Vamp
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MD
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| 2008..
2008 sounds more like it.. And by then there will be other forms of highspeed available to most people (fiber, high speed cable, faster wireless, etc).
I doubt the service would be very reliable, I would only get such a thing if it was high bandwidth symmetrical line, like 20/20 or so.
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Maxo
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join:2002-11-04
Tallahassee, FL
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| It's a shame
I do wish that BPL didn't have the interference problem and was a viable third choice of broadband. I doubt anything will ever become of BPL, but hopefully someone will come up with something. I think that EVDO-style wireless connections are the real future in the long run. |
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pende_tim
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join:2004-01-04
Andover, NJ
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 ·ViaTalk
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| Same with WiMAx
I seem to recall reading about 3 years ago that WiMax was the soon to be killer delivery method for HSI in rural areas where DSL and Cable were not available.
Well 3 years later....
New all technologies face 3 major hurdles:
Technology development is always at least 3x more expensive and takes at least twice as long as planned.
Financing: some investors will have to foot the bill for the development and roll out and he will want a decent payback based on risk.
Customers: Once you have the technology and financing, you actually need someone who will pay you for the new super-wiz-bang technology. You need more than the early adopters who will try anything, you need many long term customers that will pay back the people who financed the technology.
PBL is in this category I am afraid. The technology is not done, investors are nervous and since it is not really ready, customers are few.
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halfband
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join:2002-06-01
Huntsville, AL
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Re: It's a shame
BPL is wonderful on paper, but there are too many technical issues. The progress made in high speed wireless communications will take what little market made financial sense for BPL. It may yet stake out a market in older high rise buildings that are just too difficult to run fiber, but as a mainstream broadband technology it is dead.
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roady1
join:2003-11-13
Cleveland, OH
| reply to Maxo
EVDO....
You can pretty much presume that the less effort a company has to make to supply a service, the more likey it's going to be provided.
BPL while ingenious, requires A LOT of extra pieces parts...where something like EVDO only requires that the customer purchase a card, and that a signal be pumped through the cellular towers already in existence...
EVDO will likely take it's place in the realm of "last mile" connectivity. |
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kv5e
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join:2001-12-04
Mesquite, TX
1 edit | Simply......
OINK ! |
They may be some limited SCADA implementations of BPL for the utilities' use, but as an alternative to the other offerings it doesn't hold water.
The FCC tried to put lipstick on the pig, but nobody's ki$$ing ! |
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N3OGH
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join:2003-11-11
Philly burbs | reply to Vamp
Re: 2008..
2008 "A broadband odyssey"
I'm sorry Dave, but I'm afraid I can't do BPL... |
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Mrq5
The Fab Four
join:1999-08-21
Warren, MI
| You snooze you loose!
BPL just waited too long entering the mainstream markets. At this point they will need a far superior product for peeps to go thru the hassle of swapping out ISP's. When you add that most are getting some sort of bundled discount, like others here, I dont see BPL as having a bright future. |
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
·Comcast
| it's like the iraq war
if things aren't panning out the way you would like, just say 6-8 months are needed to turn things around.
when 6-8 months are up, just repeat the previous mantra.
rinse and repeat; before you know it, years will have passed with absolutely no progress whatsoever, but with BPL still considered a viable alternative.
they can probably keep this up until everybody in the U.S. has fiber, at which point they may or may not give up. |
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Endgame
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USA
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| reply to kv5e
Re: Simply......
PLB (Power Lines over Broadband) is a better idea and I think I'll be heading over to the good ol' patent office swimming hole right now. Broadband over Piggy Lips is all yours though! 
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hyzmarca
@Level3.net
| reply to Maxo
Re: It's a shame
Dealing with interference issues is incredibly easy and won't cost much money at all. Anyone can do it, in fact. No technical skills are required.
Simply go to those people who are complaining about interference, look them straight in the eyes, and say "[vulgar synonym for 'have sexual intercourse with'] yourself".
Simple, easy, even politicians can do it if they try.
BPL is perfectly viable. It just makes some other services inviable sometimes. Its only a problem to the people who care about those services and people who care about those services are a very small minority. |
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BPL 200 Mbps
join:2006-11-05
Toms River, NJ
| reply to N3OGH
Re: 2008.. or 2007 for DUKE ENERGY BPL !!!
BPL DEPLOYMENT MAP shows 7 Commercial BPL rollouts and 38 ongoing trials !!! »www.uplc.utc.org/file_depot/0-10···2_12.pdf
Duke Energy in North Carolina looks like serious of getting the number 8 spot for wide area rollout ...imho
re: »xrl.us/tkmk
Ambient Corp. is currently posting job vacancies in North Carolina for their BPL deployment... re: »www.ambientcorp.com/pages/careers.htm
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ctceo
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| BPL
This technology is suffering the same fate that other technologies have in the past. All because a group of someones found a problem with the technology, and incessantly whine until it has a bad name and nobody wants to pick it up for fear of the bad publicity.
It is a VERY viable solution if implemented properly with the correct technological advancements in appropriately populated areas.
Is it BPL's fault that for so long other companies and their technologies have held an "opoly" over this industry for so many years? NO. Now that a new technology has come along that threatens their pocketbooks, they are willing to stoop to whatever level it takes to prevent it from growing roots, and taking profits from the conglomerates in the long run.
A recent private survey done in north central Indiana asked Utility Companies, and select subscribers to their services if they would be willing to participate in a rollout test. Approximately 79% said they would be willing. When Utility companies were asked why they don't. The most common response was that they had heard a lot of negative (albeit false) reports that the technology was fundamentally flawed. |
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halfband
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Huntsville, AL
| said by ctceo  :It is a VERY viable solution if implemented properly with the correct technological advancements in appropriately populated areas. If it was economically viable it would have happened already. The amps/repeaters and conditioning of the lines cost too much in rural low density areas. City areas have DSL and Cable. Regardless of the technical issues it is a limited solution with a limited market.
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