TKJunkMail
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Avalon, NJ
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1 edit |  And that is why I use Gmail for my main email addr
He sent messages from other accounts to his Earthlink address, to his aliased Blackberry address, and to his Gmail account. For every 10 messages sent, 1-2 arrived in his Earthlink mailbox, 1-2 (not necessarily the SAME 1-2) on his Blackberry, and all 10 arrived with Gmail. Depending on ISP, email is usually hit and miss at best. But Earthlink's results are truly abominable.
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rob2006
join:2006-11-07
Austell, GA | earthlink sucks |
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newview
Ex .. Ex .. Exactly
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join:2001-10-01
Parsonsburg, MD | Zombies?
I'd be curious to see a correlation between the number of zombies on the network and delivery rates. My unscientific guess would be high numbers of zombies would mean high numbers of failures due to DNSBL usage. |
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maartena
Stacked.
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join:2002-05-10
Orange, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
| And thats one reason I have my own domain.
I got fed up with provider e-mail services a long, long time ago. I registered my own domain, added hosting to the mix, which has gotten me a very reliable e-mail and enough storage space online. 5 Gb to be exact, which I can access using FTP. Very handy for a private software collection. 
A few reasons why I switched to my own domain:
- I got sick and tired of having to tell everyone my new e-mail address after a move... OR after my ISP decided to sell out and the new company forced their e-mail address on me.
- I got sick and tired of the limited storage e-mail providers offer. For instance, TWC/RoadRunner still offers only 10 Mb per e-mail account.
- I got sick and tired of the webhosting "features" of my ISP which usually came down to 10 Mb homepage space and basically no other features besided placing HTML files.
- And the biggest reason was actually that my ISP was getting to be unreliable. Especially their SMTP server did not always sent what I was sending.
I pay $9,95 a month for my services and I am happy with them. Its worth it to me. Others may have enough with GMail or Yahoo Mail which offer quite ample storage as well.
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knightmb
Everybody Lies
join:2003-12-01
Franklin, TN
 ·AT&T DSL Service
| Yahoo is just as bad
I run e-mail services for a lot of companies. So many messages to yahoo e-mail accounts always error out with the "service is temporarily unavailable" Good thing the e-mail server does plenty of retries, but it makes it take hours for a simple e-mail message to be delivered when yahoo's e-mail servers get overloaded. |
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HappyBunny
Hi. Cram It.
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join:2001-06-23
Long Beach, CA
·Charter Pipeline
| This also applies to Charter
I have had Charter Pipeline for five years--their email is absolutely unreliable and always has been. The servers are down very often--and they only give 5MB per address. Not even close to being enough--I am a graphic designer and clients sometimes send me photos and art for their projects and my mailbox would be full much too quickly.
It sucks, but I for years I have paid extra for email from another ISP--unfortunately they broke down for several days this summer and I just went with GMail. |
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Techman21
join:2005-04-14
Richmond, VA
| Meh this known
Bah. If you actually read the article this guy spits out a paragraph or two about e-mail then goes straight into some spiel about megapath and Bell South who he terms "The Devil".
The cause of the issue isn't necessarily the fault of the ISPs; in some cases it is. But the majority of the issue is the lack of coming together to root out the annoying spammers who cause the issue of slamming the mail servers in the first place. Then you have morons who click on everything and allow everyone to e-mail them. Putting more strain on the mail server for other customers.
We recently upgraded the mail software at my job and regardless of how much spam we are able to stop now we still get complaints that spam comes thru. Well no duh genius. There isn't an e-mail address on this planet that is impervious to getting spam. Its just near impossible. Even setting the account up to only receive mail from trusted senders. That test now no longer works thanks to morons who let worms and viruses nest on their machines and fail to clean them up.
It is widely known in the IT industry that the likes of AOL, Hotmail, et al. like to let some mail (randomly it appears) to be sucked into a black whole never to be seen. Nor are there any notifications on what happens to mail. At the same time keep in mind the protocols and software being used here. Obviously there is a large flaw somewhere within the system if this is consistently happening all over. Unless the bounce messages have been turned off by the offending ISP. This may be done in order to stop spamming of bounced messages to forged e-mail addresses. Although if SPF was used more widely it would/should be less of a problem (spoofs that is). But see MS and AOL don't like playing nice so MS comes up with their own convoluted solution and AOL just doesn't plain care enough. No wonder AOL is heading towards a free strategy. |
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PolarBear
The bear formerly known as aaron8301
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join:2005-01-03 | G-ingle mail!
Gmail Rocks, Gmail Rocks, Gmail saves the day!
Oh how nice it is to get your email right away!
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Techman21
join:2005-04-14
Richmond, VA
| LOL. Yes, Gmail is pretty good. The catch rate is incredible. My guess is that it uses some sort of trusted senders list.
Perhaps when you send out e-mail from Gmail it adds that particular address to a trusted users list which then is able to bypass much of their filtering. The filtering they do must be immense, especially with how much space we are given on there.
Most of the e-mail going into the address I have is spam. Although I've signed up for so much on the net using that particular address.
Heck, I never even used my earthlink account due to their filtering process. When I first got my address it was maybe a year after they started their trusted senders white list deal. Where you had to insert the address into your book in order to recieve mail from that person/company. Regardless though I still receive weekly reports of what is in my box. |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
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join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| reply to rob2006
Re: And that is why I use Gmail for my main email addr
said by rob2006  :earthlink sucks Don't you mean "Earthstink"?
Gmail and hotmail are far more reliable than my isp's mail(cox, they sell addresses to doubleclick so i never bothered with cox's email)
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GhostDoggy
join:2005-05-11
Duluth, GA
| ISP should evolve to ICP
Internet Service Providers need to evolve into something more along the lines of an Internet Connection Provider. By removing the service-aspects, the can greatly simplify their network.
This isn't to say that an ISP's (ahem, ICP's) parent company should offer 'services', but that a separation for the benefit of moving headaches to someone else might be better.
Newsgroups, email, personal web space, etc., etc., etc. need to evolve to a point that the intelligent on the Internet can run their own services, and the not-so-intelligent can run AOL.  |
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blashphemy
@comcast.net
| Gmail
Consider the following:
1) ISPs generally have very unreliable email, very little space, and have been around forever
2) Gmail is rock-solid reliable, gives you 2.7 GB of storage and counting, has thrid party programs that allows you to use all that extra storage for personal file hosting and backup, has free POP3 access (considering its a webmail provider), gives you Google Talk right in the window automatically, is free, AND is still in fuzzing beta!!!
Does that make any sense to you? |
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kyramilan
join:2006-11-26
Pensacola, FL
| reply to PolarBear
Re: G-ingle mail!
Gmail is intuitive. If you do get spam, you mark it as spam, Gmail looks at it, if it is, the whole Gmail system blocks it. The more spam reports the better Gmail gets.
Gmail will only get better. It automatically, from my understanding, cleans email for viruses, etc. |
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NY Tel
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join:2004-04-09
Smithtown, NY
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| reply to maartena
Re: And thats one reason I have my own domain.
said by maartena :I got fed up with provider e-mail services a long, long time ago. I registered my own domain, I pay $9,95 a month for my services and I am happy with them. Its worth it to me. Others may have enough with GMail or Yahoo Mail which offer quite ample storage as well. Who do you use to host everything? |
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jazzy_
join:2004-01-27
Charleston, SC
| reply to kyramilan
Re: G-ingle mail!
I've been using Gmail for over two years now and have only received two spam messages in my actual inbox that I can remember. All the rest have been filtered to the spam box. I have always received my messages to the best of my knowledge. I've heard some of the most ridiculous excuses for not using Gmail, I just shake my head and move on. |
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insomniac84
join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN | Suprising!
I didn't know anyone actually used email from their ISP. Weird. |
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Doctor Olds
I Need A Remedy For What's Ailing Me.
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join:2001-04-19
1970 442 W30
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| Too bad the person who reported this did NOT read the story
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The two groups affected are those who get their mail with an Earthlink-hosted domain and those with aliased e-mail addresses like my friend's Blackberry.
That fully explains the two groups and that is not the ISP regular customers being affected.
People using "EL Hosted Domains" and their "Alias features"
My email as a ADSL customer has been 100% complete.
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Doctor Olds
I Need A Remedy For What's Ailing Me.
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1970 442 W30
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| reply to rob2006
Re: And that is why I use Gmail for my main email addr
said by rob2006 :earthlink sucks Really? Looks like your ISP is worse...
»Comcast is really bad
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Doctor Olds
I Need A Remedy For What's Ailing Me.
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| reply to TKJunkMail
said by TKJunkMail :He sent messages from other accounts to his Earthlink address, to his aliased Blackberry address, and to his Gmail account. For every 10 messages sent, 1-2 arrived in his Earthlink mailbox, 1-2 (not necessarily the SAME 1-2) on his Blackberry, and all 10 arrived with Gmail. Depending on ISP, email is usually hit and miss at best. But Earthlink's results are truly abominable. You should read the two groups affected. It is not Earthlink the ISP customers being affected as the article here severely misleads.
It is clearly listed as two groups. Hosting Accounts and people using the Alias features that are included with the Hosting. It is not the ISP customers.
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ThegImp
@swbell.net | reply to Doctor Olds
Re: Too bad the person who reported this did NOT read the story
That's why I got a Cobalt Qube and my own domain name and run my own email server. I don't have to worry about quota's or lost email then |
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