MysticGogeta
The Robot Devil
Premium
join:2005-03-14
League City, TX
clubs: |  Now only IF they can get DSL
That is the real trouble  |
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SoonerorLAter
@usfca.edu | 25mbits is not enough for internet, tv, phone
... I want my HDTV and not some compressed version |
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Zorglub
join:2000-11-18
Fremont, CA | At least now, I know for a fact that I don't need a 1080p TV, 720p will suffice since ATT will never have the bandwidth to provide more than that. |
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Rob
In Deo speramus, God Bless the USA
Premium
join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL
 ·Comcast
| Here's the problem..
quote:
They company has said they plan on eventually offering customers two live HD streams, 2 SD streams, 6Mbps VDSL + overhead within that 25Mbps
Customers don't want 6meg VDSL, they want 60meg Internet. VDSL just cannot provide what FTTH can.
Lack of AT&T's ambition to run FTTH now will result in AT&T being exactly where they are today in 10-15 years (or less). Outdated and absoluete. These mega companies are what is keeping the U.S. low in the list of broadband advancement.
Verizon has the right idea.
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Camelot One
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-21
Sarasota, FL
clubs:
| reply to Zorglub
Re: 25mbits is not enough for internet, tv, phone
Yeah but there is HDTV, and then there is HDTV. DirecTV is currently advertising/selling "HDTV", but its highly compressed 1280x720p or 1280x1080i depending on the source channel. (no, that isn't just a typo)
Neither of which look as good as their OTA counterparts.
So can AT&T deliver HDTV plus everything else over 25Mbps, sure. Will it look as good as an OTA HDTV broadcast....very doubtful.
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N3OGH
Bear patrol must be working like a charm
Premium
join:2003-11-11
Philly burbs
 ·Verizon FIOS
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to Zorglub
AT&T restates that FTTH is unnecessary they intend to push a dying technology so the CEO can keep the bottom line fat to plump his pension..
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raye
Premium
join:2000-08-14
Orange, CA | pleased with the bandwidth that we're seeing over copper
But your customers will not be. Thus cable should win out in areas served by AT&T. |
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Turbocpe
Premium
join:2001-12-22
IA
1 edit | They [sic] company
quote:
They company
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moby866
Premium
join:2000-10-07
Above you | But..
They kind of forget to mention that in eastern Jackson county, MO they sorta ran fiber out to houses at a few developments. |
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elefant_att
@verizon.net | dont' forget
Let's remember delayed deployment well into 201X-202X season before it gets to middle america! |
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hayabusa3303
Over 200 mph
Premium
join:2005-06-29
clubs:
 ·QuantumVoice
·AT&T Southeast
·RoadRunner Cable
1 edit | yep
What ever the AT&t execs are smoking must be damn good.
25mbps WTF? Cable on dossis 1.1 can do that and not mess with your bandwidth Cable will win this round AGAIN. In fios country FIOS beats cable hands down. Sounds like AT&T is getting buddy,buddy with cable companies some how.
VZ has the right idea they have even two times the amount of BW vs. AT&T.
AT&t needs to get with the program. One more reason America gets left behind and 3rd world countries have FIBER. |
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JamesPC
join:2005-10-12
Orange, CA | reply to N3OGH
Re: 25mbits is not enough for internet, tv, phone
So they dont have to go more into the RED like "Verizon" |
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olegy
join:2003-06-02
San Diego, CA | 25mpbs internet
I want 25mpbs internet, and 0 mbps IPTV.
If it will be offered as a bundle, I'll pass on everything.
Having invested a lot of money into Dish HDTV DVR equipment, I have zero desire to pay ~$80 per month for the already outdated 6/1 service. |
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RJ44
join:2001-10-19
Nashville, TN | Read the quote
Everyone saw the 25M reference but didn't anyone notice this?
"On average, at this point, we're producing about 25 megabits (per second). But in many many locations, we're producing substantially more than that." |
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N3OGH
Bear patrol must be working like a charm
Premium
join:2003-11-11
Philly burbs
·Verizon FIOS
·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to JamesPC
Re: 25mbits is not enough for internet, tv, phone
said by JamesPC  :So they dont have to go more into the RED like "Verizon" Gotta spend money to make money. When AT&T is still paying the high cost of maintaining a rickety old copper plant, with no chance of matching the abilities of fiber, Verizon will be selling TV, Internet, and Phone over the most advanced network in the country.
When people living in AT&T territory get wind en mass of what fiber is capable of, they'll demand it.
Either way the day is coming when AT&T is going to HAVE to invest in FTTH. They're just trying to prolong the inevitable.
This is a classic case of good money chasing bad. Investing in all that "lightspeed" gear is gonna make things even more expensive, since it'll all be totally obsolete in 5 years...
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bmn
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Premium,ExMod 2003-06
join:2001-03-15
hiatus
1 edit | The way they keep saying this over and over again...
Reminds me of a little kid sticking his/her fingers in their ears and standing there going "Nyeh! Nyeh! Nyeh! Nyeh!" and trying to ignore the reality of the world.
The idea that they aren't going to have to go FTTH just flies into the face of what the experts and people in the industry who have a clue have said for years.
ATT and the other ILECs who seem to be avoiding the FTTH bus and who keep trying to use a deadend technology clearly need to hire some people who have a clue about the technology side of their business.
We aren't dealing with butt sets, rotary dial phones and relay driven phone switching any more... 
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
Here | reply to Zorglub
Re: 25mbits is not enough for internet, tv, phone
No one broadcasts in 1080p |
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bmn
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Premium,ExMod 2003-06
join:2001-03-15
hiatus | reply to RJ44
Re: Read the quote
Yeah, BUT...
Its follow by: Those locations are homes that are substantially closer to the CO.
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RJ44
join:2001-10-19
Nashville, TN
| said by bmn :Yeah, BUT... Its follow by: Those locations are homes that are substantially closer to the CO. Which was added by the editors of DSLR, not the AT&T spokesman. But yeah, it's DSL, the closer the better. |
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ztmike
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join:2001-08-02
Michigan City, IN | DSL speed?
If 25Mbps is for the HD, Are they gonna even have enough speed for the interent? Espically the ones that dont live close to the CO?  |
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