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1 edit | Wow, how hard is that to understand??? .002 dollars per kilobyte equals two tenths of a dollar, or $.20 (twenty cent) per kilobyte, instead of two tenths of a cent. That just sucks that the manager couldn't understand the issue or complaint. Correct me if I'm wrong, but thats what I get. -- SIPPhone/Gizmo # 17476200648 / PIMPNET Chatline / Ran by Asterisk & Slackware 10.1. | |
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 |  Denjin join:2001-01-18 Schaumburg, IL | Re: Wow, how hard is that to understand??? If a dollar is 100 cents, how is .002 dollars .20? I read it as 2/10 of a cent. -- Ningen wa, ningen da. | |
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 |  |  | | said by Denjin:If a dollar is 100 cents, how is .002 dollars .20? I read it as 2/10 of a cent. You are just as bad as the manager. .002 dollars is equal to .20 cents. | |
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 |  |  |  | | Re: Wow, how hard is that to understand??? said by compton:said by Denjin:If a dollar is 100 cents, how is .002 dollars .20? I read it as 2/10 of a cent. You are just as bad as the manager. .002 dollars is equal to .20 cents. I re-read your post and realized you were stating that .002 dollars = 2/10 of a cent, or .20 cent. | |
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 |  |  |  | | No. .002 dollars = 2 cents, it's NOT 2/10th of a cent, and it's NOT 20 cents. It's 2 cents | |
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 |  |  |  |  | | Re: Wow, how hard is that to understand??? wow, alot of bad math, verizon isnt the only one...
$.01 = 1 cent $.002 = .2 cents | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  N3OGHYo Soy Col. "Bat" GuanoPremium join:2003-11-11 Philly burbs kudos:1 | Re: Wow, how hard is that to understand??? said by VariableARK:wow, alot of bad math, verizon isnt the only one... $.01 = 1 cent $.002 = .2 cents A lot of bad grammar, too.
"alot" is not a word!
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  DrModemPremium join:2006-10-19 USA kudos:1 1 edit | Re: Wow, how hard is that to understand??? You people are all crazy.
This is TWO CENTS: $0.02
This is TWO TENTHS OF A CENT or TWO THOUSANDTHS OF A DOLLAR: $0.002
This is TWENTY CENTS: $0.20
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 |  |  |  |  |  Warez_ZealotRural land of the rising sun join:2006-04-19 japan 2 edits | said by manfmmd:said by DrewCapu:said by AJICQ499087:Seem like lot of people in this Forum don't even know how to do simple math. We're more used to converting things like inches to feet to yards. All this moving decimal stuff, apparently, is very confusing. There goes my hope for the US to one day convert to the metric system!?! Better yet, 1/10 th millidollars. Seriously, I get a kick when I see Americans mixing the metric and imperial system together.
They do that crap on Myth Busters all the time, and I don't know how they manage to calculate anything right.. lol
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  delenn13De gustibus nil disputandumPremium,MVM join:2006-03-02 Ridgeway, ON | Re: Wow, how hard is that to understand??? Ok I have heard.."It's not Rocket Science 101."
Or "It's not Brain Surgery."
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  DrewCapuGiant Diehard join:2001-12-19 California | Re: Wow, how hard is that to understand??? Americans that can't do math and Canadians with no humor.
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  Warez_ZealotRural land of the rising sun join:2006-04-19 japan | said by delenn13:Ok I have heard.."It's not Rocket Science 101." Or "It's not Brain Surgery." Do they perform Actual Surgery on Rockets now? Maybe I am just too old????? haha, I thought it was a good touch.  Maybe something Pinky would say, NARF! -- I'm a disgrace to my race. | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | | said by delenn13:Ok I have heard.."It's not Rocket Science 101." Or "It's not Brain Surgery." Do they perform Actual Surgery on Rockets now? Maybe I am just too old????? Only on the rocket's brains.  | |
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 |  |  |  |  | | said by karlmarx:No. .002 dollars = 2 cents, it's NOT 2/10th of a cent, and it's NOT 20 cents. It's 2 cents erm
$.02 is 2 cents $.002 is .2 cents | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  ShamayimI already have a Messiah.Premium join:2002-09-23 | Re: Wow, how hard is that to understand??? said by Tikker_LoS:said by karlmarx:No. .002 dollars = 2 cents, it's NOT 2/10th of a cent, and it's NOT 20 cents. It's 2 cents erm $.02 is 2 cents $.002 is .2 cents It's not 'erm,' it's "um." -- "tick...tick...tick..." »www.jtf.org/ | |
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 |  |  |  |  joakoPremium join:2000-09-07 /dev/null kudos:5 Reviews:
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| said by karlmarx:No. .002 dollars = 2 cents, it's NOT 2/10th of a cent, and it's NOT 20 cents. It's 2 cents 1.000 dollars = 100 cents 0.100 dollars = 10 cents 0.010 dollars = 1 cent 0.001 dollars = .1 cent
2.000 dollars = 200 cents 0.200 dollars = 20 cents 0.020 dollars = 2 cents 0.002 dollars = .2 cents -- Am Heimcomputer sitz' ich hier, und programmier' die Zukunft mir | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  SteveI know your IP addressConsultant join:2001-03-10 Yorba Linda, CA kudos:5 | Re: Wow, how hard is that to understand??? Couldn't this mistake be more easily be explained by "We were using Canadian money and got confused" ? | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium join:2002-05-02 Mount Airy, MD | Re: Wow, how hard is that to understand??? said by Steve:Couldn't this mistake be more easily be explained by "We were using Canadian money and got confused" ? Yea let's blame Canada!  -- Only SHATNER is Kirk. | |
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 |  |  |  |  calvoiper join:2003-03-31 Belvedere Tiburon, CA | said by karlmarx:No. .002 dollars = 2 cents, it's NOT 2/10th of a cent, and it's NOT 20 cents. It's 2 cents ...and people wonder why Marxist economics lead inexorably to poverty....
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said by calvoiper:said by karlmarx:No. .002 dollars = 2 cents, it's NOT 2/10th of a cent, and it's NOT 20 cents. It's 2 cents ...and people wonder why Marxist economics lead inexorably to poverty.... calvoiper  -- Its the Democrats fault. In fact it is the Speaker of House Polosi fault. Everything is the Democrats fault. Everything. Just like Everything was the Republicans Fault when they were in power. | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  | | Re: Wow, how hard is that to understand??? .002 = 2 thousands of a Dollar.=2/1000 .02 = 1 hundred of a Dollar. = 2/100 .20 = 1 tenth of a Dollar. = 2/10
2/1000 =.002 | |
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| Re: Wow, how hard is that to understand??? said by manfmmd:Actually... At $.002 (two thousandths of a dollar) you would need 100 units to equal $.20, 2/10 of a dollar, or 20 cents. At .002 cents (two thousandths of a cent) you would need 10,000 units to equal $.20, 2/10 of a dollar, or 20 cents. (or 50,000 to equal 100 cents or 1.00 dollar) .2 = 2 tenths .02 = 2 hundredths .002 = 2 thousandths Be careful not to mix up your units of measure when calculating. I am glad you went depth with it, because when the first "!YOU'RE WRONG!" post came in, I thought "Dude, welcome to 5th and 6th grade, take a seat, lets learn."  -- SIPPhone/Gizmo # 17476200648 / PIMPNET Chatline / Ran by Asterisk & Slackware 10.1. | |
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 |  |  |  |  dadkinsCan you do Blu?Premium,MVM join:2003-09-26 Hercules, CA kudos:18 | OMG! I am SO glad SOMEONE realized it was thousandths! | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  | | Re: Wow, how hard is that to understand??? I'm almost devastated at how many people can't figure this out.
0.002 cents = 0.00002 dollars 0.002 dollars = 0.2 cents -- Argue opinions using facts. Not facts using opinions. | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  calvoiper join:2003-03-31 Belvedere Tiburon, CA | Re: Wow, how hard is that to understand??? Heck, I'm not even surprised. Remember, these are the graduates who have had "cultural awareness" issues pumped into their heads instead of math and science.
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 |  1 edit | If the rate was $0.002 per KB, then the manager should have quoted him two tenths of a cent per KB. Not, 0.002 cents per KB. | |
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 |  TsumePremium join:2004-02-23 Johnson City, TN Reviews:
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| Remove the dollar sign before the .20 and change the "two tenths of a dollar" to "two tenths of a cent" and the statement becomes true.
.002 dollars is just that, .002 dollars.
.002 dollars is 00.2 cents (the decimal moves two places because a cent is 100th of a dollar.)
$0.0002 = .02¢ $0.002 = .2¢ $0.02 = 2¢ $0.20 = 20¢ $2.00 = 200¢
$ = dollar ¢ = cent
Let's use the right symbols. | |
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 |  |  |  manfmmdPremium join:2003-01-14 Earth, TX Reviews:
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| Re: Wow, how hard is that to understand??? said by ninjatutle:said by Tsume:$0.0002 = .02¢ $0.002 = .2¢ $0.02 = 2¢ $0.20 = 20¢ $2.00 = 200¢ $0.0002 = .01¢ $0.002 = .01¢ $0.02 = 2¢ $0.20 = 20¢ $2.00 = 200¢ In psychical currency, you can't give someone $.0002 so you have to round it up and give them a penny. How do you get 2 cents from $.0002 or $.002? You are right in physical currency.
He didn't. He got .2¢ "point two cents" or "2 tenths of 1.0¢" Around and around we go...  -- huh? | AIM | Speaker Pelosi?!?...OH THE HUMANITY! | |
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 |  JohnnyPremium join:2001-06-27 Atlanta, GA kudos:1 | Correct me if I'm wrong, but thats what I get.
LOL. You're wrong. -- I ignore all anon posts. | |
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 |  jkj860The Final Frontier join:2002-01-10 Valparaiso, IN | This ain't roket science, it's brain surgery! Just my 2 cents. | |
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 |  |  cdruGo ColtsPremium,MVM join:2003-05-14 Fort Wayne, IN kudos:5 | Re: Wow, how hard is that to understand??? Shouldn't that be your .002 cents? -- Quis custodiet custodes ipsos? | |
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| Re: Wow, how hard is that to understand??? said by cdru:Shouldn't that be your .002 cents? I stand corrected. Maybe they meant bits. How much is a bit? Can somebody do that math? How many bits in a dollar? Does a dollar equal a mega-bit?  -- I know you think you understand what you thought I said, but I am not sure you realize what you heard is not what I meant. Nixon | |
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 | | Yep I just got a PS3. Woo Hoo!! | |
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 |  MaxoYour tax dollars at work.Premium,VIP join:2002-11-04 Tallahassee, FL | Re: Yep I didn't get enough sleep last night. | |
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 |  | | said by 93468698:I just got a PS3. Woo Hoo!! I'm sorry. | |
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 |  click_310Eat my shorts join:2002-12-06 Savannah, GA | I missed my flight earlier
just adding to the slew of bad math and irrelevant comments  -- (757) 644-3863 | |
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 | | what I really want to know is... what happen to the elementry-school-drop-out/manager that was on the phone?  | |
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 |  BF69Premium join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN | Re: what I really want to know is... said by lettcco:what happen to the elementry-school-drop-out/manager that was on the phone? Hopefully the sent him back to 5th grade. I listen to that recording and they guy was a fricken idiot. He CLEARLY says that it's .002 CENTS then when does that math he gives the amount in DOLLARS. Even people that don't know math know enough that if you start with CENTS the answer is going to be in CENTS. That guys logic is like saying Johnny has 3 apples and Jane has 4 apples so together they have 7 bananas. | |
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 |  |  | | Re: what I really want to know is... said by BF69:. That guys logic is like saying Johnny has 3 apples and Jane has 4 apples so together they have 7 bananas. Fruit alchemy. | |
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 MaxoYour tax dollars at work.Premium,VIP join:2002-11-04 Tallahassee, FL | Here's the letter For those too lazy to click on the link.
said by letter :
Dear George Vaccaro,
Thank you for your reply. Again, I apologize for the miscommunications regarding this issue and for your frustration and inconvenience as a result.
In review of your account a previous representative has credited for the data charges in question for $71.79. You may take this amount off of your current amount due. In the future please keep in mind that it is .002 dollars per KB while in Canada.
It has been a pleasure assisting you today, and we appreciate your business. Have a wonderful week!
Sincerely,
Michelle Verizon Wireless Customer Service
"We never stop working for you!"
If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately by replying to this e-mail and deleting it and all copies and backups thereof. If you are the intended recipient and are a Verizon Wireless customer, this response is subject to the terms of your Customer Agreement. -- "Padre, nobody said war was fun now bowl!" - Sherman T Potter
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 jjoshuaPremium join:2001-06-01 Scotch Plains, NJ kudos:1 | So they refund... And then they change the terms.
It has been a pleasure assisting you today, and we appreciate your business. Have a wonderful week!
Translation: FU for using Verizon. | |
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 |  | | Re: So they refund... said by jjoshua:And then they change the terms. It has been a pleasure assisting you today, and we appreciate your business. Have a wonderful week!Translation: FU for using Verizon. a typo/training error was corrected
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 |  |  peter_mPremium join:2005-07-13 Canada, QC | Re: So they refund... What would have been earth shattering is a simple apology | |
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| Re: So they refund... said by letter : Thank you for your reply. Again, I apologize for the miscommunications regarding this issue and for your frustration and inconvenience as a result.
Like this apology? -- support the Hunley | |
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 |  |  |  |  peter_mPremium join:2005-07-13 Canada, QC | Re: So they refund... Not exactly like this one, no. Miscommunication is not the right word for "our staff can't do math" or "don't understand basic decimals"... see the difference? | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  PathfinderDazed ConfusedPremium join:2000-03-26 Mount Vernon, NY | Re: So they refund... No, I see no difference. They apologized and refunded his money. Case closed. If you find the company that will kiss your ass let me know. -- support the Hunley | |
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 |  click_310Eat my shorts join:2002-12-06 Savannah, GA | Re: No Admission of Being Wrong said by r81984:\ Why can't anyone admit mistakes anymore? Vanity ? -- (757) 644-3863 | |
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 |  | | said by r81984:In the response, Verizon does not admit to making a mistake even though there is voice recording of their mistake. They just say the correct rate is .002 dollars. Why can't anyone admit mistakes anymore? Because their lawyers tell them not to...  -- Dawn,n,The time when men of reason go to bed. (Ambrose Bierce.) | |
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 | | It's like... ...the fast food places that charge .99 cents for something, but they really mean .99 dollars. Most people don't even know it's wrong. Just like the Verizon managers. | |
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 SLDPremium join:2002-04-17 San Francisco, CA | Increasing my post total WTF??? | |
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 bigjimc join:2003-04-21 Middleboro, MA | Can you hear me now? Good!!!! | |
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 |  | | Re: Can you hear me now? Ok why don't they just say .2 cents a kilobyte or .20 cents or whatever the hell it is can we use whole numbers here? | |
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 bohn join:2006-05-30 Scarborough, ON | Verizon Admits Math Error, Gives Refund They should have warned him in the first place when he went up to canada. Verizon is partly at fault... of course canada is 100 percent at fault for running a socialist or communist nation. Take your pick. Monopolies are communism. | |
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 |  r81984Fair and BalancedPremium join:2001-11-14 Katy, TX | Re: Verizon Admits Math Error, Gives Refund They did, he called them before he went to Canada and they said it was .002 cents per kilobyte. -- »www.ryanoneill.us | |
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 |  | | said by bohn: of course canada is 100 percent at fault for running a socialist or communist nation. Take your pick. Monopolies are communism. . . .
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 | | Scammer Doesn't anyone else see that this guy is a scammer?
He knew very well what the charges were going to be before he departed.
That or he is the biggest retard out there. There was a story a few years back where a lady took a large stack of $100 or $1000 off coupon from a newspaper ad to a dealership. She wanted to buy the car using their coupon.
I thought we were above the likes of Nigeria, Russia and China. Apparently, we have some ways to go still. | |
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 |  | | Re: Scammer said by ninjatutle:Doesn't anyone else see that this guy is a scammer? He knew very well what the charges were going to be before he departed.
When you are dealing with such a small rate (as in fractions of a cent), it's not at all unreasonable to think that .002 cents means exactly that: 2/1000 of 1 cent. If a business isn't responsible or intelligent enough to use proper units of measurement in their advertisement, then that's their fault. It isn't the burden of the customer to figure out what they meant. quote: That or he is the biggest retard out there.
Are you sure you aren't the genius lady that works for Verizon? The one that claimed she had a "difference of opinion" about a trivial arithmetic problem that most 2nd graders should be able to solve? quote: There was a story a few years back where a lady took a large stack of $100 or $1000 off coupon from a newspaper ad to a dealership. She wanted to buy the car using their coupon.
Absolutely horrible analogy. Verizon had already charged this guy and absolutely refused to give him the rate they advertised. The lady was only trying to purchase the car. The only way your analogy makes sense is if Verizon notices their mistake up front and refuses to give the guy the .002 cents/kilobyte rate *before* he starts using their services. if that were the case, this would be a non-issue. That is not the case. quote: I thought we were above the likes of Nigeria, Russia and China. Apparently, we have some ways to go still.
Yea, because the scammer is the guy who expects a company to honor what they state as their rate, and not the company who refuses to honor the rate they stated on about three difference occasions. What planet are you from, exactly? | |
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 furloniumComputer Over? Virus equals Very Yes? join:2002-05-08 Bethlehem, PA | author of XKCD comics check to Verizon ..his response to the whole math-fockup. | |
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 |  JammerMan79Premium,VIP join:2004-05-13 Prince George, BC kudos:10 | Re: author of XKCD comics check to Verizon lmao.... good thing I wasn't on a call. | |
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 |  calvoiper join:2003-03-31 Belvedere Tiburon, CA | Aw, why did you dither the MICR numbers? I was going to send some spare Nigerian cash your way....
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 |  |  | | Re: author of XKCD comics check to Verizon They are still there- upper right corner of check (along with what looks to be an acct#) | |
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 |  |  |  | | Re: author of XKCD comics check to Verizon umm yeah the upper right hand corner of a check does not have the account number. Its the bottom of the check that has the account number...along with the router number | |
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 viperpa33sWhy Me?Premium join:2002-12-20 Bradenton, FL | Have to give him credit Have to give the guy credit, he was able a full refund. Most companies that make mistakes like that will just tell you to bad.
example: You go to an online store and they are selling a laptop for $800 that would normally go for $1,800. It's basically a typo error.
Is there any difference between verbal and typo errors? In my opinion there is no difference. If a company made a mistake then they should honor it and pick up the pieces afterwards. | |
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 |  | | Re: Have to give him credit Think of it this way, if he went to court and sued Verizon, Verizon would lose because of that tape. | |
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 RockyBBPremium join:2005-01-31 Steamboat Springs, CO | doesn't anyone know how to make the ¢ symbol? stop saying cents. say ¢!
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 |  | | Re: doesn't anyone know how to make the ¢ symbol? said by RockyBB:stop saying cents. say ¢! ALT 155 Finally, a ¢ible response... | |
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 wilbilt Pronto ResurrectedPremium join:2004-01-11 Oroville, CA 1 edit | They still don't get it.... More from CSR "Eva", to another customer on George's blog...
"The verbal information given at the store was also correct. Your original e-mail indicated you were told "$0.015 cents per kilobyte." If it was the charge you understood it to be, it would be verbally given as 0.015ths of a cent. The charges were presented and billed correctly and I am sorry, no a credits are due at this time."
$0.015 cents per kilobyte..OK...how do you pronounce that?
"it would be verbally given as 0.015ths of a cent"....WTF?
Since when do we combine fractions and decimals? It's still .015 of a DOLLAR, for crying out loud.
Can you imagine anyone saying "point zero fifteenths of a cent"? What the hell would that equate to?
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 | | fixed Wrong or not, I'd say it's a small oversight that will be corrected with a small correction to the TOS contract.
Whether or not the manger made an error interpreting the amount, he said the right thing. Can you image if HE told the user that it was wrong? Verizon would be pissed I'm sure.
The end user will get screwed as usual. (I've seen this before on my statement, but I still get a kick on 'one way' errors. My credit card says something to the effect of having 30days to tell them of an error, or else the statement is correct.... unless the error is a wrongful credit. (go figure)... | |
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 sivranBack to Opera againPremium join:2003-09-15 Arlington, TX kudos:1 | Expensive That's some pretty expensive bandwidth there. | |
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 | | still a ripoff Even at .002cents per KB it's a rip off. It doesn't cost that much for bandwidth or to distribute it to a cell phone.
I'd never use a cell carriers rate plans for data. Such a scam, and people pay it. That's the sad part. | |
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