homeshark
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Saint Petersburg, FL | I tell ya!
It's A Series Of Tubes! |
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kyramilan
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Pensacola, FL | He's an Idiot!
Maybe he should shove his tubes up his .... |
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Pirate515
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Brooklyn, NY | You beat me to it... |
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kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
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| Sen Ted "Bridge to Nowhere" Stevens "Tubes" got clogged...
... and that's a very good thing!
One can only hope this totally clueless, corrupt, rotten old fart will soon disappear from the nation's legislative body so this (since his "tubes' now international) disgrace he represents will be finally over. |
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karlmarx
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Re: I tell ya!
YES. He was trying to send an internet, and it got delayed. It's not like a truck you know. And if you don't understand those tubes can be filled and if they are filled, when you put your message in, it gets in line and it's going to be delayed by anyone that puts into that tube enormous amounts of material, enormous amounts of material.
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lesopp
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1 edit | Can Someone Explain...
How it is a victory if the bill didn't promulgate net neutrality protections where there were none to begin with? Or if the bottom line on killing the bill is to slow down the telco's video deployment?
Shouldn't the phrase be "A huge victory for real cable companies." |
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karlmarx
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Re: Sen Ted "Bridge to Nowhere" Stevens "Tubes" got clogged...
Well, the clueless SUPPORT stevens. Remember the famous quote from Retire Rich (aka TCH now).
"Debate period over; Senate now in consensus building phase
The Senate committee had months of hearings and the debate period is over. They made their decision. Further debate is wasted effort. And now they are doing what politicians also do - building Senate and public support for the decision they have already reached."
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TKJunkMail
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Re: Can Someone Explain...
said by lesopp  :How it is a victory if the bill didn't promulgate net neutrality protections were not any to begin with? Or if the bottom line on killing the bill is to slow down the telco's video deployment? Shouldn't the phrase be "A huge victory for real cable companies." All that happened was that it will be more difficult and time consuming and expensive for telcos to rollout TV competition to the cable companies, as you say. How this is a victory for anyone but the cable companies is beyond me.
The only winners here are the local extorionist pols, and the advocates of government running and regulating telecom into the ground. And there are plenty of those. Just look at the posts earlier in this thread.
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Didn't this bill for a national franchise go against the conservative viewpoint of a smaller national government?
The power needs to lie in local communities to write it's own agreements. If the agreement is too pesky the company can reserve the right to not serve that community. In which case the community should have the option to build it themselves, or for someone else to come in and do the job the way the community wants it. Or the company can bite the bullet and agree to the local franchise. Either way, we don't need National Government telling Local Government how to act outside of what is offered in the Constitution.
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Karl Bode
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Re: Can Someone Explain...
said by Resident telecom investor talking point mouthpiece :
All that happened was that it will be more difficult and time consuming and expensive for telcos to rollout TV competition to the cable companies.
Yes, that's why Verizon themselves admit that a national franchise law is unnecessary and the existing system doesn't slow them down at all.
»telephonyonline.com/home/news/ve···_092706/
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Franchising is not holding us back,” said Virginia Ruesterholz, president of Verizon Telecom. “I really don’t see that as a necessity, to have nationwide relief on that.”
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TKJunkMail
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| said by Karl Bode : Yes, that's why Verizon themselves admit that a national franchise law is unnecessary and the existing system doesn't slow them down at all. quote:
Franchising is not holding us back,” said Virginia Ruesterholz, president of Verizon Telecom. “I really don’t see that as a necessity, to have nationwide relief on that.”
Odd. And when taken in context (said at an investor conference), it makes perfect sense. She was trying to CONVINCE investors that government stupidity wouldn't jeopardize their continued investments in Verizon and that they could soldier on anyway and still make a profit.
What she didn't have to say, because investors know it well, is that the profits will come thru higher prices. The only ones being screwed are the customers who will pay higher prices because of the government's lack of foresight.
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
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said by TKJunkMail :... and the advocates of government running and regulating telecom into the ground.... so you think this current regime of almost no regulations (or at least no enforcement of regulation) is a huge success? If so, you must be ignorant or own lots of telecom stock.
you think monopoly/duopoly broadband and tv is good for consumers and the U.S.?
you think the U.S. dropping from 1st to 16th (or 21st or wherever we are now) in the world rankings is good?
all this and more has happened under the "no regulation is good regulation" FCC; broadband competition is non-existent and appears headed to stay that way for years to come. The longer it takes to get real competition, the further the U.S. falls behind the world leaders. |
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T1 Rocky
join:2002-11-15
Dallas, TX
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Is it over?
Help me out here. So is the fight over? Is that the end of it? Are the ewoks dancing?
I can't believe it hasn't gotten more attention if this is the final decision. I just looked at the yahoo telecom headlines and there is no mention of this. |
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Karl Bode
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Re: Can Someone Explain...
quote:
What she didn't have to say, because investors know it well, is that the profits will come thru higher prices. The only ones being screwed are the customers who will pay higher prices because of the government's lack of foresight.
Feigned consumer empathy is so charming.
The point is that Fios deployment has not been significantly impeded by a lack of a federal franchise. Their relatively quick Fios deployments prove it, and her comments prove it. This, combined with their success at getting statewide franchises passed, makes the federal push largely a non-issue anyway.
Anyway, I take issue with the idea of federal or statewide franchises resulting in broad deployment and competitive utopia. I think that's a BS talking point regurgitated by investors and incumbent executives. |
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TKJunkMail
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Re: Is it over?
said by T1 Rocky :Help me out here. So is the fight over? Is that the end of it? Are the ewoks dancing? I can't believe it hasn't gotten more attention if this is the final decision. I just looked at the yahoo telecom headlines and there is no mention of this. The fight about "national franchising" isn't over. It will return in the new Congress. And if people think that because Dems are now in control, that things will change, think again. The only difference will be that the telcos will now be funneling their campaign cash to the Democratic Committee Chairpersons instead of Republican Committee Chairpersons to introduce a new National Franchise law. Any who think otherwise are EXTREMELY naive.
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pnh102
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Re: Small government
said by Maxo :Didn't this bill for a national franchise go against the conservative viewpoint of a smaller national government? Yup. The Republicans have been the party of Very Big Government for the past 6 years now. Very Big Government is not what conservatism is all about and Ted Stevens is not a conservative by any measure of the word. People like him, Robert Byrd, Ted Kennedy, and other professional legislators are the reason we need congressional term limits of some form.
I agree with you that the a national franchise would be an excessive over-reach of Federal authority into what should be a state and/or local matter. I for one am glad that this bill died just on those grounds alone.
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Alpine
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Re: Can Someone Explain...
So how will more regulations encourage anything other than more "faux" competition? What's the end goal here in your opinion? Will bunches of companies just jump into the fray and be viable all of a sudden if we regulate more?
I have yet to see the pro-regulation crowd come up with an intelligent explanation for how more regulation will equal more competition. Reality has to set in at some point.
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pnh102
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Re: Sen Ted "Bridge to Nowhere" Stevens "Tubes" got clogged...
said by kamm :One can only hope this totally clueless, corrupt, rotten old fart will soon disappear from the nation's legislative body so this (since his "tubes' now international) disgrace he represents will be finally over. The only way Ted Stevens will cease to be Senator from Alaska is if he dies in office. There is no way Alaskans will ever vote him out of office.
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scrummie02
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Re: Is it over?
Chances are you won't hear the same people complain the Dems are doing it either.
Most funding usually goes to the winning party, this time it just happened to be GOP...
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scrummie02
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Re: Sen Ted "Bridge to Nowhere" Stevens "Tubes" got clogged...
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The only way Ted Stevens will cease to be Senator from Alaska is if he dies in office. There is no way Alaskans will ever vote him out of office.
People in Alaska don't care about Net Neutrality so much (generally speaking).
Besides why would they vote him out...he brings home the bacon!
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