NateCohen
join:2005-10-10
Schenectady, NY | No
Satellite broadband is awful. I guess it oould be useful for people who live in the sticks. But satellite broadband has terrible latency and is very expensive for low speeds. |
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justbits
More fiber than ATT can handle
Premium
join:2003-01-08
Chicago, IL
 ·AT&T Midwest
| Telocity...
My Telocity SDSL 784/784 line was great and cost less than ADSL at the time. It performed much better than ADSL 384/128 on the same line even (which funny enough, can handle ADSL 1.5/384 today). Then, DirecTV came along bought Telocity and subsequently ran it into the ground... eliminating broadband competition in my area. Telocity was great. DirecTV destroyed Telocity.
If DirecTV is looking to buy another broadband provider, they ought to look for a worthy one (Speakeasy?) to run into the ground to help the telcos eliminate their competition. |
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lml2000
Whazzup
join:2000-08-17
Los Angeles, CA
 ·RoadRunner Cable
| Possibilities
Have always believed that Rupe's failed attempt to successfully bid for DTV's own wireless frequency was the impetus to reevaluate his position in the DBS company.
Seems the deal with Liberty, however, was spurred more by Rupe's interest in freeing NewsCorp of Liberty's interest in the DTV parent. Rupe's getting up there & wants to be sure he (& his legacies) have sufficient control over the Newscorp empire. I think the last thing Rupe wanted to see was Malone make a play for Newscorp after he is gone to the big satellite in the sky.
Rumors are abound that Malone might try to merge DTV with DISH. I don't see this immediately happening. Rather, one possibility that might be up Malone's sleeves, is given his content, his cable background, he may be able to carve out a deal with either cable or the "new video-cable telcos" to deliver a broadband wired connection to DTV customers.
What's unique with Newscorp & Liberty is that both are primarily in the content business. Both has entered the distribution business for the purpose of ensuring distribution of their content. Now that content no longer just requires broadcast distribution, but also interactive Internet distribution, it is imperative that Newscorp/Liberty either own, or have access to, the broadband pipe. If the economics don't lend to purchase or buildout, then the only option is negotiate access, using their assets (content) as leverage.
WiMAX, IMHO, while not necessarily a dream, is essentially untest, unproven, & likely around 5 years away from ubiquitous reality. DTV cannot wait for that to happen, nor take the risk it ever will happen. So, I expect Malone, in all his craftiness, to negotiate broadband access with either cable or the telcos. JMO, & a long shot. |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ | FAP
FAP FAP FAP
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Down with satellite broad(narrow)band.
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usbbtech
join:2004-03-25
Brooklyn, NY
| There are delivery options
WiNetworks.com |
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Network Guy
join:2000-08-25
New York
 ·PHONE POWER
·Broadvox Direct
·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to justbits
Re: Telocity...
I had Bell Atlantic-rebranded Telocity 640/90 ADSL service. It was great, stable, and a good deal for the buck at the time. Service went downhill right before DirecTV bought them off, and well the rest is history.
Back then I'd say many broadband resellers failed due to uncooperative telcos and exorbitant leased line pricing. |
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Mactron
el camino Real
Premium
join:2001-12-16
CM94sv
| reply to dvd536
Re: FAP
said by justbits  : Then, DirecTV came along bought Telocity and subsequently ran it into the ground... eliminating broadband competition in my area. Telocity was great. DirecTV destroyed Telocity. Still Bitter I see. 
said by dvd536 :FAP FAP FAP - Down with satellite broad(narrow)band. The slow down and upload I could possibly live with... Hmmm maybe 
But that damn FAP would just be the deal breaker for Satellite for me. 
Maybe the third time will be the charm for Directv ?..
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If only the Verizon CSRs worked this well. |
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Alpine
Premium
join:2000-01-11
Atlanta, GA
| reply to lml2000
Re: Possibilities
said by lml2000 :Rumors are abound that Malone might try to merge DTV with DISH. I don't see this immediately happening. From what I remember, the FCC has informally said that they wouldn't be able to merge since they directly compete (unlike AT&T/BellSouth, for example) and are the only two major providers of satellite.
I've got DTV and really like it for the most part, but Dish's HD w/ DVR offerings are better and cheaper (at least for the hardware.) I don't have HDTV yet, but hopefully soon. I've stuck with DTV because they've got the exclusive NFL package, which is great. But I'll be willing to check out Dish and Lightspeed when AT&T merges and starts offering it in the South. We'll see. Anyone but Comcast! 
Adam |
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Alpine
Premium
join:2000-01-11
Atlanta, GA | reply to dvd536
Re: FAP
Excuse my ignorance on satellite broadband. What is FAP? |
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fireflier
Coffee. . .Need Coffee
Premium
join:2001-05-25
Limbo
·Skype
|  Firmware update?
How do you re-purpose a satellite? Do you have to upload new firmware to make it run as an HD feeder vs. Broadband? I can see it now, the satellite completely locks up and goes dead because they uploaded firmware for the rev b satellite that had only rev a hardware. . .
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Wishes: When you wish upon a falling star, your dreams can come true. Unless it's really a meteorite hurtling to the Earth which will destroy all life. Then you're pretty much hosed no matter what you wish for. Unless it's death by meteor. --despair.com |
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Alpine
Premium
join:2000-01-11
Atlanta, GA
| Don't worry - they'd just call Satellite Tech Support in India...
"Uh, I think we flashed our bird with the wrong firmware. Can someone fly up there and hard boot us?"
Adam |
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inteller
Sociopaths always win.
join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK
| lets stop catering to hermits.
Really. The only people that will find Sat broadband a value are people who choose to live in the middle of no where. Even modestly rural areas have access to DSL and WiFi networks.
I remember when starband came out, that was going to solve all the rural broadband problems, in the end it was an expensive joke.
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"WHEN THE LAUGH TRACK STARTS THEN THE FUN STARTS!" |
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Mactron
el camino Real
Premium
join:2001-12-16
CM94sv
| reply to Alpine
Re: FAP
said by Alpine :Excuse my ignorance on satellite broadband. What is FAP? »www.copperhead.cc/fap.htm
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LoRo
join:2006-10-10
Stanwood, WA
| reply to inteller
Re: lets stop catering to hermits.
Catering to hermits? I have no clue what you do for a living inteller, but here... in the city area... you know SEATTLE, homes are astronomical in price to live in even the rural areas of a city with boradband DSL or Cable. The average cost of a home... that isn't a POS is about $400,000 I suggest you take a look around before you open your mouth... more and more people are moving out of the cities and the suburbs because it is too expensive to live. |
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Alpine
Premium
join:2000-01-11
Atlanta, GA | reply to Mactron
Re: FAP
Gotcha. Just another term for Terms of Service or something similar.
Thanks. |
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burgermeister
All Computers Are Junk
join:2000-10-23
Utica, MI | Pony up, DirecTV!
Don't buy an ISP, buy a network this time. Covad looks like the best bet.
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Semi751
join:2006-01-03
Waddy, KY
1 edit | reply to inteller
Re: lets stop catering to hermits.
Says the guy who obviously has not been to Bellsouth areas. Modestly rural areas having acess to DSL is a pipe dream across the US currently. That may be true in OK and for your telco, as well as other parts of the nation but it is not true over all. In most of Bellsouth's coverage area in KY there are no DSLAMs and not even all urban areas are covered. Also WiFi in modestly rural areas? Not likely unless you are confused and mean fixed wireless. WiFi in modestly rural areas I love that, it might serve 2 homes.
Satellite broadband is terrible, we do agree on that. If Direct TV wants in the broadband market again it better be thinking WiMax/Wireless because there are enough crappy high latency satellite providers out there already. |
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whitecastleyum
@wildblue.net | reply to burgermeister
Re: Pony up, DirecTV!
is that a white castle? |
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fonzbear2000
Premium
join:2005-08-09
Saint Paul, MN
| if they decide to do this
they should give free installation and equipment and a higher connection speed-of course, they'll probably be like every other satellite broadband and jack up the price on everything and not give high speeds-i wonder if there is a limit to the connection speed through satellite and what that limit is-maybe that's why they can't give higher speeds
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»never pay full price for high speed again!!! |
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burgermeister
All Computers Are Junk
join:2000-10-23
Utica, MI
| reply to whitecastleyum
Re: Pony up, DirecTV!
said by whitecastleyum :
is that a white castle?
Yes it is! You have a good eye.
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