  tiger72SexaT duorPPremium
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kudos:1 | I like it I got a skypephone and am loving it - i'll continue to use skype instead of other voip providers because of cost. $15/yr for unlimited calls can't be beat | |
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 | | | Re: I like it $1.25 per month! Works great with skpe usb adapter with my regular cordless phone! I'm sold | |
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| | Still not SIP compliant It is still not SIP compliant and I still cannot set it up in my ATA. Calling from a computer with your headset on is not really my idea of fun. | |
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|  kapilThe Kapil
join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL | Re: Still not SIP compliant Exactly. Regardless of what the "myspace" crowd thinks, it will be a very long time before we completely give up telephones for IM, or anything else attached to a computer.
...we'll have to live without faxes, snail mail and newspapers first!
Skype is like a VoIP provider that isn't. It supports no standards and ties you to a desk! If their service is free and I don't use it...why will I pay to use it? | |
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| |  EdibleTargetReal Gamers Dont Use Consoles
join:2004-12-02
Lowell, MA | Re: Still not SIP compliant You can get a wifi phone that has no wires to your computer at all.
But then again what skype is best for is calling internationally for free (skype to skype). Its also good for gamers to have a quick voice comm solution (what I use it for). | |
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you obviously don't travel...
Skype works perfectly on the road - and I'm not to about to lug my phone adapter to call back home from the UK -
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1 edit | It is not important that Skype is not SIP compliant and why do you believe that you must use a headset and a computer to use Skype?
Why would you possibly believe that Skype "ties you to a desk"? | |
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|  Michieru2zzz zzz zzzPremium
join:2005-01-28
Miami, FL | Skype does not offer flexibility and can be considered as consumer grade VOIP. SIP is more complex and can be expanded using a PBX box creating a entire phone network for your enterprise or small business without the need to get multiple lines for each phone.
On top of that I use Gizmo project which uses the jabber protocol for communication and I am able to cross talk between networks within the VOIP client. Livejournal has also done this and I have no problem contacting between networks.
I am aware that Skype has it's own devices and I have installed such devices for customers who asked, but I rather have SIP over Skype over the quality, the standard, and the flexibility. | |
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kapilThe Kapil
join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL | WTF Am I really the only one that thinks that eBay got screwed?
Here is a "company" that provides something for free....so millions of freeloaders sign up. In an effort to appear like a legitimate business with a sustainable business model, therefore an attractive M&A candidate, it tries offering products that cost money and generate revenue...and the response from consumers is negligible.
eBay, having realized that it doesn't have much of a sustainable business model itself, and its CEOs quest to prove that a woman can run a "cool" tech company, gets sold the Brooklyn bridge for $2.5 billion!!!
$2.5 BILLION. It's gonna take a crapload of auctions to get that money back.
And the analyst that thinks that skype can prove its worth by offering "click to call" to business....that market is pretty saturated as it is...and it's been offered for ages!
If you own eBay stock, dump it now, because that company has already seen its best days! | |
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| DMS1
join:2005-04-06
Carrollton, TX | Re: WTF said by kapil:Am I really the only one that thinks that eBay got screwed? No you are not, though I think they deserved what they got. I thought at the time that eBay's actions were reminiscent of the stupidity going on at the height of the dot-com boom.
It is interesting to compare the Skype purchase with the partial-IPO of Vonage. Many analysts believed the latter was over priced, and the subsequent stock slide reinforced this view. Yet, if you do the sums, the pricing valued Vonage at a small fraction that of Skype which is really strange when you consider that Vonage is the one with a business model that generates regular income.
I think we can thank our lucky stars that the stock markets are stable enough currently that eBay didn't manage to trigger another bust cycle among Internet-related stocks. | |
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|  emmpeethreeTwizzling FlagellaPremium
join:2001-04-13
Richmond, BC | said by kapil:If you own eBay stock, dump it now, because that company has already seen its best days! the only reason they bought it was for the users.
my buddy got hired at ebay and during his orientation someone asked why they bought skype since it seems to have nothing to do with anything ebay has business with.
appearently, the reason why they bought them was solely for the users. appearently only 5% of skype users use ebay and vice versa.
that means that 95% of skype users are not using ebay and are potential customers.
it's all about marketing.
fyi: ebay ain't stupid, on average they earn 10% of the final cost of all their auctions (between ebay and paypal fees)
pretty good if you ask me.
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1 edit | kapil -
your rant has nothing to do with the launch of the new pricing system..
quit throwing out numbers like you're an analyst or CFO | |
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| | kapilThe Kapil
join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL | Re: WTF The only number I mentioned was the dollar amount eBay threw away.
Unless his last name is Miller, an analyst's odds of predicting the market are no better than mine.
The beauty of a free market is that the same information is available anyone who cares enough to look.
And the only difference between me and a CFO is that I'm not white and 6 feet tall and don't play golf with my Ivy league buddies when I should be working. | |
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If you want to make a point and want people to take what you say seriously ... the above statement is not the way to do it.
It's like saying that McDonald's has no sustainable business model ... and McDonald's could only hope to be doing as well as e-bay.
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| | kapilThe Kapil
join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL | Re: WTF If you want to make a point, and want people to take you seriously, REGISTER! | |
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| | | | | Re: WTF >>If you want to make a point, and want people to take you seriously, REGISTER!
If you can't make sense then make sarcasm.
e-bay is one of the most successful companies of the last ten years by everyone's standards. But they don't have a sustainable business plan?
Maybe that was sarcasm too?
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and its CEOs quest to prove that a woman can run a "cool" tech company
You're aware that the CEO of Mozilla is a woman, right? | |
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| | kapilThe Kapil
join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL | Re: WTF Mozilla is a non-profit org. So the CEO Mitchell Baker is a CEO like my garage is a car dealership.
Besides, I didn't say there is anything wrong with a woman running a company...I was just pointing out the overwhelming urge female executives have to show the world that they are equals...and the crazy ways they go about doing so.
..it's kinda' like being the cool kid in school...either you got it or you don't...and the harder you try, the more you're not! | |
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join:2004-04-09
Smithtown, NY
kudos:3 | Great Travel Companion Ok $14.95 is a really great deal especially if you go somewhere that there is an Internet connection and for some reason, no phone or really expensive calling.
I think it is worth it as a secondary method. Not primary. | |
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join:2002-12-22
Fayetteville, GA
1 edit | Re: Great Travel Companion yea like my home....and millions of others.....which makes it a primary phone,not secondary | |
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| | | Re: Bloggers?? I'm with you mate. I like Skype, I use SkypeOut, I am happy with the service, I am happy with the improvements they have made, I am happy with the cost, I am happy it runs on Linux and it runs on my PocketPC and I couldn't care less what other people think.
If anyone wants to call me via IP, they better be using Skype, or otherwise they will have to use the PSTN. No Yahoo and Google, AIM and MSN wanna-be's cut it for me. I refuse to use them.
SIP is important to carriers and providers. To me the underlying signaling protocol doesn't matter. If it matters to you, use Vonage or CallVantage and pay the big bucks  | |
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Nah....! | |
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join:2006-06-07
Oakland, CA | Is it traceable just out of curiosity.....is it tracable calls? recorded conversations? DEA, FBI, etc? | |
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|  ssj4androidRedefining Reality
join:2002-04-14
Wyoming, MI
1 edit | Re: Is it traceable Yes, if I remember correctly I've heard about the calls being traced. It will be even easier if you have a credit card attached to it. | |
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join:2006-06-07
Oakland, CA | What is SIP? what terminlogy is that? | |
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|  Subaru1-3-2-4Premium
join:2001-05-31
Greenwich, CT | Re: What is SIP? Session Initiation Protocol | |
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 jgkoltPremium
join:2004-02-21
Lakewood, OH | skypeout transfer to yearly amount? I have 12$ of skype out credit. i wonder if i can apply that and get the 15$ skype unlimited. Does this deal apply to skype in and also provide voicemaill too? If all is true then sign me up.
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| jgkoltPremium
join:2004-02-21
Lakewood, OH | Re: skypeout transfer to yearly amount? anyone have an idea | |
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 plkLil' Duffer Burger BarnPremium
join:2002-04-20
Ogden, IA | getting better Skype has been doing better for me. Call quality has improved. Still some lag and delay. However at 15 a year. I think I will go for it.
As for tracing calls and wire taps etc. Damn....I hope the new congress makes that come to a quick halt.
Hell, I'm to old to do anything wrong....but government isn't perfect and I don't trust it. Who knows where such a direction will lead in 100 yrs. Close the damn borders before we sell out. Sorry...little rant there.
Now if skype can pull off a 10 dollars a month skypein........ sweet.
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join:2003-06-05
London, UK | I dont see it I am looking for that offer and I dont see it, where is it? | |
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| | bye BYe Bye Vonage and Bellsouth : ) Here I come Skype! | |
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| | Not a replacement for a "real" phone or SIP phone. I would not use it as a replacement for my POTS, my main VoIP or my cell phone, but there are times where Skype is just the right thing. And no, you are not necessarily tethered to your computer when you use it (although it does take a bit of effort or $ to break that dependency).
Before you get all excited by phone service for $15/year, though, notice that this calling plan gives you calling out capability, but not the capability to receive calls from another POTS phone or from another VoIP service. You can only receive calls coming in through Skype, or through the extra cost SkypeIn service (approx. $40/year).
This is basically the pay version of the free calling to the US and Canada from US and Canada IP addresses that has been in effect since earlier this year. No longer free after December 31. It might get end up being rolled into SkypeIn subscriptions though so you might want to check that out first. | |
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|  NJxxxJonDSLR'er from the 56k days.Premium
join:2005-10-22
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| Re: Not a replacement for a "real" phone or SIP phone. said by claudeo:I would not use it as a replacement for my POTS, my main VoIP or my cell phone, but there are times where Skype is just the right thing. And no, you are not necessarily tethered to your computer when you use it (although it does take a bit of effort or $ to break that dependency). Before you get all excited by phone service for $15/year, though, notice that this calling plan gives you calling out capability, but not the capability to receive calls from another POTS phone or from another VoIP service. You can only receive calls coming in through Skype, or through the extra cost SkypeIn service (approx. $40/year). This is basically the pay version of the free calling to the US and Canada from US and Canada IP addresses that has been in effect since earlier this year. No longer free after December 31. It might get end up being rolled into SkypeIn subscriptions though so you might want to check that out first. I AM WONDERing if the skype in will go down in price.
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join:2002-04-15
Tacoma, WA | Exactly... When you factor in SkypeOut, SkypeIn and some hassles of dealing with Skype's proprietary technology, then that $8/month ($199 for 2 year) Sunrocket deal that sometimes floats around, gets better and better...
Skype has it's uses, but sometimes it's better to spend a little extra and get something more reliable then penny pinch yourself into a situation which will give you nothing but headaches later on... | |
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| Re: Not a replacement for a "real" phone or SIP phone. Let's do the math here.
Right now I can buy a full year of unlimited OUTGOING Skype for $14.95. Add to that a full year of unlimited INCOMING for $38. That is less than $53 for a whole year! A little over $4 a month.
SunRocket has constant outages and service problems. I can't recall the last time Skype has been down.
I can't believe all the whiners about Skype not being SIP-compliant. Are you all a bunch of open source Linux nuts or what? There are a plethora of boxes to use your existing equipment with Skype. | |
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| | ok be honest.... I am using pap2 adaptor with vbuzzer and i pay 5 dollars a month for unlimited toronto local calling and it is crystal clear, I want to use skype as well but the headset pc thing is annoying and it sounds like background noise no way near as clear as using the pap2.. now I see ther is some skype adaptor how is the quality? I bought some voip usb phone and i may as well just bough a Piece of shit in a box because that is what it is, It sounds like crap its echos it has background noise it is pethetic. How to have clear skype phone calls.. the PC to PC stuff is great sounding but then voip part is not so good | |
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| | | Re: ok be honest.... Please refrain from using profanity. "pethetic" ROTFL. | |
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DesdinovaPremium
join:2003-01-26
Gaithersburg, MD | Personally, I LOVE Skype. I don't understand why folks have this delusion that they HAVE to use a headset and mic to use Skype. I have a large diaphragm vocal mic plugged into my computer and it's turned my PC into the best speakerphone ever: no feedback, no delay or latency issues and I can wander down the hall from the computer and folks I'm talking to have no problems hearing or understanding me (nor I them). The Skype to Skype calls are naturally clearer, but calls to POTS also sound great.
I've been using it for six months now and I love it and have no intention of getting rid of it. As a screenwriter, I learned years ago that if you have a phone number outside of the greater Los Angeles area, there's something weird and suspicious about you (unless your last film won an Oscar or your last TV show won an Emmy). SkypeIn lets me have a 310 area code dial-in number at a straight $38 a year. No additional fees, no taxes, just one payment and we're done. I also get voicemail and the past six months of free calls has been awesome.
Obviously, there are a number of folks out there who want a specific task performed by their phone service that they feel Skype doesn't do well enough for them. That's great, they're free to use whatever they want. My question is, can their preferred service provide me with unlimted long distance that has excellent sound quality to anywhere in North America PLUS provide me with a 310 area code dial-in phone number and voice mail for $53 a year!? | |
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| | | Re: Personally, I LOVE Skype. The main problem I see with Skype is the lack of 911 access...you're pretty much putting yourself in a bad situation if you don't have a backup (a cheap pay-as-you-go cell phone might work on this occasion but still not ideal).
Other than that, all this talk has me interested in switching to something like Roadrunner cable internet and ditching Earthlink. | |
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plkLil' Duffer Burger BarnPremium
join:2002-04-20
Ogden, IA |  Skypein costs?
Also, they say you can have up to 10 numbers. I assume from 10 different cities. Does the price (what ever it is) for each number? Do the prices go down with more then one???
Sorry about the little off topic.
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