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Comments on news posted 2006-12-16 11:49:20: Hosting a group of "prominent" (determined how?) bloggers this week, Microsoft's Bill Gates freely admitted that it was easier to "just buy a CD and rip it," than deal with cumbersome on-line digital rights management (DRM). ..

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kyramilan

join:2006-11-26
Pensacola, FL
Oh, Brother!

Bill Gates has put a ton of DRM in Vista making it Windows ME revisted.

If we are a free country, why do we need Gates & Windows?


Hangmn
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said by kyramilan See Profile :

Bill Gates has put a ton of DRM in Vista making it Windows ME revisted.

If we are a free country, why do we need Gates & Windows?
You don't need it or him..write your own OS..if its good I will buy it
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snipper_cr

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What do you mean? I didnt think that ME had that much DRM or anything of the like. It just sucked :-P
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kyramilan

join:2006-11-26
Pensacola, FL

reply to Hangmn
I rip CDs in my Creative Zen program. It ignores DRM pretty much. In fact, songs imported from WMP that wouldn't play in WMP, play fine in Creative Zen Media Organizer.

I have the Creative Zen M: 30 gig model. Love it. My iPod is neatly packed away (probably give it to my sisters 7 year old for Christmas). I tried the Zune but reliance on WMP 10 and constant "Update to WMP 11" requests made me take it back. I love it that I can store docs, PDF files, and such from work, transfer to my computer at home, work on them and email the final versions back to my office.

compton

join:2002-02-08
Brooklyn, NY

reply to snipper_cr
Bill Gates is knocking itunes when he says ripping CDs better than DRM. The Irony is his products (Zune, I am looking at you)has some of the most draconian DRM in the business. My guess is this is just another attempt by MS to control the market and have vendor lock in to one of their formats. MS is edging around to stating that DRM is broken and only we can fix it; so, the industry should use our DRM standard. This in another attempt by MS to screw Zune's competition especially the ipod.


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One must remember that it isn't MS controlling the DRM policies on content from the RIAA/MPAA, it's those organizations themselves. I believe even Steve Jobs said something a while back about the music industry being stupid trying to implement DRM that will just end up being circumvented anyway.
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BF69

join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

emusic is apples and oranges

They mostly sell unknown artists that need the exposure. Of course they aren't losing sales because no one was buying them anyways. Metalica used to encourage their fans to bring in recorder and tape their shows before they got really big. Now they are very much against that type of stuff. The artists that sell their stuff on e-music will be the same way if they ever get big. Nature of the beast.


TK Junk Mail
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join:2006-07-30
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No DRM and .WAV format. Then I'll pay to download.

Right now I pay full price (or above full price) for DRM and compression? No thanks.


viperpa33s
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Distorted his brain

At times Bill Gates talks out of both sides of his mouth. Thinks all his money distorted his brain.


Michieru_

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The distributors will eventually start taking bites at the content providers. With that said, iTunes has been a application that because of it's ease of use, gained so much popularity that it grew quickly to being the #1 distribution for online music.

Customers today tell me that why can't they transfer songs from there iPod and play them on there PC. Clearly I told them it's because of DRM, if they wanted too they could install iTunes but some of them give me the smerck.

So far here in Miami, I have not seen anyone with a Zune, and just more people with white ear buds. Bill Gates, is simply giving his consumer point of view on this and although many people say "but this is my business or political point of view" yet have other point of views that are completely opposite it's fair to say that they don't agree with there own mentality.

Microsoft is going to struggle and struggle but eventually the RIAA is going to be a dead horse. When that happens the music industry would be shattered and we shall be a bunch of new faces and maybe even new music hit up the industry. On top of that sound engineers will be in high demand as buying yourself equipment to make your own music is as much as purchasing a new car.

I plan to pay around 10-20K in studio equipment for live sound & digital recording. Something like that is completely unncessary for some garage band. Since I brought Garage band up what about the application "Garageband" itself by Apple computer?

Eventually the future artists will be making there own music, the way I see it and will have there own websites where they post there music and ask for donations. The more popular the song becomes the more donations you might receive and in the end all that money goes in your band and it's split amongst each member. I see a bright future if the RIAA does die, and the end of most DRM and music distribution's that are here today, and what was once the iTunes music store shall be "iTunes global sharing Network" where artists pay a monthly fee and can submit there music to the world to see.

As for hollywood which is out of ideas, they have been more smarter and have been pushing to move there content online and one example is they are now on iTunes. ABC is also pushing to put there content online as well.

As we move more and more to online forms of distributions we are talking about huge demand for high speed internet services. With that said, it seems it's time for the telecommunications industry to do massive increases towards it's infrastructure.


OnErrorGotoCourt

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Captain obvious

He's lamenting an apparent business failure due to technical reasons, not adjusting his views. One of these days, he'll make more than $2 an hour... as soon as making copies of professional work gets harder .

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majortom1029

join:2006-10-19
Lindenhurst, NY
What he feels and what companies make him do are different

Its most likely the riaa,and MPaa controlling the drm in windows vista.

I Think if it were up to gates himself he would not have it in there.


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Re: Oh, Brother!

said by scrummie02 See Profile :

One must remember that it isn't MS controlling the DRM policies on content from the RIAA/MPAA, it's those organizations themselves.
I agree. It is the music companies that force Apple and Microsoft to put DRM on their music download services. Both would prefer to sell music w/o DRM. That way they could sell more music and more hardware players.
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kyramilan

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Re: What he feels and what companies make him do are different

said by majortom1029 See Profile :

Its most likely the riaa,and MPaa controlling the drm in windows vista.

I Think if it were up to gates himself he would not have it in there.
How about that ridiculous WGA Bill Gates has? Office 2007 won't allow other programs to open .doc or .xls files. I also love it that Microsoft knows what is on my computer that is NOT Microsoft. I like my ATI video card software just the way it is!

How about Vista NOT srewing up existing drivers? IT at work decided XP Pro was fine. Why? They didn't want to get calls from everyone asking why doesn't xxxx no longer work?

How about Zune not being Play for Sure compatible?

Gates can shove his Zune and Jobs can shove his iPod (like it but replacing a battery takes an Act of Congress and costs about as much as you paid for the thing--iTunes music is poor quality--I rip CDs in 256k MP3s). If you have a brain, get a IRiver or a Creative Zen.

And, WHY is the Zune sold in the UGLIEST colors possible? Brown? What idiot decided Brown would be popular? They call it the "Chocolate" Zune?

While I'm on a rant, how about NOT putting Microsoft's crappy software on cellphones. I want to make a call not figure out how many steps it takes to change the background picture. How about releasing a OS that works fine instead of needing 12 updates every week because some idiot geek at Microsoft couldn't think 2 seconds into the future? Nice when you buy a new computer and run Microsoft update to find you need 54 updates!


Vamp
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Bill Gates is an Idiot and Hypocrite...

Need I say more?

majortom1029

join:2006-10-19
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reply to kyramilan
Re: What he feels and what companies make him do are different

said by kyramilan See Profile :

said by majortom1029 See Profile :

Its most likely the riaa,and MPaa controlling the drm in windows vista.

I Think if it were up to gates himself he would not have it in there.

How about that ridiculous WGA Bill Gates has? Office 2007 won't allow other programs to open .doc or .xls files. I also love it that Microsoft knows what is on my computer that is NOT Microsoft. I like my ATI video card software just the way it is!

How about Vista NOT srewing up existing drivers? IT at work decided XP Pro was fine. Why? They didn't want to get calls from everyone asking why doesn't xxxx no longer work?

How about Zune not being Play for Sure compatible?

Gates can shove his Zune and Jobs can shove his iPod (like it but replacing a battery takes an Act of Congress and costs about as much as you paid for the thing--iTunes music is poor quality--I rip CDs in 256k MP3s). If you have a brain, get a IRiver or a Creative Zen.

And, WHY is the Zune sold in the UGLIEST colors possible? Brown? What idiot decided Brown would be popular? They call it the "Chocolate" Zune?

While I'm on a rant, how about NOT putting Microsoft's crappy software on cellphones. I want to make a call not figure out how many steps it takes to change the background picture. How about releasing a OS that works fine instead of needing 12 updates every week because some idiot geek at Microsoft couldn't think 2 seconds into the future? Nice when you buy a new computer and run Microsoft update to find you need 54 updates!
Wow you are very uninformed.

First off don't blame Microsoft for 3rd parties not having good drivers.

Do you blame all the linux distros because you equipment doesnt work on linux?

Or Blame apple because some hardware doesnt work on os x ?

Also most xp drivers work on vista . In reality xp drivers should not work on vista at all , since that is what is causing a lot of the problems in vista in the first place.

Also then rant about linux too. We still cant update one of our linux servers because everytime we do it hoses the os and we have to redo the image.

But of course you are just being a hypocrite.


thender2
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One step towards clear thinking.

Can we have another? Can we have someone say this about video? D


dadkins
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Bill Gates: Ripping CDs Better Than DRM

DUH!


CPM

join:2001-08-24
Miami, FL

Bill Gates is a hypocrite. Bill Gates has put a ton of DRM in Vista and Zune Player.
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kyramilan

join:2006-11-26
Pensacola, FL

reply to majortom1029
Re: What he feels and what companies make him do are different

majortom1029

Upgrading from XP to Vista shouldn't make drivers from ATI not work. It is also funny a DVD drive wasn't recognized.

If you want Vista, buy a computer with it already installed! Even Microsoft kinda advises that.

Uninformed? Zune does NOT support Play for Sure. And, yes, the brown Zune is the ugliest MP3 player I've ever seen, and the stupiest idea for a color ever.

How about PROVING what I said was wrong?

If your "techs" that installed Linux on your servers can't upgrade, hire a geek that can or call IBM. IBM has no problems updating ours.
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