homeshark
join:2001-03-09
Saint Petersburg, FL | I'd still install it
What are the odds of those flaws being used against me |
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Subaru
1-3-2-4
Premium
join:2001-05-31
Greenwich, CT
clubs:  | Me
I don't seem surprised at all. |
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exocet_cm
I am the law
Premium
join:2003-03-23
New Orleans, LA
clubs: | shafted!
HA! Is this ther first flaw? One and counting... |
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brianiscool
join:2000-08-16
Miami, FL |  hmm
That is some high tech protection for you  |
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bleearg13
join:2001-03-03
Gaithersburg, MD
| How is this stuff found?
Reading about one of the vulnerabilities, I'm interested to know how these vulnerabilities are discovered. There are obviously hackers/crackers and researchers alike that spend every waking hour trying to identify vulnerabilities, but exactly how is it done? Most specifically, this exploit regarding the "MessageBox" function:
»www.darkreading.com/document.asp···d=113414
How on earth is this found? |
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John_W
Premium
join:2000-04-25
Worcester, MA
clubs:
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| It's the black hats we have to worry about.
It's the white hats MS has to worry about. It's how quickly the software companies respond to the white hat vulnerability discoveries that concern us.
Almost all, if not all, software has some sort of exploitable code in it. It is just how fast those companies fix the problem that makes the difference between a good and bad company. MS has had a habit of ignoring white hat findings, or at best putting off, where other software companies, like mozilla, who who get their patches right out there as soon as they can.
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SD6
join:2005-03-26 | Not as bad as before
"While I know this is a vulnerability that impacts Windows Vista, I still have every confidence that Windows Vista is our most secure platform to date..."
That's not saying much. |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| reply to homeshark
Re: I'd still install it
said by homeshark  :What are the odds of those flaws being used against me Um slim and none. Most of this crap is overblown. Supposedly XP is so unsecure. No one has ever taken over my computer using any of these alarmist exploits they have announced over the years.
I bet you can find many people that can find ways of breaking out of the most secure maximum security prisons in the US. I'm not expecting a rash of breakouts anytime soon. |
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DanMan
@comcast.net
| Major??
These bugs are being overhyped. If you read them carefully you will find that some of them need physical access to exploit, while others are just "possible exploits".
There is nothing abnormal about finding bugs in over 50 million lines of code, humans wrote them. What is abnormal is the concerted effort by some to bring down this product before MS has a chance to respond. |
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DanMan
@comcast.net | reply to BF69
Re: I'd still install it
Agree 100% |
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Jameson
10-8
Premium
join:2004-05-28
Fallbrook, CA
clubs: | reply to SD6
Re: Not as bad as before
Look, there are vulnerabilities in ever OS. People freaking out about one vulnerability is retarded. |
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Kevin83165
join:2002-03-31
Herrin, IL | If it were just one vulnerability and not six then perhaps. ^
When you steal from OS X, steal the whole thing including it's security, not just tidbits and ideas.
(ouch may the flames roll now) |
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captokita
Premium
join:2005-02-22
Calabash, NC
| At least it took awhile.....
Well, Vista has been in Beta tests for some time now, and it's only just now been discovered? Sure, it's just the start, but really, no OS is 100% foolproof. There are plenty of fools out there after all.  |
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Jameson
10-8
Premium
join:2004-05-28
Fallbrook, CA
clubs:
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| reply to SD6
Re: Not as bad as before
said by SD6 :"While I know this is a vulnerability that impacts Windows Vista, I still have every confidence that Windows Vista is our most secure platform to date..." That's not saying much. I'm a mac guy :\ I prefer mac over windows any day but I will just say that people complaining about vulnerabilities in a beta release of a product is stupid.
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Fatal Vector
join:2005-11-26
1 edit | And so, it begins.
Just like I said it would. More swiss for the hacker sandwich. This is Microsofts best effort "signifigant progress"?
It's sad, really, because we didn't even need Vista. There isn't really anything in it worth the time, trouble and expense to "upgrade" to it. They will, of course, end up shoving it down our throats, since the OEM's have all jumped on the bandwagon and see a excuse to jack up the prices on computers with those whiz bang vidcards and RAM.
I'm sure the makers of those cards and RAM are ecstatic as well. Dont forget the DVD drive so you can run the friggin install disk, IF you even get one, of course and not some lame assed "restore" disk to keep it "factory fresh".
Never mind the expected explosion in bloat and the doubling in price. The only reason they pursued this thing is because they wanted to follow their tried and proven marketing. XP is mature and the profits are falling off. The Windoze OS is their cash cow.
Now they can say Windoze is "new" and, gee, you get a new eye candy GUI-IF, of course, you have a super whiz bang Vid card, 2 Gig of ram and a new mother board for them-And, gee! 64 bit for the true geek too!
Other than that, betcha it's the same thing as before, as shown by at least one "flaw" mentioned here that also affects previous versions. I wonder why...
Run, little lemmings, run...Only $400 this time around for super whiz bang...dont forget $300 for the vidcard and another $200 for RAM...Run! |
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LeftOfSanity
join:2005-11-06
Felton, DE | reply to Kevin83165
Re: Not as bad as before
Is OS X really that much more secure?? Or is it the fact that no one really cares about OS X? Windows is on more machines. |
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orion940
Paralyzed By Confusion
Premium
join:2001-12-23
Windsor, CT
 ·AT&T Yahoo
| This is never-ending
No matter what the product, be it a browser, OS, hardware...if someone doesn't like it, they will find a hole in it.
If I am marketing something, I will poke holes in the competition.
Bottom line to me, who gives a ...
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pabster
join:2001-12-09
Waterloo, IA | reply to Kevin83165
Re: Not as bad as before
Take your Mac fanboy attitude elsewhere.
Mac practices security through obscurity. Nothing less, nothing more. |
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