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Comments on news posted 2007-01-01 10:09:44: The Chicago Tribune explores customer irritation with AT&T's tactic of offering "naked" DSL (DSL without a phone line), but charging the customer more to order it. ..

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inteller
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TKJunkMail
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 Under AT&T/BellSouth merger this ends, right?

This policy of charging more for naked DSL than a phone/dsl pkg is over with the new merger approval. Aren't the newspapers late to the story here?

»AT&T BellSouth Merger

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tmc8080

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cablemodem time

couldn't you just get an unbundled cablemodem for that price?


Corona
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Most cable companies also charge more for cable internet without cable TV service.
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tyscoj

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Yes, but most cable companies only charge a $5 fee or so, they dont make you pay the same price for having both services, and then the fee on top of that.


Michieru2
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reply to TKJunkMail
Re: Under AT&T/BellSouth merger this ends, right?

The merger is between AT&T & Bellsouth so if I am not mistaken it would only apply in Bellsouth territories not in others.


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Re: cablemodem time

said by tyscoj See Profile :

Yes, but most cable companies only charge a $5 fee or so, they dont make you pay the same price for having both services, and then the fee on top of that.
Comca$t charges $15 more a MO. here and only 4M DL available on top of that.
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Comcast is charging $15 for not having TV service. In my area anyway.

Edit: Mactron beat me to the punch.

2nd Edit: Sorry, the way Comcast puts it, you don't get a $15 price reduction on HSI if you don't have TV service.


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Cox ups the ante $10 for failure to have cable however has a $15/mo cable package that waives the $10 upchagrge


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Re: Under AT&T/BellSouth merger this ends, right?

said by Michieru2 See Profile :

The merger is between AT&T & Bellsouth so if I am not mistaken it would only apply in Bellsouth territories not in others.
The FCC order APPEARS to apply to both AT&T and Bell South territory according to this paragraph:
»hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/a···75A1.pdf
3. Within twelve months of the Merger Closing Date, AT&T/BellSouth will make available in its in-region territory an ADSL service capable of speeds up to 768 Kbps to ADSL-capable customers without requiring customers such to also purchase circuit switched voice grade telephone service ("Stand Alone 768 Kbps service").

AT&T/BellSouth will continue to offer the 768 Kbps service in a state for thirty months after the "Stand Alone 768 Kbps Implementation Date" for that state.

For purposes of this commitment, the "Stand Alone 768 Kbps Implementation Date" for a state shall be the date on which AT&T/BellSouth can offer the Stand Alone 768 Kbps service to eighty percent of the ADSL-capable premises in AT&TBellSouth's in-region territory in that state. The stand Alone 768 Kbps service will be offered at a rate of not more than $19.95 per month (exclusive of regulatory fees and taxes).
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Rick
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While we all might bit** and gripe over what our

service costs at times the fact of the matter is overall I think it's an amazing value in most cases.

For most users their internet connection amounts to about .50cents to 1.50 per day.

Tell me. Where else do you get all that this delivers for that kind of money?

From that small fry at Mc'ds maybe?
Those 7 cigs that some of you will smoke today?

That half a cup of starbucks coffee you'll be slamming down?

That scratch off lottery ticket perhaps?

That's what this costs in relation to all the above when you boil it all right down.

I don't know about you, but for me, my connection is practically my right arm these days. I use it for work and play. It's the worlds biggest encyclopedia of everything you ever wanted to know and see, and then some. I simply cannot even begin to calculate what it has done and saved me in terms of money, time and efficiency over the years.
I've probably saved more in online shopping in the last 2 weeks alone to pay for a years cable HSI connection.

Add to that the way prices have come DOWN over the years..(are you old enough to remember those 200.00 and 300.00 month hourly charges?)and I think it all adds up to perhaps we should be looking at things this way instead.

And then maybe the real value behind it will become more apparent.
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Not true concessions

The naked DSL they are offering is only for 768 down, not even for there highest download speed. In order to get the deal, you would have to downgrade to the slowest speed. It's only for 30 months and after that AT&T can do what it likes. This isn't what I consider true concessions, just a little icing on the cake.

I have Embarq and I get charged an extra $10 a month for dropping my phone service and pay an extra $8.88 for having the phone line. According to Embarq I do have local phone service, I just can't make any toll or long distance calls. It don't make any sense to me but I guess that is why I am not in the phone business.


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reply to The Beer
Re: cablemodem time

Adelphia re-did there pricing for there cable modem last year, no matter if you had cable or not it was 44.95 or so for there regular package. Now since RR has moved into the area, I just saw a new price sheet and they to do not penalize you if you do not have cable TV. $44.95 it is.

Enlightener

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Cedar Park, TX
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Corona-

That's not the problem. The probem would be comparable to charging more for internet then internet and cable. There is nothing wrong for charging a little more for internet only as long as it's still less then internet and cable.

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reply to The Beer
said by The Beer See Profile :

Cox ups the ante $10 for failure to have cable however has a $15/mo cable package that waives the $10 upchagrge
Haha...

So you pay $15/m to save paying $10/m ?

Lots of savings there.

Enlightener

join:2006-01-28
Cedar Park, TX
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Re: Under AT&T/BellSouth merger this ends, right?

RTFA. They mention this.

cafields

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Muncie, IN

Naked DSL Price - Muncie Indiana US

Here is the price for Naked ADSL in Muncie Indiana I currently have the 1.5 package, on my UnNaked line, but I only connect at 384/384 and I get 320Kbps Down and about 200Kbps Up at about 11270 feet. We were just upgraded to UVerse here in Muncie and three other Indiana cities on 12/28/2006, were just waiting for the prequalification system to be updated so we can order, the nearest fiber DSlam is about 3000 feet away, so I should have no problem receiving VDSL 2+, at full speed, I plan on ordering the 6000/1000 UVerse enabled internet with my UVerse TV plan.

Package Down-stream Up-stream IP Address Term Monthly Price
AT&T Yahoo! High Speed Internet - No Voice Line - Express 384 Kbps to 1.5 Mbps 128 to 384 Kbps 1 Dynamic 6 Months $44.99

AT&T Yahoo! High Speed Internet - No Voice Line - Express 384 Kbps to 1.5 Mbps 128 to 384 Kbps 1 Dynamic No Term $49.99



Static IP Plans What is an IP Address?

Package Down-stream Up-stream IP Address Term Monthly Price
AT&T Yahoo! High Speed Internet - No Voice Line - Express S 384 Kbps to 1.5 Mbps 128 to 384 Kbps 5 Static IPs One year $64.99

AT&T Yahoo! High Speed Internet - No Voice Line - Express S 384 Kbps to 1.5 Mbps 128 to 384 Kbps 5 Static IPs No Term $74.99

ZipZilla

join:2005-07-09
Ladson, SC

what a joke

Whitacre played the FCC like fools on this one.

a TRUE concession would be requiring at&t to offer naked dsl on ALL packages at a price less than that of dsl+ voice line. they don't want to do it because they know what we know: home landline telephones are obsolete. they just want to keep milking the copper

The FCC could have made a difference here, but instead they rolled over and played dead. and the democrats on the commission accepted Whitacres welfare handouts like obedient subjects


Varlik
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Hey didn't you Already....

Know that bundling saves you Money. See just look at the money you save with AT&T's bundled pricing. You can use the savings to purchase more services and features. Maybe AT&T can add a fee and make some money off of allowing our government to eavesdrop monitor and Spy protect us. They could call it a phone line security monitoring fee.


Michieru2
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reply to Hellrazor
Re: cablemodem time

That means instead of paying 15 dollars for TV service, he is paying 5 dollars.
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