kyramilan
join:2006-11-26
Pensacola, FL | Disgruntled Ex-Employee and former Competitor
Take with a grain of salt. |
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batterup
I Can Not Tell A Lie.
Premium
join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ
clubs: | What is his problem?
Why is he cutting and running before WV is fibered? Verizon wants WV to go the way of Hawaii; Ma Bell is dead and yet the people bitch. |
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scrummie02
Bentley
Premium
join:2004-04-16
Arlington, VA
| reply to kyramilan
Re: Disgruntled Ex-Employee and former Competitor
that's what common sense would tell you...but anything going against the big bad corporations here will be welcome...
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kyramilan
join:2006-11-26
Pensacola, FL
| said by scrummie02  :that's what common sense would tell you...but anything going against the big bad corporations here will be welcome... LOL! Most don't have common cent$ on here that I see so far. You're an exception to the rule.
BBR
B*tch about your Broadband through Reports = BBR dotcom!
LOL! |
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aj004
join:2006-05-28
Forest Hills, NY
| Verizon always manipulates!
The moral here is all the broadband providers suck balls and noone offers symmetrical broadband!
My complex has RCN FTTB (Fiber to the building) which is then on coxial to the apartments. The fiber network itself is just as good if not better than Verizon on the local level. But RCN's finannces have been crap for a long time.
Between Verizon, Time Warner AND RCN here, they all suck. The POTS infrastructure is kickass old, but one carrier put in ADSL2+ DSLAMs in the CO so you can get 8Mbps/1Mbps DSL since Im in distance. BUT the Fiber infrastructure from Time Warner was upgraded a little bit with new amps and they split some nodes, but its still a high home to node ratio. RCN is fiber DIRECTLY to the building BUT its a shitty company. So between the 3 they all suck and we cant get it right.
At least though RCN has 20Mbps/2Mbps speeds at the moment but its still old docsis infrastructure. |
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T1 Rocky
join:2002-11-15
Dallas, TX
 ·Time Warner Cable
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Re: Disgruntled Ex-Employee and former Competitor
What are yall talking about? America is number 13 in the world in terms of broadbrand deployment despite us being a distant number one in terms of wealth. Did you not read the story on dslr 2 days ago about how ma bell was back to Qwest, Verizon and AT&T? Take a look at these lobbyist figures »www.publicintegrity.org/lobby/to···ompanies
And you don't think that the telcos are buying the government? You don't think that those lobbying dollars have any impact on the government allowing AT&T to buy Bell South last week? You don't think those lobbying dollars translate directly into all of those line items on your phone bill that the government "requires" the telcos to collect to maintain their networks? I'm in Texas and just last night on the news a Texas law maker in Austin was under fire for accepting $1000 toilets for his apartment and other gifts from AT&T. So are we to believe that AT&T just wanted to make sure this poor millionaire had crappers that didn't leak?
I totally sympathise with this guy. The big loser here is the American public. And if you think there is competition, then why don't you go down to the city and file for zoning to put fiber into a neighborhood. Look at what has happened to cities who tried to do municipal wireless. I'm amazed that people just say this guy is a bitter competitor. This guy represents thousands and thousands of companies that the telcos have buried over the last 10 years. |
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blueeyesm
join:2003-09-05
Waterloo, ON | reply to batterup
Re: What is his problem?
He's retiring - go click the link.
sheesh...
"cutting and running"... :S |
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
| Garbage bags are cute
In NYC, actually 4 blocks from my house, there is a "garbage bag splice box", its a overhead 1 family house fully detached area. Seems like nothing new to me. I havent seen any go up recently though. I think I heard on DSLR here it was standard procedure in the 1980s for NY Tel to garbage bag things. Wasnt there a document showing techs where to staple?  |
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kyramilan
join:2006-11-26
Pensacola, FL
| reply to T1 Rocky
Re: Disgruntled Ex-Employee and former Competitor
T1 Rocky - The Government is for the rich, by the rich, and of the rich. Just now figuring that out?
How about the new morons that took over Congress today? 2 years of Gridlock while Social Security goes down the drain, a few million more illegals cross the border, and more and more people have NO health care.
All Hail the Democrats! Just as crooked as the Republicans. With Republicans, at least you know who they are for. Democrats? I have no clue.  |
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balazone
60 billion
Premium
join:2002-04-01
Wheeling, WV
·Comcast Formerly ..
| Fibernet sucks
I live and work in WV for a communications company. I can tell you first hand Fibernet is the worst company to deal with. Customers of ours have their T's and they go down all the time. We ask Fibernet to monitor them and they don't. They cannot even get simple hunt groups and roll overs to work.
As for WV neglected infrastructure it depends on where you are. Everything I have dealt with that is VZ's is newer and in pretty good shape. The problem is FIOS. I have friends who work for VZ and they tell me since FIOS is costing VZ so much money that budget in non-fios areas are cut way back. Everything is going for FIOS.
VZ owns pretty much all the copper and fiber in WV so they can do what they want, however they want. But they are so much better the Fibernet I would rather deal with VZ then Fibernet anyday. |
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dynodb
Premium,VIP
join:2004-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
1 edit | reply to kyramilan
Re: Disgruntled Ex-Employee and former Competitor
What a worthless article; it contains no meaningful specifics but rather relies on the vague ramblings of a retiring competetor and former employee. Of course any article critical of the telcos (unless it involves FIOS) is apparently worthy of Broadband Report's front page. Did a telco truck run over your dog or something Karl?
He's bitter because he lost contracts to Verizon after being unable to meet the terms of the RFP, he's bitter because his company *gasp* had to pay money to lease Verizon's equipment, and that Verizon donated money to schools because it apparently equates to "bribery".
Hell, the rambling old coot still refers to Verizon as "Bell Atlantic". Sounds like his "best used before" date expired some time ago. |
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aj004
join:2006-05-28
Forest Hills, NY
| reply to patcat88
Re: Garbage bags are cute
patcat88: Virgil Parsons works for Fibernet which merged with CTC which is part of CVC Ventures. RCN now shares the network with Hibernia Metro owned by CVC Ventures as well. I think that its possible CVC Ventures could take over RCN. Virgil Parsons seems like a guy I WANT as part of RCN. Its interesting now that hes talking to the press and slamming Verizon but you see I agree with Parsons 100%. CVC Ventures built up Hibernia Atlantic quite nicely while RCN was doing piss poorly.
Verizon FIOS is indeed neglecting Virginia and also New York City has been neglected as well as you correctly pointed out.
In my area where I live now and where I will be moving to, the only problem spot is a box left open which is a Battery Backup unit. I have to report it to the Cable co before I move in to my new place if its not fixed already. The copper doesnt matter cause its a very very short distance with 8Mbps/1Mbps, but since there are 2 Fiber providers, no need for Verizon's shitty POTS anyways.
Level 3 just merged with Broadwing so thats done and now will merge with Savvis as well.
There appears to be no more fiber being rolled out on a physical basis except for Optical Network Group which is doing a small segment in Queens and Staten Island. Teleport (now part of AT&T) finished their new metro loop. Looking Glass now part of Level 3 finished their last segment. Abovenet finished the work they did. Only carriers now rolling out new fiber are Time Warner Cable node splits or section rebuilds which are small in scope, Verizon in NYC is doing limited FIOS deployment. Still dont know what the Verizon work in my area was for, they finished one set of permits today. Next set of permits will be finished by the 26th.
For me the main thing that matters is what happens to RCN's asset since we have FIBER to the building already. Hibernia Metro is selling PNY Ethernet services on the RCN backbone in the NYC metro area. So the fiber optics in place already IS ready for full usage and everything. All that is needed is for RCN to get the finances in shape and to keep the good employees and merge with a better company. |
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bmn
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Premium,ExMod 2003-06
join:2001-03-15
hiatus
| reply to kyramilan
Re: Disgruntled Ex-Employee and former Competitor
said by kyramilan :Take with a grain of salt. Well, some of what he says is true... I've seen telcos use garbage bags to cover open slice cases until they can go back and get them closed up again... Of course, they can stay that way for awhile...
As for the politics, he's right in the regard that the telcos and the government have had a far to cozy relationship for far too long, you just can't can't rely on the objectivity of his specific examples as evidence.
But yeah, you need to take everything he says with a grain of salt, just like the Verizon PR retard they quoted in the article...
Lee Gierczynski, Verizon's manager of media relations, countered, "West Virginia's telecommunications marketplace is an increasingly competitive one, where all players face daily challenges to operate successfully and meet customers' needs. Based on that, we don't believe a newspaper article is the proper forum to discuss baseless, vague allegations. We wish Mr. Parsons well on his retirement."
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richardpor
Fur it up
join:2003-04-19
Portland, OR
| No Respect for Leeches
Fibernet is the pot that calling the kettle black. At least they started to build their own fiber. The problem is Fibernet dose not to serve the people in a capitalist system but is looking for a government contract handout. The only point Mr. Parsons speaks about is how they are losing government contracts. I never had any respect for companies whose only existence is get more government contracts. Yes, I feel to government contact process is corrupt and Fibernet will just contribute to the problem than being the solution. |
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bmn
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Premium,ExMod 2003-06
join:2001-03-15
hiatus
| reply to aj004
Re: Garbage bags are cute
said by aj004 :Level 3 just merged with Broadwing so thats done and now will merge with Savvis as well. Actually, not all of Savvis is merging with Level3, just the CDN (content delivery network) group.
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Prove it... |
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aj004
join:2006-05-28
Forest Hills, NY
| reply to richardpor
Re: No Respect for Leeches
Virgil Parson's comment's are actually relevant to New York State. See in New York State, the PSC will change hands as Governor Spitzer appoints a new PSC commissioner. This act alone will have significant implications on broadband in New York State and the competitive outlook.
I dont know who the governor is for West Virginia nor whos on the Public Service Commission. But in NY state, the voters spoke loud and clear and now changes are underway.
So for me the situation will be remedied and the equivalent here of Fibernet is RCN and for Residential Grade, RCN is a LOWER price than Verizon FIOS and the same infrastructure and in fact it has the tripleplay already in place. Once that PSC bottleneck is removed, we should get quality services from RCN or its successor. Not sure how the Fibernet team is, but with RCN they kept the con edison communications team and they are top notch folks.
But what the CEO of Fibernet said is true cause they cant get the busienss which in turn would lead to higher revenues and better quality of service for the customer. It is not an even keeled playing field in West Virginia.
However in New York state, we will see changes in 1st quarter 2007 for the better. |
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
| reply to aj004
Re: Garbage bags are cute
Backbone and long haul fiber providers are USELESS and IRRELAVENT for us BBRs. 1st thing, unless its already in your building (even if it passes infront of your building), you will pay atleast $1000 for installation, 2nd thing, your going to be paying $500 or more per month for service making Backbone/Long Hauls impracticle for us. Unless your into Servers/Web Hosting/Datacenters or bored it doesnt matter. Most ISPs buy all their transit from one backbone and thats it (usually Level 3).
RCN does offer private line fiber, which is good, but its business grade and price im sure, all we can hope is they impliment NARAD or DOCSIS 2/3, or for Apts, puts VDSL or Ethernet switch in the basement fed by HFC fiber with the apt service on its own wave length/channel on the fiber.
We need to be realistic. |
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JakCrow
join:2001-12-06
Palo Alto, CA
| reply to scrummie02
Re: Disgruntled Ex-Employee and former Competitor
Oh yeah. It's not like Verizon has a history of suckering state governments and customers out of billions of dollars on the empty promises of wide deployment of broadband services. Oh wait, it does. Nevermind... |
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jig
join:2001-01-05
Hacienda Heights, CA
| reply to kyramilan
wow two trolls on one go.
if social security fails, it'll be because of the gargantuan war debt run up by the republicans, topped off with the tax cuts.
in any event, with how many grains of salt should we take you?
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A man compounded of law and gospel is able to cheat a whole country with his religion and then destroy them under color of law. -Ben Franklin |
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footballdude
Premium
join:2002-08-13
Imperial, MO
| said by jig :if social security fails, it'll be because of the gargantuan war debt run up by the republicans, topped off with the tax cuts. What does any other spending have to do with social security? It was supposed to be a self sustaining system. Are you admitting it doesn't work and needs money from the general fund to stay alive?
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What's certain about Darwinism is that it would take less time for (1) a single-celled organism to evolve into a human being through mutation and natural selection than for (2) Darwinists to admit they have no proof of (1) - Ann Coulter |
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