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Comments on news posted 2007-01-04 12:31:24: Users in our Microsoft forum are a little annoyed that Windows Defender anti-spyware software no longer supports Windows 2000 after beta expiration, but they've found a workaround to thwart Microsoft's crippling of the software on the OS. ..

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Maxo
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IE vs FF

This is just like when websites won't let non IE users in, even though their site will run perfectly well on other browsers.

Stumbles

join:2002-12-17
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Boo hoo

Well the answer is simple. Cough up yer clams to by a new machine, cause the one you got now surely can't, that can run Vista. See, now wasn't that easy.


NJxxxJon
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 Upgrade

XP is fine for me. Vista just has neat 3d pop up windows, and some......tubular backgrounds that I dont care about. Ill upgrade with my clams later...
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en102
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join:2001-01-26
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reply to Stumbles
Re: Boo hoo

Don't forget, you also can't upgrade IE to version 7 with Windows 2000
Oh well, at least I can still run Linux off the other drive.


Maxo
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reply to Stumbles
Or recognize that the one you have works just fine, and stay put.


Trinijoy
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Yeah yeah

"UPGRADE OR DIE!" That is the Microsoft way.


kyramilan

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reply to Maxo
Re: IE vs FF

Norton 2006 and Norton 2007 deals with Spyware, Adware, Worms, etc.

Even COX HSI gives you FREE McAfee Virus, Spam, Adware, Firewall software.

Microsoft can't even put out an OS that doesn't require 500 updates.

My new laptop had XP Pro and needed 54 updates! 54! Ummm, couldn't they put all that crap on the computer BUILT on December 26th??? Oh, I'm sure HP is to blame. HP did have 2 updates to its own software from June 2006.

The reason I plunked down $1599 for the new laptop: VISTA!

itguy05

join:2005-06-17
Camp Hill, PA

Typical MS

It's Microsoft, what do you expect? They want to just force you to upgrade rather than provide a working solution.

Don't even get me started on he fiasco they are handing us with the DST issue that still run Win2k. That is - F-off. They basically are only bothering to release a patch for 2k3 and XP. The rest need to be done manually with tool and a registry hack....

The largest software company in the world can't be bother to patch a widely used OS on a widely-known about issue.

Upgrading at this point is not an option.

I'll be cheering the day MS becomes irrelevant. Think it won't happen? Just ask Lotus, Novell, Borland, IBM, etc. All once dominant players, now pretty much irrelevant.

jc1350

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reply to Maxo
from the news post...

"But they shouldn't complain when MS moves on to other OS's. It's called progress." Microsoft had announced Windows 2000 would no longer be supported two months ago"

There's a difference between "no longer supporting an OS" and purposely BREAKING it or the software that runs on it.

If there was a technical reason why it wouldn't run, then it'd be no big deal, but all it does is check to see what OS is running then it refuses to run. I call shenanigans!

patcat88

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reply to Trinijoy
Re: Yeah yeah

said by Trinijoy See Profile :

"UPGRADE OR DIE!" That is the Microsoft way.
If a OS never needed to be replaced, then would MS have any profit? Anyways, when will MS just stop these games and sell OSes by "* year long licenses"?


Sabre
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reply to jc1350
Re: from the news post...

That's a good point.

To me, "unsupported" means "We'll release stuff. We won't test it on this platform, we don't know if it'll work, we didn't even think about this platform, because it's unsupported. We have no idea WTF it will do to this *unsupported* platform. Play with it however you want, but don't come crying to us if it messes your system up, because as we told you, we don't support that platform any more. You're on your own, friends."

This seems more like "let's just set a kill bit so it can't possibly run on this old system."

Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but it seems to me that Microsoft is not paying attention to PR here. Upgrading to a newer OS may not be a bad idea, but this is not a wise way of encouraging people to do it. (No, I don't have any better ideas. But those who do are free to contribute them.)
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Re: Yeah yeah

said by patcat88 See Profile :

Anyways, when will MS just stop these games and sell OSes by "* year long licenses"?
I don't know when they will start going that route, but I know exactly when people will stop using their software...
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reply to itguy05
Re: Hack It

There is a way to hack the install file using a program called Orca which allows you to edit the .msi file. You have to change one line of code and it will then install and run on Windows 2000 fine.


Puzzled

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reply to itguy05
Re: Typical MS

I have two issues here.

One: How can you expect software that is nearing 8-9 years in age to continue to be supported, when hardware is turning over at months pace? Would you continue to use a PC from 1999? Possible, but quite unlikely.

Apples and Oranges, yes. But I'm sure you get my point.

Two: Maybe this uproar is more an issue of failure to support / provide an application to Windows 2000 users that XP users have. Either way, the real issue is this application is (for lack of better terminology) garbage.

In comparison to some of the high-rated free adware / spyware removal / prevention tools on the 'net, Windows Defender fails in comparison. The definitions are rarely updated. It does not capture items that others pick up. It has a history of conflicts with other common applications.

I guess my point is.. this issue is a non-issue.


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reply to Stumbles
Re: Boo hoo

said by Stumbles See Profile :

Well the answer is simple. Cough up yer clams to by a new machine, cause the one you got now surely can't, that can run Vista. See, now wasn't that easy.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Why should people upgrade to Vista ?? Oh, I forgot, because it's released. Well, welcome to the real world, kid... The average home PC user doesn't upgrade their OS. They run the original one their PC came with 'til they buy a new PC and very few people buy new PCs every two years or so.
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reply to Stumbles
said by Stumbles See Profile :

Well the answer is simple. Cough up yer clams to by a new machine, cause the one you got now surely can't, that can run Vista. See, now wasn't that easy.
Sure I have 500.00 but WTF would I want to spend on a POS OS!


kyramilan

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reply to itguy05
Re: Typical MS

XP was fine. Why come up with Vista? $5 billion for Vista and it's full of holes. Sounds like a Government project.

Macs aren't much better. New OS. New Mac required.

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amungus
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reply to Puzzled
Almost a non issue... agreed, but it's still a shady move.

I tried defender on 2k once, and it just flat out sucked.

Had trouble even getting the thing to install right, and I also agree that the overall usefulness was nowhere nearly as good as the 1st anti-spyware app that they ported from Giant.

Don't even use defender on XP, I could care less as there are other far more useful programs out there.

amungus
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reply to kyramilan
XP is fine...

So is 2000 for that matter. Windows 2000 still runs great after all these years, and has takes up far less room on a hard drive.


inteller
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reply to kyramilan
Re: IE vs FF

um, you dont get Mcafee for free. You get their super junky AV for free.
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