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Comments on news posted 2007-01-05 14:54:43: The other day we mentioned BitTyrant, a self-professed "selfish" BitTorrent client based on Azureus. While the new client optimizes download speeds for the individual, reports indicate it potentially harms the overall performance of the swarm. ..

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Camelot One
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Unfortunately, we now welcome this years most popular client

A Bit Torrent client that can successfully download without uploading? Yeah, this is every leecher's dream. Hopefully trackers will simply ban any clients running it.


lame

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Too scared to share, then go use newsgroups. Otherwise don't be an ass and share.


redxii
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Re: Unfortunately, we now welcome this years most popular client

Maybe that explains why I upload at full speed but only get a 400byte/second download...


Matt
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said by redxii See Profile :

Maybe that explains why I upload at full speed but only get a 400byte/second download...
Yep, if I upload but cap to say, 50% of my total upload so I can still do my normal tasks, I receive crap for download speed.

BT is nice in theory, but it sucks on an asymmetric connection. I hate it when I have to use it.
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firephoto
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'They' are always busy doing something...

If they can't successfully poison some of the networks with bad content maybe they could have success with poisoning the network with evil clients?

This is just a brain dead idea anyway so anyone that truly cared about p2p file distribution would never create such a thing. I'm guessing that "follow the money" will lead to an answer in this situation.
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Sean

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The future of BitTorrent lies in private trackers, and the best thing about those trackers is the admins can ban any client they wish to.


Logwind

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There's always someone to spoil it.

Totally lame. Every tracker should ban this leeching trash pronto.
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Re: Unfortunately, we now welcome this years most popular client

said by Matt See Profile :

said by redxii See Profile :

Maybe that explains why I upload at full speed but only get a 400byte/second download...
Yep, if I upload but cap to say, 50% of my total upload so I can still do my normal tasks, I receive crap for download speed.
But this way you can still get in trouble for spreading copyrighted content.

Now people can download as much copyrighted content as they want, with the protection of usenet and the price of bittorrent. It's win win!

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firephoto
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Re: 'They' are always busy doing something...

said by Sean See Profile :

The future of BitTorrent lies in private trackers, and the best thing about those trackers is the admins can ban any client they wish to.
The future of non-legal downloading with bittorrent lies in private trackers... maybe.

It works fine for what I use it mostly for.

Don't confuse the content with the application.
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 I think it is funny - music & video thieves whining about ..

people not playing by the rules. Go to it "Bit Thief" users. You fit right in with the lack of morality shown by most BitTorrent users.
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Re: Unfortunately, we now welcome this years most popular client

I upload at 2/3 of my 768kbit upload max. That's enough to get me close to max capacity (3mbit) down on popular torrents. Even with less popular files, I rarely get less than what I give.

I'm not sure if it made much difference but, under transfer options in Azureus, I upped the "Max number of connections per torrent default" setting significantly. I rarely dl more than one or two files at a time... so I wanted to use as much resources on those files as possible. See »www.azureuswiki.com/index.php/Ad···settings

The default per torrent is 70. The global default is 300. IIRC, I set the per torrent to 250 and the global to 500. THe additional overhead is worth it (I think) and my aging computer is not particularly laggy because of it either.
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hopeflicker
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Re: I think it is funny - music & video thieves whining about ..

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

people not playing by the rules. Go to it "Bit Thief" users. You fit right in with the lack of morality shown by most BitTorrent users.
Typical comment by our resident shrill

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said by hopeflicker See Profile :

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

people not playing by the rules. Go to it "Bit Thief" users. You fit right in with the lack of morality shown by most BitTorrent users.
Typical comment by our resident shrill
a what?


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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

people not playing by the rules. Go to it "Bit Thief" users. You fit right in with the lack of morality shown by most BitTorrent users.
These clients effect more then warez/music/movie downloads. Of course, you refuse to understand that.

patcat88

join:2002-04-05
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reply to TKJunkMail
Over 3 weeks of seeding, I get a share ratio of 22, yet there still is only 0-2 seeds. Now I just
"block upload" if a peer has more than 70%, or if its a BitComet, "Kick Ban" since it defeats "block upload". If I stop giving the peer data they will have to sit around and try to negotitate with other peers (who can get pieces from me cuz they arent 70% yet) for data, which includes some trading action. I wish there was a feature where I can limit the speed of each peer I am uploading to (I am seed) to 1 or 2 kBps, if I have 5 peers, I upload 5kBps on that torrent, 20 peers, 20kBps. It forces peers to stay around and do some "torrent action" rather than use me as a file server. Also, peers should ask peers "what IPs can I talk to check that you are uploading since I dont trust a word you say?". Leechers and 99% of internet users wont have multiple public IPs to run fake peers that say "he uploaded 50 gigs to me" to get downloads for the leecher peer.


AtlGuy

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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

people not playing by the rules. Go to it "Bit Thief" users. You fit right in with the lack of morality shown by most BitTorrent users.
Some people like myself use BitTorrent (although not very much) and don't download/upload copyright material, but thanks for labeling me a thief.


hopeflicker
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Let me elaborate for ya:
Typical comment by our resident corporate shrill.

plat2on1

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said by hopeflicker See Profile :

Let me elaborate for ya:
Typical comment by our resident corporate shrill.
again i ask a what?


DreamWraith
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reply to AtlGuy
Where exactly did he label you a thief? If you are referring to his comment about morality, he only referenced *most* BT users, not *all. The only other way I can see you thinking he called you a thief is if YOU are using BitThief, in which case you can kindly gtfo and stfu.


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reply to plat2on1
I think he means shill.

Someone needs to ask him how long he's been on the RIAA/
MPAA payroll. That ought to be the standard response when
any anti-p2p troll chimes in.
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