tacoma
Bleeding Dodger Blue
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join:2001-05-18
Riverside, CA
1 edit | Big deal
Who cares?
300 people without fiber OH NO!
Thousands loose their cooper lines and have no phone service daily.
Where are their backup cell phones?
This sounds like anti-fiber propaganda, OR anti-AT&T vomit. |
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verolom
join:2002-03-23
Eagleville, PA
 ·Comcast
| Not the AT&T of yore
I recognize the scale and complexity of AT&T's network, but what happened to 99.999% availability, disaster recovery, SONET rings, n to n redundancy, FASTAR, etc, etc.
Oh wait, I know. All the people that used to make all this work are now gone. GONE! It doesn't matter how automated the network is, it needs people to run it. |
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RadioDoc
58ef2c0
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join:2000-05-11
 ·AT&T Midwest
| Inaccurate
First off, the cable cut in Naperville is a good old-fashioned garden-variety copper-hit-with-construction-equipment outage. How this is relevant to fiber only the editor knows.
Second, "[t]he outage occurred around noon Thursday after a third-party contractor cut through cables while working on an electrical upgrade project" implies that this was Naperville's municipal-owned electric company's fault. I hope that AT&T sends Naperville a bit fat bill for the repair.
Lastly, nowhere in the cited Naperville Sun story is there any substantiation for the claim that "companies will have to work harder to meet the emergency telecommunications needs of their customers". AT&T is doing what they always do...provide either 911-only wireless phones for small outages (which this is) or trailers with phones parked in affected areas for larger outages. They've also made the wireless phones available to Naperville police for distribution.
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RadioDoc
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join:2000-05-11 | reply to verolom
Re: Not the AT&T of yore
This is not a fiber cut...
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ColorBASIC
8-bit Fun
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Corona, CA
1 edit | This isn't news
Service outages in all utilities happen and shockingly there is always at least 1 person somewhere who has a utility down.
What's next? A DSLR article about 8 people at a bowling alley suffering a beer tap outage? Then again, it's the NFL playoffs and a beer outage could be considered a major problem. |
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Austinloop
join:2001-08-19
Austin, TX
| reply to tacoma
Re: Big deal
Well, having read the newspaper article link, it mentions cut wires, not fiber, so what is it? copper or fiber?
As for digging in rainy conditions, and trying to keep from having the excavation cave in, should the workers go ahead without protection and then get buried by a cave in? |
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ColorBASIC
8-bit Fun
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join:2006-12-29
Corona, CA
| reply to tacoma
said by tacoma  :This sounds like anti-fiber propaganda, OR anti-AT&T vomit. More like a slow news day. |
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ColorBASIC
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Corona, CA
1 edit | reply to verolom
Re: Not the AT&T of yore
Well considering this is 200 (since 100 are already back up) of how many million? 99.999% doesn't seem too far off.
Meanwhile no network, whether electricity, water, or information technology can defend itself from construction workers tearing up infrastructure or other accident.
Again, this is only 200 customers, not 200,000. A car crashing into a cable box on the street or into a telephone pole would bring down more customers.
This isn't news other than touting the reliablility of service such that such a small outage makes news. |
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manfmmd
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Earth
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1 edit | reply to verolom
Please provide a source where residential customers with no SLA are guaranteed "five 9's" reliability. 
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hayabusa3303
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1 edit | reply to ColorBASIC
Re: Big deal
said by ColorBASIC :said by tacoma :This sounds like anti-fiber propaganda, OR anti-AT&T vomit. More like a slow news day. Sundays are always slow 
Edit no punt intended on Karl or KathrynV Part. they do there job very good .  |
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Evil_Icon
Digital Pimp
join:2003-02-24
Bossier City, LA | reply to ColorBASIC
Re: This isn't news
I agree with Tacoma 100%. |
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roamer1
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join:2001-03-24
Atlanta, GA
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Re: Big deal
said by Austinloop :Well, having read the newspaper article link, it mentions cut wires, not fiber, so what is it? copper or fiber? Sounds like copper...a fiber cut normally affects a lot more than 350 subs.
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JTRockville
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join:2002-01-28
Rockville, MD
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Re: Not the AT&T of yore
Maybe it wasn't a written-in-stone guarantee? Five 9's reliability is expected unless you are in a developing nation. |
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hayabusa3303
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| reply to ColorBASIC
Re: This isn't news
said by ColorBASIC : Then again, it's the NFL playoffs Dont get the wife started on that it was funny last night i got on the computer and the wife watched the game. Talk about some new cuss words i wrote them down |
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manfmmd
Premium
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Earth
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Re: Not the AT&T of yore
People "expect" too much. |
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Persona
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Gravenhurst, ON | reply to roamer1
Re: Big deal
Interesting comment...we all know that it was originally put in for its huge carrying capacity and not its robustness. So what are they doing, running it everywhere now?
Better to keep it well protected as trunk. |
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JTRockville
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Rockville, MD
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Re: Not the AT&T of yore
People expect reliability, because that's what we're used to.
What happened? When did we lose "developed nation" status? |
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smcallah
join:2004-08-05
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| said by JTRockville :What happened? When did we lose "developed nation" status? When did we get arbitrary reasons for five "9s" availability? |
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manfmmd
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We haven't, but I find it unreasonable to expect that there will NEVER be an outage and am slightly offended with people that take the "sky is falling" mentality when there is an outage. What did people ever do before 911, cell phones, cable TV, and other such "services" before they existed? The answer is, they managed to survive.
Maybe people need to get up once in a while and take a walk and stop worrying so damn much about everything.
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JTRockville
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Rockville, MD
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1 edit | Most of us weren't alive when there was no phone service.
And those that did manage to survive back then, did so for a much reduced life span.
Perhaps you should take the walk. Me? I'll take reliable services and developed nation status. No more excuses. |
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