  ChiyoSave Me Konata-ChanPremium
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kudos:1 | Wait and see how long does it take for Tivo to port over their software or even go as far as bringing out a better box. I'm just hoping the same thing I Had to deal with when I had Directv and a Directivo where we were cut off from all the features normal Tivo subs got to.
It'll be great when it does happen though I dislike Comcast's current set of DVRS, I have problems all the time when rewinding where it's slow but when I fast forward it doesn't stop!
When I had Tivo everything just worked great.
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kudos:1 | Re: Wait and see I've had problems with my Comcast DVR as well. Sometimes, a show doesn't record (it shows up as being there and being the correct length, but cuts out about 5 min in).
I also get some sound issues with my Comcast DVR. Frequently, I'll be watching a recorded show and the sound will cut out.
And don't get me started on pixelization on high def programs..
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Mount Airy, MD | Difference? How are these different from the Comcast HD dual tuner DVR boxes that they currently offer?
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| | | Re: Difference? Well, as the article suggests, the primary difference is that they will be running TiVO's superior software interface. | |
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| | fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
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kudos:3 | Re: Difference? Tivo's "superior software"... Interesting... the software is only going to be as good as the hardware which is only going to be as good as the software.
What if Tivo's software is pushed out to consumers that request it and once on the box, it turns out to be buggier than the current software?
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perhaps my words were a bit forgiving. next time i will be sure to say "inferior" instead, to be sure to make you happy.
by calling tivo's software superior, it is not to say that this iteration is necessarily going to run perfectly.
It is to suggest that Tivo's software is superior in function, not necessarily form or technicality. Please note I did say tivos superior INTERFACE and not simply superior "software". Interface was the qualifying word here.
Anyone who has used a standalone tivo, or one of the older direct tv tivo's will undoubtedly say that they prefer both the interface and functionality of tivo software over the poorly carried out iguide, or for us in Washington, the buggy, and at times, infuriating Microsoft TV Foundation.
Let us also not forget that the motorola boxes are using a very similar operating platform as the series 3 tivos. They both share the same CPU, the primary differences being in the memory/ram loadout, and accessory packages. The motorola boxes have less memory than a series 3 tivo.
In any case, I am sure you *knew* what I meant when i said superior. But as usual, you thought it in your best interest to drive down to the unlikely interpretation and choose to accept that as the message i was posting.
Your choice i suppose. For everyone else: I am NOT saying that the TIVO software will necessarily have less bugs/run more reliably than iguide/mstv, I am simply stating that, if past experience can be beleived, most people find the tivo interface, and the tivo functionality to be superior to that of iguide/mstv | |
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kudos:3 | Re: Difference? No.. I think you went into it too far. My point was that it sounded like you were making "tivo" out to be a hero in DVR software.
I was trying to point out that the hardware has much to do with the success of any software that runs on it. Just like the windows operating system. Put XP on some machines and it crashes and looks buggy. Put it on another machine with better hardware and it runs with out a lick of problems.
Personally, I do realize that the software on the moto boxes by iGuide is not the greatest. It works for my use. However, I personally enjoy the guide on my Media Center 2005 systems MUCH better.
Personlly.. I'm not a huge fan of Tivo either. MCE2005 is great as it connects to the internet live for extended data, art, and other information.
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| | pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD | said by DreamWraith:Well, as the article suggests, the primary difference is that they will be running TiVO's superior software interface. Hmmm... maybe I was asking the wrong question. Ok... what would the Comcast Tivo box do for me that the current Comcast HD Dual DVR box does not do?
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***Hmmm... maybe I was asking the wrong question. Ok... what would the Comcast Tivo box do for me that the current Comcast HD Dual DVR box does not do?***
Well, aside from an overall easier-to-use interface, and what tends to be a more reliable and robust program listing/description system, you also gain some of tivo's more advances features. What most consider to be tivos "defining" feature is their program suggestions system. The tivo software tracks what you record/watch, and will suggest other programs you might enjoy as well. When you have 300+ channels, this can become very usefull, as there tends to be many programs you would enjoy, but dont ever see/watch, because they are barried in the mass of listings.
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| | | | | | Re: Difference? Ability to network and transfer shows to a PC or schedule recordings from a browser?
As a Comcast customer who once had Dish.. the Comcast iGuide is a really poor ugly interface. | |
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| | | | | | | Re: Difference? Yes those too. I almost forgot about them :P. | |
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| said by pnh102:said by DreamWraith:Well, as the article suggests, the primary difference is that they will be running TiVO's superior software interface. Hmmm... maybe I was asking the wrong question. Ok... what would the Comcast Tivo box do for me that the current Comcast HD Dual DVR box does not do? Work ?
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Mount Airy, MD | Re: Difference? said by BosstonesOwn:said by pnh102:Hmmm... maybe I was asking the wrong question. Ok... what would the Comcast Tivo box do for me that the current Comcast HD Dual DVR box does not do? Work ? When I had Comcast prior to living in Mount Airy, I never had a problem with the HD and/or DVR service at all. I have the same box with Adelphia and the only problem I currently have is the On-Demand doesn't work correctly. As for the interface, I don't see it being very hard to use... I just press the "Record" button on the programs I want to record and they record.
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| said by pnh102:what would the Comcast Tivo box do for me that the current Comcast HD Dual DVR box does not do? We've got 30 days experience with the Comcast Motorola 6412 dual-tuner and have a love/hate relationship. Great HD picture but the DVR has too many software problems and this unit has the latest software. On the other hand no problems with Tivo after 4 years. Here are a few issues we are experiencing:
- lose sound while playing recordings (both live buffer and recordings) but can be recovered by a quick rewind/fast forward
- fails to record the entire show
- hard drive 21% full (3 hours HDTV), started recording show and within 10 minutes it claimed drive was full and forced us to delete a recording before continuing to use DVR
- small hard drive and currently no way to expand using eSATA, FW or USB ports on back of unit (yes I know about connecting a computer via FW)
This box has been in the market for 2 years, bugs this fundamental should have been worked out by now. And I'm conveniently overlooking how well Tivo works compared to Comcast box (e.g. 'loose power and loose programming guide for 12-24 hours').
We've left our Tivo connected so we don't lose shows that the Comcast box is suppose to record. I guess the apologists can say 'its good enough' but right now the box works like Win98.
While I hope Tivo software on the Motorola 6412 fixes the problem, that remains to be seen as I haven't used Tivo Series 2 dual-tuner or the Series 3. Assuming Tivo Series 3 works well then I give good odds that Tivo on Comcast's Motorola DVR will bring sanity back to our TV. | |
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join:2006-12-29
Corona, CA | Wonder if they'll include all the spam The amount of banner ads on my Series 2 is getting to be quite a bit. I wonder if the Comcast unit will be flooded with similar ads. | |
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|  DanHoModerhatedPremium
join:2002-05-20
Seattle, WA | Re: Wonder if they'll include all the spam If you look in the Comcast Cable TV forums you will see plenty of complaints from people regarding ads on the guide.
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Fargo, ND | Re: Wonder if they'll include all the spam said by DanHo:If you look in the Comcast Cable TV forums you will see plenty of complaints from people regarding ads on the guide. it is one ad..... | |
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Seattle, WA | Re: Wonder if they'll include all the spam said by Loker:said by DanHo:If you look in the Comcast Cable TV forums you will see plenty of complaints from people regarding ads on the guide. it is one ad..... So, there are still plenty of complaints about it. That was my only point.
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fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
join:2005-05-20
kudos:3 | Promised?? "We've been promised a Comcast and Tivo integration for quite some time, but the deal was uh -- time shifted"
This thread cracks me up. Where were you "promised" anything? This announcement was made at the end of 2004 beginning of 2005. That was JUST the announcement that a partnership was going to be formed to allow Tivo software to the Comcast consumer over existing hardware.
Tell me, when has something like this been done before where a product which is normally produced hardware and software wise from the same company is going to be offered as a software only push to existing hardware? It's been 2 years since an announcement was made that a deal had been in the works to make this happen.
The first line in the paragraph above, I assume by Karl, states that "we've been *promised*... for *quite some time*..." What the heck are you expecting? That when an announcement is made that it should be produced in 30 days? how about 6 months? Maybe 12?
I'm beginning to think that some people around here have NO clue on what it takes to make something like this happen. It's more than just software on a box. It's Tivo, which normally makes software for hardware that is already their specs, and Comcast, a company that has MANY components in place to make the entire system work.. working together. There's the motorola settop hardware itself, there's CSG, Cabledata and Icoms billing systems that have to come into play.. there are box controllers.. etc.
Look at how long it took for the new guide to get pushed out to the non DVR boxes... AND THEY WERE ALL MOTO BOXES TO BEGIN WITH! That software had to be pulled back as well for bugs.. and I repeat.. the guide we see today was ALREADY ON MOTO BOXES! In order to push it out to non-DVR moto equipment, there were issues that took almost 12 months to correct.
I don't get it.. first of all, you were NOT promised anything for "quite some time"... show me one piece of evidence where you were "promised" and "when" it would be released. Second, what would you like? Another rush to market product so you have more fuel to add to your fire?
Really Karl... there is a reason why some things have no firm dates... if you knew ANYTHING about programming and bringing products to market, you'd know now WHY many corporations don't like to give a firm date at the initial press release. They also normally always say things like "hope to see" and "potentially available to the market.." however, with that, I can see how you would turn that into a definite promise. And, when a delay is announced, I think that COMPLETELY erases any previous launch date.
So, you should re-think how you post your bias and out of line "news" items.
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| | | Re: Promised?? And here i will agree with you FG. Comcast never publicized or promised any release date. The only thing ever to hit the waves of the internets were rumors and speculation, mostly sourced from this very website. | |
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