GilbertMark
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Gilbert, AZ | Excellent!
So which label will be next? |
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trparky
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1 edit | Consumer Demand for non-DRM online music?
Obviously they haven't seen this web site.
But, even if they do offer non-DRMed music on the Internet, what will stop Joe Sixpack from giving that MP3 file to his buddy? |
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Mchart
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| said by trparky  :Obviously they haven't seen this web site. But, even if they do offer non-DRMed music on the Internet, what will stop Joe Sixpack from giving that MP3 file to his buddy? Joe Sixpack doesnt even know how to give said MP3 file to his buddy. |
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jcnj38
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Madisonville, KY
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| RE: CD DRM
Several studios recently noted they were "experimenting" with offering music in the unprotected MP3 format to "see if there is consumer demand."
Well, duhhh. How about the millions of us that have a cheapie mp3 player and would like to take our music with us? I pay a monthly fee to a music subscriber and all I can do with it is, listen to it on my computer. I cannot copy it to my mp3 player due to the files being protected.
Wake up industry!!
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brooklynman4
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Brooklyn, NY | Theres aways and will be a work around for everything so dont worry. |
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trparky
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Re: Consumer Demand for non-DRM online music?
said by Mchart :said by trparky :Obviously they haven't seen this web site. But, even if they do offer non-DRMed music on the Internet, what will stop Joe Sixpack from giving that MP3 file to his buddy? Joe Sixpack doesnt even know how to give said MP3 file to his buddy. Man are you cynical.
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Boomerang86
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clubs: | What's the point?
CD players are going the way of VHS, with iPods and other portable digital music players now the dominant form of personal music enjoyment.
Too little, too late IMHO.
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Mchart
Super Joe
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| reply to trparky
Re: Consumer Demand for non-DRM online music?
said by trparky :said by Mchart :said by trparky :Obviously they haven't seen this web site. But, even if they do offer non-DRMed music on the Internet, what will stop Joe Sixpack from giving that MP3 file to his buddy? Joe Sixpack doesnt even know how to give said MP3 file to his buddy. Man are you cynical. Its true. Do you know a single 'average joe' american who actually knows how to share a file online? |
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SRFireside
join:2001-01-19
Houston, TX | reply to trparky
That's happening regardless of whether or not they use DRM on music downloads. The fact that many legitimate buyers are getting ticked off with the restrictions put on DRM downloads I think the choice is obvious. |
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GilbertMark
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Gilbert, AZ
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| reply to Mchart
said by Mchart :Its true. Do you know a single 'average joe' american who actually knows how to share a file online? He's right, the typical computer owner is a moron. Always has been, and usually always will be. It's only those with a brain and who try to learn new things by reading and thinking who get anywhere with a computer. These are the same people who still have a flashing "12:00" on their damn VCR.
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tmc8080
join:2004-04-24
Floral Park, NY | take a hint!
TAKE A HINT:
BLUE RAY
HD DVD
ARE NEXT???!!! |
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Maxo
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join:2002-11-04
Tallahassee, FL
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Re: Consumer Demand for non-DRM online music?
said by GilbertMark :the typical computer owner is a moron. Always has been, and usually always will be. It's only those with a brain and who try to learn new things by reading and thinking who get anywhere with a computer. These are the same people who still have a flashing "12:00" on their damn VCR. Yep, non-computer savy people are D-U-M-B dumb. |
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Gardener
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Burnaby, BC | Another marketing opportunity
"Certified DRM-free" - conspicuously on each CD case - perhaps with instructions on how to rip the CD? DVD? HD-DVD? |
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compton
join:2002-02-08
Brooklyn, NY
| reply to trparky
Re: Consumer Demand for non-DRM online music?
said by trparky :Obviously they haven't seen this web site. But, even if they do offer non-DRMed music on the Internet, what will stop Joe Sixpack from giving that MP3 file to his buddy? There is very little stopping Joe Sixpack from sharing his mp3 collection now. |
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Jason Levine
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join:2001-07-13
USA
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Really, nothing. But even with DRMed music, all it takes is one person to crack the DRM and upload the unprotected music to a P2P group. Joe Sixpack might not give it to his friend directly, but his friend would still be able to get a copy.
All DRM does is place a speed bump in the path of the pirates (not a road block like the record companies would like to believe).
Putting DRM on a CD to stop Internet piracy only winds up as a headache for the person who legitimately buys the content and wants to use it in legal manners. (For example, ripping it to MP3 to place on their MP3 player.) |
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halfband
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Huntsville, AL
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said by Mchart :Its true. Do you know a single 'average joe' american who actually knows how to share a file online? But if you change that to americans from 12-18 years of age I bet the numbers are pretty high.
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Jason Levine
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USA
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Re: What's the point?
The good thing about CDs (as opposed to a purchase from iTunes, for example) is that you can rip your audio in your format of choice, at your bitrate of choice, be assured that it will work in your digital music player, and not have any DRM get in your way. Plus, you have a built-in backup in case your digital files get ruined somehow. (e.g. Hard drive crash.) |
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thender2
Glamour Profession
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join:2004-05-16
Staten Island, NY
1 edit | reply to GilbertMark
Re: Consumer Demand for non-DRM online music?
said by GilbertMark :said by Mchart :Its true. Do you know a single 'average joe' american who actually knows how to share a file online? He's right, the typical computer owner consumer is a moron. Always has been, and usually always will be. It's only those with a brain and who try to learn new things by reading and thinking who get anywhere with a computer. These are the same people who still have a flashing "12:00" on their damn VCR. Corrected. 
They believe a cheap 15 lbs box is a 500 watt receiver. They use composite video to hook up their HDTV. They buy a dell and ejaculate over their cheap pretty LCD and wonder why it dies when their HD goes to 80c because of poor case design. They
There are hobbyists, tweakers, and consumers. You can be all three at once. A consumer with electronics, a tweaker with cars, and a hobbyist for real estate, whatever. But most people are consumers in more areas than hobbyists/tweakers, so they will be idiots and take whatever they're sold, even if it is overpriced, low quality DRMed music.
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Mchart
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| reply to halfband
said by halfband :said by Mchart :Its true. Do you know a single 'average joe' american who actually knows how to share a file online? But if you change that to americans from 12-18 years of age I bet the numbers are pretty high. Meh. I know A LOT of people in aforementioned age range that are just as hopeless with computers. |
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Mchart
Super Joe
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Re: What's the point?
said by Jason Levine :The good thing about CDs (as opposed to a purchase from iTunes, for example) is that you can rip your audio in your format of choice, at your bitrate of choice, be assured that it will work in your digital music player, and not have any DRM get in your way. Plus, you have a built-in backup in case your digital files get ruined somehow. (e.g. Hard drive crash.) Not to mention the choices are slim for sites that offer 1.4mbps .wav downloads. I have yet to see a *major* service like itunes offer as high quality as CD downloads. |
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