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Comments on news posted 2007-01-12 09:21:50: Democrats will be taking a closer look at the FCC as one of their first orders of business after taking control of the House and Senate. ..

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Rob
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Many Changes at the FCC...

1) Remove the Chairman. The guy is a waste of our money.
2) Increase what is classified as "broadband" from 200kbps to at least 1.5mbps.
3) Redefine how the FCC determines if an area is broadband serviced by making it that at least 50% of a zip code qualifies for broadband.

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1) Agreed.
2) 2 at the minimum would be nice, I'll settle for 1 for now.
3) What is the current requirement? I've not heard much on it.
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said by Rob See Profile :

1) Remove the Chairman. The guy is a waste of our money.
They have no power to do so. In fact, the Dems signed off on Martin when he was reappointed.

If the Dems want to do something about the FCC, they should pass new laws. The trouble would be getting a veto-proof version thru the Senate. And w/o Repub concurrence on the new laws, that won't happen.
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Perhaps the Democrats can push for a law that prevents the FCC from having any jurisdiction over American Samoa

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TV for Telco's seems fair to me

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Of primary interest is the FCC's recent telco-friendly decision to ease the rules governing telco entry into the TV space,

Was there any complaints about the cable co's moving into data and pots? (other than telco's ofcourse) Telco's getting into TV seems fair to me. You folks are always all about plenty of competition.


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Re: Many Changes at the FCC...

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3) What is the current requirement? I've not heard much on it.
According to the FCC, if 1 person in a zip code qualifies for broadband, then the entire zip code is considered to be broadband ready.
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said by Rob See Profile :

1) Remove the Chairman. The guy is a waste of our money.
They have no power to do so. In fact, the Dems signed off on Martin when he was reappointed.

If the Dems want to do something about the FCC, they should pass new laws. The trouble would be getting a veto-proof version thru the Senate. And w/o Repub concurrence on the new laws, that won't happen.
I know, it's wishful thinking.
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That's just ridiculous...


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said by MASantangelo See Profile :

That's just ridiculous...
Yep.
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nasadude

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it doesn't really matter

it doesn't matter who is in the majority on the FCC or in congress, what needs to be done will not be done for years, if ever.

and what needs to be done is for congress to force telcos to open up the last mile for use to any vendor that wants to provide service. there should be severe financial and other penalties for any incumbent that prevents or hinders anyone else providing services over last mile infrastructure. THIS MUST INCLUDE THE FIBER CURRENTLY BEING BUILT.

the telco lobbies are way too strong and the congress still too oblivious to the need for real competition in broadband for this too happen anytime soon. that means the U.S. will continue to fall behind the rest of the developed world until a viable, last mile wireless solution becomes available to compete against the wired last mile stranglehold of the ILECs.

in the meantime, get used to expensive, slow (by developed world standards) broadband with little or no new innovations or improvements.


SRFireside

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Re: Many Changes at the FCC...

1) Agreed. We need someone with some real open-ended experience in the field.

2) Sorry to spoil it for ya, but 256k and up should still be considered broadband (albeit the slowest). The differences in speed between dialup and ISDN over that is quite noticeable. Plus 256k has been an offering for broadband for well over a decade, and not just from DSL. Fractional T1 lines and cable broadband are still offering this. Keep in mind most things done on the web are just as fast at 256k as they are for 6Mb.

3) Also agree. Maybe a slightly smaller percentage like 40% to give a fair compromise, but no more one-house-entire-zip-code tricks.


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said by Rob See Profile :

said by MASantangelo See Profile :

3) What is the current requirement? I've not heard much on it.
According to the FCC, if 1 person in a zip code qualifies for broadband, then the entire zip code is considered to be broadband ready.
I've seen this fact quoted often here in these BBR news items, but I have never seen it on the FCC web site. Does anyone have a link verifying this claim.
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there should be severe financial and other penalties for any incumbent that prevents or hinders anyone else providing services over last mile infrastructure. THIS MUST INCLUDE THE FIBER CURRENTLY BEING BUILT.
We've already seen the results of this policy in action. Phone companies which are required to share their copper networks with competitors are simply not building out these networks anymore.

Cable companies, which are not subject to these restrictions, were able to expand their networks as they saw fit.

The only reason AT&T and Verizon are investing in a completely new fiber-based network is because of the lack of regulation. Imposing a sharing requirement will kill any incentive for cable and/or phone companies to expand their networks. This is an undisputed, irrefutable fact.
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Re: Many Changes at the FCC...

and watch how quickly, just by raising the bandwidth rate from 200k to 1.5m, how many zip codes suddenly DON'T have access to "broadband."

I think that would be very telling...we may actually start to get a "closer to real" view of where we stand. Granted if only one person in the zip could get 1.5 down, you're still going to see misrepresentation, but it would be a start.

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»hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/a···93A1.pdf

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»hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/a···93A1.pdf

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THANKS.

But I believe this statistic quoted in the same report is more relevant than 99% of ZipCodes have broadband stat.

As a nationwide average, we estimate that high-speed DSL connections were available to 78% of the households to whom incumbent LECs could provide local telephone service as of December 31, 2005, and that high-speed cable modem service was available to 93% of the households to whom cable system operators could provide cable TV service.

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clecssuck

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Re: it doesn't really matter

Would you build a new garage if you had to let your neighbor use it too???

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Re: Many Changes at the FCC...

"As a nationwide average, we estimate that high-speed DSL connections were available to 78% of the households to whom incumbent LECs could provide local telephone service as of December 31, 2005, and that high-speed cable modem service was available to 93% of the households to whom cable system operators could provide cable TV service."

Sounds like this fairy tale is based on 200kbps "broadband", and if that's all you believe is needed, then, as in your myopically pedantic world, the Telco line is all you need to tow.

Skippy25

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reply to SRFireside
"Keep in mind most things done on the web are just as fast at 256k as they are for 6Mb."

Really? I certainly notice that I get my email, webpages, and downloads much quicker over a 3mb connection than I do over a 1mb connection.

Or wait, is email, web surfing, and downloads not still considered "most things" done on the web?

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Re: it doesn't really matter

"Would you build a new garage if you had to let your neighbor use it too???"

As long as he was paying reasonable rent, why not?
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