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Comments on news posted 2007-01-16 18:03:22: We've seen conflicting reports that proclaim varying degrees of cable plant capacity crunch, in varying degrees of apocalyptic severity. ..

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exocet_cm
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 Ouch!

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Perhaps the money spent on analyst reports should go toward infrastructure upgrades?
But so true!
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nasadude

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google will pay for it!

aren't they just going to charge google, yahoo, etc. to pay for these upgrades?

that seems to be the business model touted by the telcos - heaven forbid they actually lay out any of their own money and take a risk.


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Perhaps in some areas...

... but in others there seems to be an abundance of available bandwidth.

Read up on PowerBoost, then do a search here(in Comcast HSI) for PermaBoost.

Instead of getting the first few MB at wild speeds and then tapering back to rated service line speed, some of us are seeing wild downloads for entire multi-hundred(thousand?) MB downloads.

The main problem seems to be finding sources to utilize these speeds.

Of course, YMMV.
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said by dadkins See Profile :

... but in others there seems to be an abundance of available bandwidth.

Read up on PowerBoost, then do a search here(in Comcast HSI) for PermaBoost.

Instead of getting the first few MB at wild speeds and then tapering back to rated service line speed, some of us are seeing wild downloads for entire multi-hundred(thousand?) MB downloads.

The main problem seems to be finding sources to utilize these speeds.

Of course, YMMV.
My Milage DOES Indeed Vary.. no *Boost here at all. Can't wait for DOCSIS 3 to arrive.
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reply to dadkins
The sweet spot in infrastructure upgrades for cable may be in FTTC. They already are using fiber extensively to sub developments and other housing groupings. They could use their existing rights of way to upgrade to the curb without huge investments. And then coax from the curb or pole to inside the house since that connection is already there. That combination along with Docsis-3 should keep them in the game for many years yet.
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deadi
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Yep,

I'd have to say there is a crunch based on what my friends with cable are stating. There are times when playing a game becomes impossible due to high and wildy fluctuating ping, most likely caused by over saturated cable. I dont have that problem with DSL.
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Its already here

Bears have let loose on the the cable infrastructure.


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reply to deadi
Re: Yep,

said by deadi See Profile :

I'd have to say there is a crunch based on what my friends with cable are stating. There are times when playing a game becomes impossible due to high and wildy fluctuating ping, most likely caused by over saturated cable. I dont have that problem with DSL.
ahh, brings back memories of the @home days.
Try to play some Turok 2 and cant because of the 500ms pings.


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The Next telecommunications boom?

Sounds like its going to happen again. Not only with teleco but with cable.

I should invest more in fiber


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Re: Perhaps in some areas...

That sucks!
It's not all roses though... I only know of a couple places that can push the killer speeds.
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Re: Its already here

Someones hungry for more bandwidth

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reply to nasadude
Re: google will pay for it!

You know you're posting in a cable discussion, right?

op

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Wait

If cable co's do fiber strait to the home then what happens if there is fiber already in the home a la Fios? I don't want 2 pieces of fiber from 2 different companies when 1 piece of fiber is doing enough.

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Re: Its already here

Must of been hired by the telcos' .


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reply to op
Re: Wait

said by op See Profile :

If cable co's do fiber strait to the home then what happens if there is fiber already in the home a la Fios? I don't want 2 pieces of fiber from 2 different companies when 1 piece of fiber is doing enough.
why not? its the same width as coaxial, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Plus cable companies aren't going to run fiber to your home anytime soon anyway.
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Time Warner Cable is only saveing 50 % cause they downgraded all users when they change over from adelphia
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Re: google will pay for it!

said by RadioDoc See Profile :

You know you're posting in a cable discussion, right?
as a matter of fact, I do. you know I'm being sarcastic, right?

besides, just because the cablecos haven't been stupid enough to publicly announce their desire for a two-tier internet doesn't mean they don't share that viewpoint (you know, the one where Whitacre says google, etc. should be charged more so the network can be upgraded).


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HDTV and Internet Access

While their are several techniques to get more out of the HFC network a 850Mhz Cable system only has about 6Gbps of capacity assuming everything becomes digital. Much of the capacity is consumed by analog TV channels that will not be going away any time soon.

6Gbps sounds like a lot but that is gross capability to the Node. Nodes typically support over 100 customers. Switching helps reduce the amount of bandwidth needed to deliver broadcast TV if not all channels are actively being viewed.

As HDTV becomes more popular, as video on demand becomes more popular, and as demand for faster Internet access occurs it is crunch time for the HFC network.

/Tom


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Re: Perhaps in some areas...

Bingo. They're both right! It just depends on where you look.

As for my area, we've been traded to TW/RR and I'm actually sad to see Comcast go. However, with all the cable ISPs that've come through here, I've always gotten my full provisioned speed. Never called a single one of em on slow throughput. No bandwidth crunch here! (yet. Should be upgraded to 7 or even 10 Mbps soon. We'll see how that goes.)
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reply to ninjatutle
Re: Its already here

Next DSLR article...FiOS workers dressed as bears purposely destroy cable infrastructure.
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