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Comments on news posted 2007-01-19 18:18:49: We recently interviewed Drew Clark of the Center For Public Integrity, whose organization is working on a massive database that tracks who owns the media outlets in your neighborhood. ..

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Happi

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Data?

First -- why would anyone even trust FCC data?

Second, it would be far more reliable to work with the National Assoc. of Mayors to ask their local franchise authorities to report on the broadband providers.

Third -- we should assume we're talking only about infrastructure owners right? I mean that's really the bottom line about who gets broadband -- or not.


ninjatutle
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Drew Clark

of the Center For Public Integrity. Please release how much your salary is, your homes value, your wife weight, your childrens report card, the contents of your fridge....

sjr

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Wow. Not even in the same ballpark comparison there.

I dont see one negative in showing the public this research data. How is not knowing where service is provided or not provided bad? Sounds more like certain entities maybe have something they want to hide.


Rob
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of the Center For Public Integrity. Please release how much your salary is, your homes value, your wife weight, your childrens report card, the contents of your fridge....
What are you talking about?
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krayzie bone

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exactly; what do they have to hide? Oh wait, maybe the USF will be shown for what it truly is. hmmm.....

RayW
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Yeah, it might give some power to lawsuits overturning the welfare laws that prohibit communities from building and running their own systems?
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Michieru2
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Hmm

Maybe in the next Census they should put a little check mark saying if the customer has or does not have high speed internet of at least 1.5mbps or higher.
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Erwin_D

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"Competative harm"?

Surely, they mean "Monopolative harm".


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said by Michieru2 See Profile :

Maybe in the next Census they should put a little check mark saying if the customer has or does not have high speed internet of at least 1.5mbps or higher.
Now that is a good idea.
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ninjatutle
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Drew Clark

de Centro para la integridad pública. Lanzar por favor cuánto es tu sueldo, tu valor de la casa, tu peso de la esposa, tu tarjeta del informe de los childrens, el contenido de tu refrigerador.

PDXPLT

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Freedom of Information Act == A Very Good Thing

It's been used by all sides of the political spectrum to bring some sunshine into the inner workings of Federal Gov't agencies.

Of course the FCC will fight this tooth and nail. If this information reveals that broadband deployment is in fact not going well in the USA, the 1996 Telecomm Act requires them to take "drastic act". And that's something Martin and the other laissez faire ideologues running the Commission are not wont to do.

I saw Martin speak at CES. I thought, "Man, he's awful young for someone so powerful". I thought of the criticism often directed at the current administration that they often choose people based more on ideological purity (a la the old Soviet Union) rather than managerial ability and experience (can anyone say, "Brownie, you're doin' a heck of a job"?). And the scuttlebutt in D.C. is that Martin is extremely politically ambitious. This also means he is loathe to do anything to piss off companies he'll be dependent on for commercial time, favorable reporting, and $$$ come campaign time.

The other thing I noticed, of course, was his fervent philosophy that 100% laissez faire policies will automatically solve all telecomm issues; those instances of market failure we all heard so much about in economics class was just something the professors made up.


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.

I've got municipal water, sewer and Aquila natural gas available at my address yet the mighty AT&T still can't deliver DSL, not that I'd want to downgrade from Comcast HSI.

So where are all those USF dollars going?
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cdigioia
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Re: Hmm

I love that idea...except most people would check the "I don't know" box if available.

Desdinova

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Re: Drew Clark

Okay, now you're making no sense in TWO lanugages! Wanna try for three?


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de Centro para la integridad pública. Lanzar por favor cuánto es tu sueldo, tu valor de la casa, tu peso de la esposa, tu tarjeta del informe de los childrens, el contenido de tu refrigerador.
Unfortunately I speak Spanish.

Come back when you are a little more mature.
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dynodb
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Re: Hmm

said by Michieru2 See Profile :

Maybe in the next Census they should put a little check mark saying if the customer has or does not have high speed internet of at least 1.5mbps or higher.
Only if 1.5M isn't available- there are still quite a few people out there who can get 1.5M or more, but opt for a lower priced, slower speed option.

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Into the execs pockets (and in-turn some falls into the politicians' they pay off to keep it that way)... where else?

No matter how many times they will say it, I don't see competion. I don't see competion coming. In fact, I see less of it coming. I also don't see more people being served. Just a sad attempt at bringing a few more profitable areas with next generation (can you call AT&Ts deployment that?) internet without increasing to any (or at least many) other areas than who they currently serve, specifically since the FCC seems to be a stamp for the telcos.
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Yeah, it might give some power to lawsuits overturning the welfare laws that prohibit communities from building and running their own systems?
Perhaps. Or maybe, it will put the lie to the figures the FCC and the incumbents have been using. They wouldn't be fighting this if their skirts were clean.


Michieru2
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Re: Hmm

Good observation but I am pretty sure if such a thing would be included in the Census that more information would be required such as pricing, there current package, and current line speeds.

Since a government agent will appear to your home he will tell you how to run the test online and you simply hand him over the numbers and writes it on the form.

I seriously doubt it will be just this one little checkbox as I seen the Census 2000 forms myself and usually take about a 45 minutes to a hour to fill.
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said by jimbo2150 See Profile :

Into the execs pockets (and in-turn some falls into the politicians' they pay off to keep it that way)... where else?

No matter how many times they will say it, I don't see competion. I don't see competion coming. In fact, I see less of it coming. I also don't see more people being served. Just a sad attempt at bringing a few more profitable areas with next generation (can you call AT&Ts deployment that?) internet without increasing to any (or at least many) other areas than who they currently serve, specifically since the FCC seems to be a stamp for the telcos.
But, but, but!!! You simply don't understand! They are our betters, divinely endowed with wisdom, intelligence and judgement far beyond that of us one-fodder units. They are making money in great gouts, which is the natural order of things. No matter they have not delivered services or levels of service as they promised they would when they testified before congress in the run-up to the Telecom Dereg Act of '96. No matter that they tariff the hell out of their services and collect government-ordered fees that are supposed to be applied to the expansion of services into the areas where said services still don't exist. No matter rollout of said services into said areas has been at a realtive state of stasis for many years. Competition? That is for the rabble.

No matter. They are our betters and it is beneath them to even have to think about justifying themselves. We are simply fortunate to breathe the same air they do, and hope for a better life in the hereafter.

Please excuse me: I am off to read another chapter of the Cliff's Notes of "Atlas Shrugged".
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