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Comments on news posted 2007-01-21 11:58:14: A structure fire causing damage to fiber optic cables created the loss of phone, internet, credit card and ATM service in the Humboldt and Del Norte counties of California. ..

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ropeguru
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 And in Humboldt...

They really noticed?? Surprising, considering all the plants they grow and consume there.
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china crisis

join:2003-05-28
Wait till Arnold finds out about this. Illegals not being able to use an ATM for a day or two.
*** Don't you need a SS# to open up a bank account***

chemaupr

join:2005-06-06
Alexandria, VA
Is cable or cooper fire proof?

Pardon my ignorance but are cable or fire are fire proof?

They want an alternative, but what is there that is accident or sabotage proof?


CCTVTech
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They want another fiber run through a different part of the city, so if one goes down the other fiber can take over. (Redundancy)
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swintec
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Alfred, ME
Holy Job Title!

How would you like that guys job title??? "Redwood Region Economic Development Commission Executive Director Gregg Foster"


GamerGeek

join:2003-07-26
Fortuna, CA

reply to ropeguru
Re: And in Humboldt...

said by ropeguru See Profile :

They really noticed?? Surprising, considering all the plants they grow and consume there.
Hey! Thanks for the stereotype, jerk! Laughing it up in your quiet little retirement community?

Yes, we really did notice. Businesses that depend on internet and credit card transactions were basically shut down. The operator bank where I work had to sit on their thumbs because we couldn't make any phone sales. No internet orders could be processed, either. We lost a lot of business yesterday because of it, including a LOT of other businesses in the entire county.

So yeah, it did kinda get noticed.


DaMaGeINC
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why

why in the hell are the fiber lines somewhere where they can burn down? Shouldn't they be underground?

Pictor Guy

join:2004-06-21
Sammamish, WA
They need to terminate somewhere don't they?

Pictor Guy

join:2004-06-21
Sammamish, WA
reply to CCTVTech
Re: Is cable or cooper fire proof?

Right... SPOF in a network but blame the cable.

MZR

join:2006-08-12
TX

reply to chemaupr
Sorry to say but the only way around this is redundancy and it adds higher cost to infrastructure, something that telecomm companies are not willing to do unless someone pays for it(government).

Fibers are not always underground and we can tell this one is not in a ring. Accidents are going to happen for sure so there should be an alt route to avoid long outages, at least for the voice traffic.


antdude
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 Earthquake?

Wait until a major earthquake occur to knock all of them out!


Anonymous_
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hahaha

haha

internet works fine here in so CAL


Anonymous_
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reply to CCTVTech
Re: Is cable or cooper fire proof?

said by CCTVTech See Profile :

They want another fiber run through a different part of the city, so if one goes down the other fiber can take over. (Redundancy)
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what if both go down

(earthquake)
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baj475

join:2004-11-02
Chico, CA
reply to GamerGeek
Re: And in Humboldt...

"operator bank"? What are you some sort of telemarketer? If so, it could not have happened to a more deserving group!


RIRWIN1983

join:2005-08-30
Columbus, OH
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reply to Pictor Guy
Re: why

yes, but that wound be inside a metal box, just another case to burry all that aerial plant as you can. desipte the cost. you would think since its happen twice that the cost of repairs both time would outweigh the original cost if they had burried it all orignaly.

claudeo

join:2000-02-23
Redmond, WA

Apalling

I don't know what is more apalling -- the fact that a whole region of California only has this single fragile high speed link to the outside world, or the ignorance exhibited in several of the posts above. There is much more to Humboldt and Del Norte counties than the pot growers for which Humboldt is famous. The broadband link going down affected a lot of legitimate businesses and people, not to mention the health system, schools, universities, air traffic control and emergency services. Running another fiber optic cable is not a matter of making another run through town, as you would know if you took a look at a map. For many years that corner of California only had a microwave link and all "broadband" for all users had to squeeze through that small link. When they finally ran a fiber optic cable along 101 there was still no backup using another route. Many rural users can still get no broadband at all. Because the phone companies had "modernized" their lines with cheap multiplexing that also precludes DSL, in the boonies it's either dial-up or satellite, with dial-up connections topping off at 24,000bps.


ropeguru
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reply to GamerGeek
Re: And in Humboldt...

said by GamerGeek See Profile :

said by ropeguru See Profile :

They really noticed?? Surprising, considering all the plants they grow and consume there.
Hey! Thanks for the stereotype, jerk! Laughing it up in your quiet little retirement community?
Hmmmm.... Seems that smoking has you stereotyping also?? Must think that everyone in FL is a retiree...
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Tsume

join:2004-02-23
Johnson City, TN
reply to GamerGeek
IMO, any business that really wants to be prepared should have a satellite backup. At least the internet orders would have been processed.


MacLeech
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reply to RIRWIN1983
Re: why

Then you have to worry about the fiber being dug up:
»www.wired.com/news/technology/0,70040-0.html

Some backhoes seem to require a steady diet of fiber to keep running properly...
»www.undergroundfocus.com/UFM_fil···page.php
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hayabusa3303
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Two things.

One: fiber should always be marked but if not thats the persons fault who owns the fiber if they dont mark it.

Second i guess no one knows how to pick up a phone and call to located where you are going to dig there.
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