Fluker
join:2005-04-07
West Lafayette, IN | I think it's simple
All areas are equipped differently and what may push one node over the top in one area is a drop in the bucket somewhere else.
I'd bet they simply pull up a usage counter for an area and knock the top ten or something. |
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RayW
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join:2001-09-01
Layton, UT
clubs: | That is about one HD movie a night.?
If I was to do that, I would do about 1.5 times that since my wife watches one or two movies a night.
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
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|  Bandwidth limit is a VARIABLE; not 1 single number
While it's understood that severe bandwidth consumption may degrade network performance and violates the TOS, it's not exactly clear how Insight can say there's no "unpublished bandwidth limit" -- when a number of customers obviously just crossed it. Because there isn't an unpublished limit. It is a VARIABLE based on many factors that include density of users in an area; infrastructure available in an area; costs and feasibility of splitting nodes in an area, etc. And probably how many complaints are being received from the bandwidth hogs neighbors.
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
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join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ | 150 GIGS!
Thats wayyyyyy more liberal than the other cable companies which are like 40 and 60gigs.
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fenix_jn
join:2006-12-28
Miami, FL
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·Atlantic Broadband
| Sounds familiar...
I while ago I read somewhere about the *unlimited* data plans... It seems the even the *unlimited* has limitations: 5 GB per user... not really big. If u think about it, this is more or less what it takes to download a DVD, player, decoders and other miscellaneous stuff. It is very easy to reach.
Now, that was only an example (I can't imagine someone downloading entire DVD daily) but its just to make an approximation... even online gaming will reach that limit easily when u use more than one PC on the network. I have 3 of them, and the bandwidth required is about 60 - 90 KB/s per PC assuming just playing... imagine is u r downloading something in the background.
Same with cellphone data services... If u sign up for an unlimited data plan but u tether ur PC in order to get an internet connection out of ur phone (without signing the data plan for PC which is usually expensive) I'm quite sure that u would receive a letter regarding the high data usage on your unlimited data plan... |
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richardpor
Fur it up
join:2003-04-19
Portland, OR
1 edit | Being Flexable
I can see a good reason to be vague and flexible on caps. Occasionally people need to download large files. The message I see is Comcast will let an occasional over limit to slide but will go down hard on those who continually go over the caps.
Frankly the heavy downloader needs to get a job and buy the DVD. We all have to share the network. |
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inteller
Sociopaths always win.
join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK | reply to RayW
Re: That is about one HD movie a night.?
yeah, but geneally you arent streaming HD movies at full quality. I dont know of any commercial service that currently does that.
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exocet_cm
In memory of dadkins
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join:2003-03-23
New Orleans, LA
clubs: 
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A lie is a lie.
Murder is Murder.
But unlimited bandwidth is limited?
If your ISP sells unlimited bandwidth then unlimited bandwidth is what you should get, PERIOD!
You don't throttle/threaten a bandwidth consuming monster because they are using "more" than their neighbors, you build a network that can support that massive bandwidth consumption and then STAND BY YOUR STATEMENT for unlimited bandwidth. To top it off you shouldn't claim that users are sharing files or spewing viruses. There is software/hardware to detect that and bandwidth throttling/monitoring equipment is not that software/hardware.
It seems like ISPs are low-balling users. In the end I'm still a paying ISP customer.
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast
1 edit | New and Improved...
... but at a cost!
BD movies are 19-50GB, each!
No! I am not planning on downloading *OR* uploading these things anytime soon!
As for those that think it is "Their Right" to max a residential connection for days or months... well, they're wrong!
I have cable HSI for the speed, not so I can download everything. It's for what I do want to download, it gets here fast.
Screw DVD rips! XviDs are close enough and are usually 700MB per movie.
Plus, you can slap 6 movies on a single DVD-R.
But, whatever. Go ahead and try to download the Planet & get terminated. More bandwidth for me! 
EDIT: Typo.
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karlmarx
join:2006-09-18
iraq
·Fairpoint Communic..
1 edit | reply to TKJunkMail
Re: Bandwidth limit is a VARIABLE; not 1 single number
Who are you to say someone is a bandwidth hog or not. Maybe I NEEDED to download over 800GB/month (last's month usage). Maybe I NEEDED to upload over 1000GB last month. Who are you to judge ME. I use my internet as it's meant to be used. UNLIMITED. Luckily, since my TOWN owns the internet, I'm not worried about some right winger preaching what I can and cannot do with my connection.
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Toguro
join:2003-10-23
Ottawa, IL
|  150 gigs a month suck
Here are some of the ways to easily blow through that.
1.Akimbo (got to get my Anime on)
2.ITunes (I don't like it but people do)
3.Vongo (when you got to get your mutha phuking movie on except no substitution)
4.AEBN (whether you like nuts or fish there is some thing there for every one)
5.XBOX 360 PS3 WII PC (no matter how you game demo demo demo)
6.Linux Windows Mac (no matter the flavor keep your system up to date) |
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Boogeyman
Drive it like you stole it
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join:2002-12-17
Huntsville, AL
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Re: Bandwidth limit is a VARIABLE; not 1 single number
So would it be ok for a left winger to tell you what to do with your connection? And seriously though, if you NEED to use 1800GB/mo, then maybe you should be paying for a business account, aspecially with 1000gb in uploads.
Personaly I dont care what political affiliations they have. I still dont want them telling me what I can and cant do with my connection as long as it doesnt violate the TOS.
Well, now I finally understand WHY they dont publish the limits.
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
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join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast
| reply to Toguro
Re: 150 gigs a month suck
Uhm, I blow through 20-30GB per month, combined Down/Up.
Anime - never really got into it, meh.
Don't do iTunes - irrelavent.
Movies Suck!
AEBN - I have "other" sources, but yeah!
I play games online - computer.
3 XP computers - all fully updated.
Don't care what people want to say, they are downloading/sharing DVD rips!
What else can add up to that kind of data transfer?
150 - 300 - 600 GB per month? Please!
That is NOT streamed pr0n! Porn DVDs, maybe.
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AJICQ499087
join:2001-12-01
Louisville, KY
| reply to Toguro
My understanding of Paul Meltzer post is that Insight customers are not suppose to run servers or zombie computers on Insight.
I assume it's ok to watch videos and talk on a webcam without hitting a limit.
I have been using Insight since the @home days.
I'm pretty sure I use Insight much more than most customers and I have not received one of those ugly Insight e-mails or any other notice about using the service too much.
Iggy of our Insight forums, I believe uses Insight more than even myself, and as far as I know hasn't received a notice about using the service too much.
Until proven otherwise, I will believe the post Paul Meltzer posted about there being no caps on Insight.
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LoRo
join:2006-10-10
Stanwood, WA | reply to dadkins
Well I run a WSUS server and each time it syncs it end up chewing 10GB - 20GB of data.
I usually sync it every week usually Wend. morning ^_^ love MS. |
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
·North State Commun..
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Re: Bandwidth limit is a VARIABLE; not 1 single number
said by karlmarx  :Who are you to say someone is a bandwidth hog or not. Maybe I NEEDED to download over 800GB/month (last's month usage). Maybe I NEEDED to upload over 1000GB last month. Who are you to judge ME. I use my internet as it's meant to be used. UNLIMITED. Luckily, since my TOWN owns the internet, I'm not worried about some right winger preaching what I can and cannot do with my connection. If you NEEDED to, buy a business class connection.
Otherwise, you WANTED to.
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pumpkinhead7
join:2002-06-14
Fairmont, WV | reply to LoRo
Re: 150 gigs a month suck
I also have a WSUS server here in a business (where its supposed to be used, not at your house) and I can tell you that with all products selected it doesnt take anywhere NEAR that much data to sync it up. |
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast
| reply to LoRo
What exactly is it syncing?
My cable HSI provider says no to servers, does Insight allow them?
Apparently not!
»www.insightbb.com/terms_conditio···e_policy
"xiii. run programs or servers from the Premises that provide network content or any other services to others. Examples of prohibited programs include, but are not limited to, mail, ftp, http, game, newsgroup, proxy, IRC servers and multi-user interactive forums; "
You running that server, if it allows others to access it, would get you terminated.
Reading the TOS/AUP of *ANY* ISP, even your's, would be a good start!
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dmeyer
join:2002-08-14
Austin, TX
| Insight is better than the rest
I've used 6 different cable companies in the past 3 years:
TWC Road Runner - Indianapolis, IN
Insight - Lafayette, IN
TWC Road Runner - Austin, TX
Grande - Austin, TX
Comcast - Indianapolis, IN
Insight - Bloomington, IN
By far Insight has given me the best bang for the buck since I've lived in Bloomington. 10/1 for $30/mo, and the customer service I've dealt with has been very good. I've not experienced any speed issues on my node (80 apartment units in southwest Bloomington) but I'm not complaining about my average 5-6mbps download speeds.
Anyone who's complaining about this service needs their head checked, unless they have a legitimate reason to be trading DVD ISOs on P2P networks all day. Find 1mbps upload anywhere else in Indiana for 30 bucks a month and I'll give you a pink pony. |
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brandon
Some truth included in this post.
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join:2003-03-31
Hurley, MS
·AT&T Southeast
| reply to TKJunkMail
Re: Bandwidth limit is a VARIABLE; not 1 single number
said by TKJunkMail :While it's understood that severe bandwidth consumption may degrade network performance and violates the TOS, it's not exactly clear how Insight can say there's no "unpublished bandwidth limit" -- when a number of customers obviously just crossed it. Because there isn't an unpublished limit. It is a VARIABLE based on many factors that include density of users in an area; infrastructure available in an area; costs and feasibility of splitting nodes in an area, etc. And probably how many complaints are being received from the bandwidth hogs neighbors. Actually, I would suggest that there IS an unpublished "limit." It's just not in the terms we're thinking.
The limit is most likely a percentage of network degredation. Once that percentage is crossed, the top downloaders are notified, regardless of how much they have downloaded. |
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