Shamayim
I already have a Messiah.
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join:2002-09-23 | Been waiting for this
Now let's get ont with it! |
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aztecnology
O Rly?
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join:2003-02-12
Murrieta, CA | Finally! I happen to live in the land of FiOS, Murrieta, CA, but I happen to own a condo, and as such I've been overlooked for the last 3 years... |
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Subaru
1-3-2-4
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join:2001-05-31
Greenwich, CT
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said by Shamayim  :Now let's get ont with it! I could have not said it better myself.. I went from having Fios to going back to VZ DSL.. it blows so hard...
Disappointed with Verizon last year on rolling it out to apartments. |
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truocchio
join:2004-07-05
Miami Beach, FL
| The devil is in the details...
My company installs internet access systems in MDU/apartments. When having to retro fit a MDU with a wired system there are often times many barriers to completing the job and in some cases, serious showstoppers. Running a new fiber to every unit is going to be a lot of work along with cutting, drilling, and inconvenience. Not that is not worth it, just that many will be unhappy with the process. Especially in older buildings where there are not "homerun" conduits and wires free run through various paths through each wall. This is the case in many buildings NY, NJ and other major Verizon areas. Because every building is unique, with its own condo board or management company, I can see this taking an extraordinary amount of time to complete.
However they better get a move on, many indie ISP are already contracting with developers to pre wire the building with fiber/cat5&6 and signing multi year bulk rate contracts for triple play services. Verizon, cable cos, etc are being shut out and are not even wiring many of these properties.
If you are in a condo/apt it will still be sometime before mass FIOS rollouts occur, unless your board is tech savvy and doesnt mind the inconveniences of the retro fit. |
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HEMIDART68
join:2000-12-13
Huntington Beach, CA | I have fios in my apt. I was one of the first to get it. Good luck guys.
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kyler13
Is your fiber grounded?
join:2006-12-12
Arnold, MD | reply to truocchio
I don't see the big deal here. The new 612 ONT's can use the MoCA WAN channel to send data over coax. I'm sure a large portion of apartment buildings are pre-wired with coax. |
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scrummie02
Bentley
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join:2004-04-16
Arlington, VA
| Finally.....
Nice...I live in a condo. I have the bottom floor and a basement, but there is someone above me. Rumor has it they were planning on deploying there since the rest of Arlington VA has it. I can't wait.
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UofMiamiGrad
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join:2001-02-03
Great Neck, NY
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Re: The devil is in the details...
said by kyler13 :I don't see the big deal here. The new 612 ONT's can use the MoCA WAN channel to send data over coax. I'm sure a large portion of apartment buildings are pre-wired with coax. My condo building built in the late 80s is all crap RG-59. Even the cable company came and was going to run new RG-11 to the units, but it's still spooled up hanging from the ceiling of the garage level. As you can see the condo board really has teeth and follows through. I am hoping to change that by getting on the Condo board and getting FIOS in my building. So far I have gotten wiring plans sent to the managing agent from VZ, will he present it to the Condo board is beyond me, but I'll get it done one way or another. I need my fiber  |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
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join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| reply to aztecnology
Re: Been waiting for this
said by aztecnology :Finally! I happen to live in the land of FiOS, Murrieta, CA, but I happen to own a condo, and as such I've been overlooked for the last 3 years... Even if it was available to you and you have a HOA then depending on how gestapo your HOA is, you STILL couldn't get it.
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inteller
Sociopaths always win.
join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK
| maybe not. I know the FCC overrules HOAs on the placement of sat dishes....I would think the same protections of communications would exist for this as well. Hell this would be even less visible as opposed to a sat dish. But I have heard horror stories about CA HOAs....apparently the most gestapo in the country. |
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truocchio
join:2004-07-05
Miami Beach, FL | reply to kyler13
Re: The devil is in the details...
But many times the condo doesn't own that coaxial to the unit the cable company does, and for 10-20 years. It depends on the developers deal with the cable co. so that solution is not always going to work either. |
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macrospect
All The Little Stuff
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join:2005-08-25
Doylestown, PA | reply to dvd536
Re: Been waiting for this
Ding ding ding. That is the problem where I live. Our HOA doesn't care for FiOS. Mind you I am in a condo not an apartment.  |
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FHFIOS
@rcn.com
| No FIOS in Forest Hills, New York or Manhattan, New York !!
This is all a PR Ploy. FIOS has not been seen in MDUs in Forest Hills, NY or Manhattan, New York and they have yet to WIRE UP THE INNER CITY.
So all Verizon talk is all BS because by the end of this year there will be NO FIOS still in these areas. |
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ddg4005
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join:2001-08-22
Bronx, NY | Fios for MDUs
It's about damn time. Now stop talking about it and do it Verizon!! I'm waiting in the Bronx!
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brooklynman4
join:2004-09-07
Brooklyn, NY | the question is that can there network hold all them people ?? |
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njcellfreak
join:2006-12-28
Union City, NJ
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Re: No FIOS in Forest Hills, New York or Manhattan, New York !!
said by FHFIOS :
This is all a PR Ploy. FIOS has not been seen in MDUs in Forest Hills, NY or Manhattan, New York and they have yet to WIRE UP THE INNER CITY.
So all Verizon talk is all BS because by the end of this year there will be NO FIOS still in these areas.
Exactly. Verizon is full of $hit. They're still redlining. Those areas will not see FIOS for a good 10 years. By then Time Warner (the provider who currently serves those areas) would have caught up. Cablevision did. Who needs FIOS when you got Boost.
These people act like Verizon is now the holy grail but 6-7 years ago, they were the anti-christ. Astounding. But sorry, Verizon is still the same company. A leopard never changes his spots. FIOS is not all that and neither is their TV service. I've seen it in action at a friends on Staten Island. It aint no big deal. Cablevision's Boost does the same $hit and pretty soon capping will come to FIOS as well and people will be bitching at Verizon again. Enjoy the party while it lasts. |
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FTTHoles
@optonline.net | More drilling of holes to fit fibers
Will owners want their dwellings drilled for fiberwires up to 20th floors ? |
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DMS1
join:2005-04-06
Carrollton, TX
| reply to kyler13
Re: The devil is in the details...
said by kyler13 :I don't see the big deal here. The new 612 ONT's can use the MoCA WAN channel to send data over coax. I'm sure a large portion of apartment buildings are pre-wired with coax. The problem with this approach is that there is only a single WAN channel defined on MoCA, which means that each unit would need an independent coax connection to the ONT. This may or may not be an issue if FiOS TV is also being installed, but could be a big problem if a different TV service is required to co-exist on the same coax.
A better solution is to use the ONT625 (»www.tellabs.com/products/1000/tl···_625.pdf) which provides eight VDSL ports instead of Ethernet. These can be run over standard phone wiring with a VDSL modem at the other end. |
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Tzale
Proud Libertarian Conservative
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join:2004-01-06
Sweden
 ·Verizon FIOS
 ·Optimum Online
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Re: No FIOS in Forest Hills, New York or Manhattan, New York !!
said by njcellfreak :said by FHFIOS :
This is all a PR Ploy. FIOS has not been seen in MDUs in Forest Hills, NY or Manhattan, New York and they have yet to WIRE UP THE INNER CITY.
So all Verizon talk is all BS because by the end of this year there will be NO FIOS still in these areas.
Exactly. Verizon is full of $hit. They're still redlining. Those areas will not see FIOS for a good 10 years. By then Time Warner (the provider who currently serves those areas) would have caught up. Cablevision did. Who needs FIOS when you got Boost. These people act like Verizon is now the holy grail but 6-7 years ago, they were the anti-christ. Astounding. But sorry, Verizon is still the same company. A leopard never changes his spots. FIOS is not all that and neither is their TV service. I've seen it in action at a friends on Staten Island. It aint no big deal. Cablevision's Boost does the same $hit and pretty soon capping will come to FIOS as well and people will be bitching at Verizon again. Enjoy the party while it lasts. Why should they provide FIOS service to inner-city Jersey City? I think it makes a lot more sense to go to the more affluent, middle class neighborhoods in NJ, not the inner city neighborhoods.
Don't forget, Verizon is a BUSINESS. They are under no obligation to provide service RIGHT now to YOU... They need to roll out slowly because they need to replace millions of miles of copper with fiber and it is NOT cheap. They only have enough money to do a couple areas at a time, and they NEED to see some sort a return on those areas to fund the rest.
Don't forget that..... VERIZON IS A BUSINESS. They NEED to show a PROFIT TO THEIR STOCKHOLDERS.
Lets not forget that BOOST would not be around, nor would the 15/2 free upgrade from 10/1 if it wasn't for Verizon pressuring CV into upgrading to keep customers.
The opportunities with a full fiber network are much greater than a hybrid fiber-coax network. End of story.
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Tzale
Proud Libertarian Conservative
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join:2004-01-06
Sweden
·Verizon FIOS
·Optimum Online
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Re: Fios for MDUs
said by brooklynman4 :the question is that can there network hold all them people ?? Of course! Why not? Verizon has been upgrading it's central offices and backbone network in anticipation of FIOS. A lot of areas are still only on DSL and experience problems, but most of the new FIOS upgraded areas don't have any problems at all providing the full bandwidth.
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