PhoenixDown
-- Wants FIOS
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join:2003-06-08
Fresh Meadows, NY
clubs:   | They should've deployed Apple I-TV's
WAN wide Apple I-TV broadcasts. |
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N3OGH
Bear patrol must be working like a charm
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join:2003-11-11
Philly burbs
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1 edit | said by PhoenixDown  :WAN wide Apple I-TV broadcasts. Hope you've got your asbestos jammies handy, 'cause here it comes.... 
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meskinct
Mad Scientist at Work
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Danbury, CT
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2 edits | Finger Pointing
AT&T picked Microsoft to be their provider for an IPTV solution. Ultimately, the responsibility lies with AT&T not Microsoft to ensure that the solution fits their (AT&T's) IPTV needs.
Sounds like some poor analysis was done at AT&T and they are pointing their fingers at Mr. Softee.
Analogy:
I've got a fire I need to put out. I need a hose to move the water. I pick a 1/2 inch hose. The fire rages out of control. Who is responsible?
1. Me (AT&T) for picking too small of a hose?
2. The maker of the hose (Microsoft) because it doesn't supply enough water?
I think you'll put the blame with #1 because I picked a bad solution to the problem.
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jslik
That just happened
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clubs: | Try to guess what is redundant....
"unwieldy Microsoft code"
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anonone
@af.mil | reply to meskinct
Re: Finger Pointing
The size of the hose does not matter if the pump does not work. |
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DaSneaky1D
one wall to block them all
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join:2001-03-29
The Lou | said by anonone :
The size of the hose does not matter if the pump does not work.
Classic!
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jtel
join:2005-06-28
Bristol, RI | The Beta Test Continues
Well, now they are admitting there's a problem with the product. Makes Verizon's choice not to employ IPTV till it was more mature look like a smart move.
I'd love to be a fly on the wall during one of the meetings between AT&T and Microsoft. |
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gaforces
United We Stand, Divided We Fall
join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA
2 edits | development process
Typical building scenario, ;
Customer, We want you to build this and heres the plan.
Builder, Can do!
Customer 1/4 of the way into the building process, We have a slight change, could you please implement it?
Builder, Can do! But this will delay the scheduled release.
Customer, No problem!
Customer 1/2 way through the building process, We have a slight change, could you please implement it?
Builder, Can do! But this will delay the scheduled release.
Customer, No problem!
Customer 3/4 through the building process, We have a slight change, could you please implement it?
Builder, Can do! But its going to cost 3x the original estimate and delay the scheduled release.
Customer, OMG that wasnt in the plan what do you mean its costing 3x and more delay! Just stick by the original plan.
Builder, Can do! But we have to undo the last changes you made and its going to cost 2x the original estimate and delay the release.
Customer, Thats not what we planned!
Builder, Im sorry
99% done and doing an overview with the customer.
Customer,We have a slight change, it will be unacceptable if you dont implement it. And we dont want to pay for it.
Builder, It is what it is, if you want it fixed you need to pay.
Customer, We dont want to pay and were going to blame everything(including the delay)on you if our product launch is a failure.
Builder, Shrug |
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MASantangelo
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Pittstown, NJ | reply to anonone
Re: Finger Pointing
But Microsoft wasn't the maker of the pump... |
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RayW
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Layton, UT
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| reply to meskinct
said by meskinct :AT&T picked Microsoft to be their provider for an IPTV solution. Ultimately, the responsibility lies with AT&T not Microsoft to ensure that the solution fits their (AT&T's) IPTV needs. Sounds like some poor analysis was done at AT&T and they are pointing their fingers at Mr. Softee. Mind posting links to the specs from AT&T that lead you to make that statement? Most of the articles that point fingers seem to point toward microsoft not being able to provide, which makes sense since historically microsoft requires many iterations (prime example, the antitrust case where m had to go through many iterations to to get IE an integral and non-removable part of windows) to get working code out.
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
Here | reply to gaforces
Re: development process
You know something from the inside? |
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anonone
@af.mil
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Re: Finger Pointing
said by MASantangelo :But Microsoft wasn't the maker of the pump... For his analogy to work, ATT picked the size of the pipe and chose MS to build the pump. The pipe is in place, however the pump has problems functioning at times. MS is responsible for the STB code and a large portion of backend IPTV code as well.
Even verizon had problems with the MS pump and they were using a very large pipe. |
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inteller
Sociopaths always win.
join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK
| this sounds just like carriers and WM
all the carriers complain because they cant get windows mobile phones to work the way they want them with all of their "carrier customizations" in the end what it is is a bunch of yahoos at said carrier who dont know how to program and a bunch of bean counters who want to lock down the device way more than the consumer wants. I suspect the same thing exists on the IPTV side. The sounds just like verizon who was going to "re-write" the code. Yeah, I know when I think software developers I think verizon.
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RJ44
join:2001-10-19
Nashville, TN | reply to gaforces
Typical software development process
Vendor: We're going to be late with the scheduled delivery.
Customer: Again? sigh.... |
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gaforces
United We Stand, Divided We Fall
join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA
2 edits | reply to bogey780
Re: development process
No I dont.
From what I read on the articles linked they changed the motorola boxes that the software would be running on, the ones they had for development process had more memory.
Then at the end they changed the billing process.
Those are not minor changes, those 2 things are HUGE changes, and Id bet the farm they changed other things.
Change=Delay |
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phattieg
join:2001-04-29
Winter Park, FL | reply to anonone
Re: Finger Pointing
I would have a classical reply to that one simply because you set yourself up for it, but I won't say it here. :-D
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b10010011
Whats a Posting tag?
join:2004-09-07
Bellingham, WA
·Comcast Formerly ..
3 edits |  My Comcast cable box is "Microsoft Enhaced"
This BSOD must be the "Enhanced" part. |
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Maxo
Your tax dollars at work.
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join:2002-11-04
Tallahassee, FL
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Re: Try to guess what is redundant....
Yeah, this no shocker. Microsoft and shitty code seam to go hand-in-hand.
Are there no other providers with better boxes?
I find it amazing that the Verizon peeps actually could rewrite the code. Doesn't Microsoft find sharing their code with anyone outside of their company against their way of doing business? |
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RayW
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Layton, UT
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| said by Maxo :Doesn't Microsoft find sharing their code with anyone outside of their company against their way of doing business? They apparently shared with China and according to the rumours from our security gurus, the US Gov had some serious PC intrusions through microsoft webmail and/or outlook as a result of holes/'features' found using that data.
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odreian615
join:2006-01-18
Chicago, IL | M$ cant shove enough DRM in it
to make the **AA's happy naw but it looks to be a while for that Xbox-360 IPTV thing getting off the ground |
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