kba4
join:2001-10-23
Canton, OH
 ·RoadRunner Cable
| speed isn't important really
the idea should be to provide FREE universal access. speed is a secondary issue really. think about it, if everyone has free symmetrical 128Kbps access, that's plenty to use for most research apps, and a few Mbps is even better. this will help create the expectation for higher PAID speeds that you can BUY from providers. but for basic use, anything 128Kbps and higher should be more than adequate. i'd love it if my city were 'wired' for wireless this way, wow!
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illegal wars, prisoners with no trials, and state controlled media. welcome to the land of the free! |
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SFRCN
@optonline.net
| SF RCN
Notice how the topic mentions NOTHING about RCN which in San Francisco has fiber assets and is supposedly selling out to Astound Broadband and its in the franchise process right now.
The future for San Francisco belongs to a combination of Wireless AND Fiber optics.
SF doesn't need Steve Weed formerly of Millenium Digital whos over at Astound now ruining the broadband for users in the San Francisco and surrounding areas.
SF will get the wireless portion of broadband correct, but the WIRED piece looks like it could be destroyed if the same body believes that Astound Broadband is IN the interests of its users. |
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Happi
@charter.com
| reply to kba4
Re: speed isn't important really
said by kba4  : anything 128Kbps and higher should be more than adequate.  |
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DaMaGeINC
The Lan Man
Premium
join:2002-06-08
Greenville, SC
clubs: | 128k might as well be dialup. Anything under 1mbps is worthless. |
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Happi
@charter.com
| San Francisco should bill the system as a "mega earthquake sensor" -- and ask the Federal Geologic Survey folks to pay for it. They'd know every time somebody farted in the 'Bay area! |
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ashworth
join:2001-10-06
Pittsburgh, PA
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to kba4
Again the key word is FREE !! How can you bitch about free. It seems to me that local politicians want to get their sticky fingers into this one. Google/Earthlink are willing to do this for FREE (they'll get ad rev), does anyone else see any problem here ?? Again FREE, all we're asking for are access points within the city. |
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odreian615
join:2006-01-18
Chicago, IL
1 edit | 15 years bullshyt
if thats the case Verizon been laying fiber for the last 50 years If Sanfran do this expect other cities to follow and the US gov should give cites and towns some kinda help deploying this |
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calvoiper
join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA
| Why the Board of Stupervisors favors fiber....
The Board of Stupervisors favors fiber because it will be SO much more expensive, and there will be SO many more opportunities to steer contracts, solicit campaign contributions, make friends, and take bribes. The public be damned, make sure the Stupervisors get their trough filled first!
calvoiper
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calvoiper
join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA
| Monopoly? What monopoly?
There is all this talk of the City giving Google/Earthlink a "monopoly." What monopoly? There are several ISPs operating in San Francisco. A monopoly on Wi-Fi? No way, the FCC would never allow that. A monopoly on "free"? No, anybody can give something away.
What's left? A monopoly on placing Wi-Fi equipment on streetlight poles? So what?
The choices for "competitors" between now and 2015 are between 1) not putting Wi-Fi on streetlights because only Google/Earthlink can or 2) not putting Wi-Fi on streetlights because nobody can. After about 2015, "competitors" might be able to ride a city-run network, but if you're familiar with how well SF city government "runs" things (like the municipal streetcar and bus system) you can bet that competitors will have already gone Wi-Max, Wi-Fi from private (or utility) locations, or some other technology.
This harebrained "public fiber" scheme is a roadmap to failure and corruption.
calvoiper
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kba4
join:2001-10-23
Canton, OH
·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to ashworth
Re: speed isn't important really
THANK YOU!!
it's FREE, people! true, if it costs something then the customer has a right to complain, but it's FREE, or at least subsidized to a large extent. don't complain when your city is a hotspot, even at less than 1Mbps. you can do more than most citizens: check maps, etc. while riding with someone, pay bills after using an ATM, stuff like that 
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illegal wars, prisoners with no trials, and state controlled media. welcome to the land of the free! |
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houselog442
join:2005-10-05
| What do you expect this is the city of communists! It's typical for communists t demand everything top notch and force someone else to pay for it! These are the same people that are trying to regulate talk radio and censor anybody who dares go against the communist left! Communism cannot tolerate contrasting views! Communist liberals have created a system where they complain that Bush is a tyrant and that America sucks when in reality it is the opposite. It is the communist liberals in the name of freedom are trying to regulate the media and create as many inefficient communist programs so that they can turn America into a communist dump! Liberals are communists, and the only good communist is a dead one! |
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kba4
join:2001-10-23
Canton, OH | a little heavy on the Commie talk don't you think  |
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elvey
Spamassassin
join:2001-02-17
San Francisco, CA | Informed Opinions?
Has Brewster Kahle opined on this yet? |
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