 kaila
join:2000-10-11 Lincolnshire, IL clubs:  | I wonder if Cingular
managed a better deal. Seriously Apple, I know you get pushed around by the recording industry, but no need to take it out on the guys who will help you print money with this phone. |
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  TKJunkMail Enjoy the sun Premium join:2002-03-03 Avalon, NJ
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| Apple is the new Borg
Apple appears to outdo even Microsoft in monopoly practices. They are the new Borg!!
 Apple's corporate legal dept.
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  Eloquorius Premium join:2004-05-24 San Jose, CA
1 edit | Good for Verizon
As much as I like the iPhone, as Verizon subscriber (and a happy one at that) I'm glad Verizon did this. Apple isn't the new Microsoft... they've been rather controlling in their business practices for a long time. But I understand Verizon's point. I wouldn't want to get entangled with any company that dictated how far I can go to service my customers and make them happy. Heck, if a free replacement iPhone would have made a customer happy, who is Apple to tell Verizon not to give it to them?
Let Apple go to Cingular/AT&T and let Cingular's already horrific service record get screwed up even further when their customers have to be subject to Apple's whims on hardware service. |
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  Jeffrey too dark too early Premium join:2002-12-24 Dix Hills,NY clubs:
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2 edits | The whole point is moot
I wouldn't have gotten this phone even if Verizon signed the deal because I don't understand the fascination with this device, especially at it's high cost. I think a lot of aspects of this device are prohibitive; no 3rd party apps, questionable battery life, high cost.
Now that they signed a deal with Cingular through 2009 (or whatever it is), I'm that much closer to "never" to switching providers just to get a brand new phone with questionable reliability from a good company.
My girlfriend has Cingular/AT&T. I'll see if the fashion bug bites her, and if she drops a few hundred on this waste of time. She's getting 'tired' of her Razr, so I'm sure Apple's marketing magic will kick in as soon as she sees one in the store, or sees a friend with one. Me, I'm saving my money for a nice Canon Digital SLR. I'll take the $50 phone please. -- "When you get lost in your imaginatory vagueness, your forsight becomes a nimble vagrant."
[Ramblings] [RIP Millie 1993-2006]
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join:2004-06-06 Winnipeg, MB | Just wait..
Once the knock-offs start rolling out on other providers, Apple will regret their heavy-handed practices with the iPhone. It'll be an interesting 6-10 months... |
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  jjoshua Premium join:2001-06-01 Scotch Plains, NJ
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| Who's smoking what?
Apple sure is full of itself looking for a rev share.
The wireless providers stink for not standardizing and forcing you to purchase a specific phone for their network.
Apple could revolutionize the current business models by offering compatibiliy with multiple providers via a user replacable module. |
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  inteller Sociopaths always win.
join:2003-12-08 Tulsa, OK
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I think Verizon is just poo pooing the deal because Apple didn't want to get locked into ESN hell.
Apple probably wanted more control on a verizon deal because they knew of verizons shady practices with trinket selling on their stupid vcast network.
I bet Apples deal with ATT is a lot less restrictive because they know since its a SIM phone they can take it to other markets easily anyways. -- "WHEN THE LAUGH TRACK STARTS THEN THE FUN STARTS!" |
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  jgkolt Premium join:2004-02-21 Lakewood, OH clubs: | rev 2 please
LEt cingular test out all the bugs and kinks. I will wait for rev 2 that has higher speed network connectivity, better photo quality, exchange email syncing compatibility, wifi etc. |
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  odreian615
join:2006-01-18 Chicago, IL 1 edit | Maybe Apple didnt want the Iphone
features locked on Verizon plus CDMA is not worldwide |
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  yock TFTC Premium join:2000-11-21 Fairfield, OH
| reply to Jeffrey Re: The whole point is moot
said by Jeffrey :I wouldn't have gotten this phone even if Verizon signed the deal because I don't understand the fascination with this device... On a broader scale, your point is moot. You don't represent the consumer wireless market as a whole. -- Wiki Wiki Laughter is the closest distance between two people. --Victor Borge |
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join:2001-04-21 Lorton, VA
| reply to jjoshua Re: Who's smoking what?
said by jjoshua :The wireless providers stink for not standardizing and forcing you to purchase a specific phone for their network. You could subscribe to a GSM provider like T-Mobile and Cingular and not worry about getting stuck to their phone selection. |
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1 edit | reply to yock Re: The whole point is moot
said by yock :said by Jeffrey :I wouldn't have gotten this phone even if Verizon signed the deal because I don't understand the fascination with this device... On a broader scale, your point is moot. You don't represent the consumer wireless market as a whole. I'm not trying to represent anyone other than myself. If we all had to preface our posts with "In my opinion..." that would be quite silly, and awfully redundant.
Thanks for tryin' tho! -- "When you get lost in your imaginatory vagueness, your forsight becomes a nimble vagrant."
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  cableties Premium join:2005-01-27
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| Apple Sells Coolness.
Verizon just sells communications.
Control phreaks! Both of them!
Personally, as cool as the iPhone is, where is it? It's not out yet. I just want a phone. To call. I would like a PDA-thing to do more, but I can talk on a phone while I use my laptop. Can you talk on this iPhone, surf, email, control remote server(s) all at once? At ubiquitous speeds?
"But, it's soo cool!" "I don't need cool. I need a better job. You hiring?" "Um, but it's cool!"  |
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join:2005-07-22 New Hope, PA
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Verizon didn't want to have to compete with iTunes, wanted to load their stupid SW onto the iPhone (or have control of the interface), and/or wanted to lock down features that are standard on the iPhone so they could charge to unlock those features.
Once the iPhone was previewed, they started getting tons of calls on when they would be getting them into their stores.
Now to save face, they put this spin on it. Seeing how the wording in the article is very non-confrontational, I think they still would love to offer the iPhone.
Just my 2 cents. |
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  Fluker
join:2005-04-07 West Lafayette, IN
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Thank you apple. I would rather talk into my shoe than a cdma phone.
At least there will be unlocked iphones eventually so that you can choose what provider you like. I don't know enough to say that cdma is unlockable.. But whats the point, your stuck in a very small pool of compatible providers. |
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  Fluker
join:2005-04-07 West Lafayette, IN | reply to dcaponegro5 Re: Here is what I think
verizon phones are so annoying to me. There is no part of their latest phones where you can't see the vcast plastered.
I hate that word now. |
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  DrewCapu Giant Diehard
join:2001-12-19 California clubs: | reply to Derfel Re: Just wait..
I've seen knock-offs of other Apple products.
None have impressed. |
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  N3OGH Bear patrol must be working like a charm Premium join:2003-11-11 Philly burbs | reply to TKJunkMail Re: Apple is the new Borg
ROTFLMAO That corporate legal department line made me spit out my bologna sandwich.
YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED |
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  en102 Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26 Valencia, CA | reply to TKJunkMail Funny - I always thought Verizon Wireless was the Borg. 'You will use our Bluetooth crippled phones, restrictive TOS on data, and Verizon Wireless custom GUI' Resistance is futile. |
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  Nightfall My Goal Is To Deny Yours Premium,MVM join:2001-08-03 Grand Rapids, MI
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| Who cares?
Apple was going to release their phone to one of the top wireless companies. If Verizon couldn't work a deal out with Apple, it was good that Cingular could. Either way, who cares? I admit this phone looks interesting, but it just isn't worth it to me to buy and extend my contract for 2 years just to get my hands on one later this year.
Let Apple partner with whomever they want. This phone is going to sell well, but you won't see me dole out a cent for this device.  -- My Domain Nightfall's Hockey and Life Journal |
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