 nasadude
join:2001-10-05 Rockville, MD
·Comcast
1 edit | guaranteed to confuse
what they are really saying:
With Verizon Double Freedom, Verizon Triple Freedom and Verizon Ultimate Freedom, you'll be so confused, you'll never be able to compare our prices with the competition. We choose so you don't have to! And don't forget, the more services you choose, the less you save! |
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  N3OGH Bear patrol must be working like a charm Premium join:2003-11-11 Philly burbs
·Verizon FIOS
·Verizon Online DSL
| I find it very confusing as well.
I all ready have 3 services from Verizon (Wireless, DSL, and 1 stripped down to the bone $16/mo land line for 911 and incoming calls), so I'll probably try and save a couple bucks a month with it.
How, I don't know..... -- Never ask what sort of a computer a guy drives. If he's a Mac user, he'll tell you. If not, why embarrass him? -Tom Clancy |
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  ColorBASIC 8-bit Fun Premium join:2006-12-29 Corona, CA
| Lower the cost of options to keep customers
Dump the $1.50 how dare I not want to be in the phonebook fee, $1.50 telemarketer (anonymous call) block fee and $7.50 for caller ID. POTS pricing is fine but just a few options like these can easily double the price making POTS 'overpriced'. I have the $10 metered POTS service and by the time they're done with taxes, fees and these few extra services my bill is closer to $30. That's not much cheaper than an economy cell plan and certainly more expensive than a lot of VoIP providers. |
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  cableties Premium join:2005-01-27 | reply to nasadude Re: guaranteed to confuse
Must have consulted the MS Vista Pricing Guide... |
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 ltt75
join:2001-01-22 Hollis, NH
| what?
I actually like having a metered landline. Mine comes to only $14/month with 60min local calling time. 99% of the time I just use my cell phone, but after some of those nasty ice storms that left us without power for 3+ days, wouldn't you know it... the landline was working perfectly the entire time and was quite helpful after my cell batteries died. |
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  TKJunkMail Enjoy the sun Premium join:2002-03-03 Avalon, NJ
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·Comcast
1 edit | reply to nasadude Only good for 12 months
The pkg'd prices are only good for 1 yr(in small faded print at bottom of page), when they will revert to standard prices. I went and checked out the "Double Freedom" wired/wireless plan at their web site. -- -- My BLOG My Web Page |
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  viperpa33s Why Me? Premium join:2002-12-20 Bradenton, FL
·Bright House
| Verizon don't understand
Verizon still don't get it, most people don't want there landline anymore. People wised up and don't want to pay for redundant services. The only reason why I still keep my basic landline for $8.88 a month is because I need it for my DSL. Other than that I would dump it. As the other poster said about fees, once you add up all the fees and taxes, that $28 savings will be no more. |
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  kamm
join:2001-02-14 Brooklyn, NY | "Freedom"...
... is more than pathetic naming. |
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  AMDUSER Premium join:2003-05-28 Earth clubs: | reply to viperpa33s Re: Verizon don't understand
Verizon does offer stand alone DSL as well, $35 for Dryloop 3 Meg / 768. |
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  anondude1
@optonline.net | VZ lost to competing VOIP`s lower monthly fees ~$10/month
Why pay $40/month for local and long distance when others were paying very cheap for unlimited calls per month ??? |
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  orion940 Paralyzed By Confusion Premium join:2001-12-23 Windsor, CT
·AT&T Yahoo
| Enough to make me want to move to Verizon territory
What do you get with the Double Secret Probation package?
O. I think I answered my own question  -- New avitar may be paid for out of Excise Tax Return. |
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  PGHammer
join:2003-06-09 Accokeek, MD clubs:
·Comcast
| reply to anondude1 Re: VZ lost to competing VOIP`s lower monthly fees ~$10/month
Part of who VZ is losing customers to is....itself! A good portion of those landline drops aren't to VoIP (including Vonage or VZ's own BroadWing), but to Cingular/AT&T and to (mostly) VZW (VZW picked up over one million new numbers during 2006; how many of those are swaps from landlines?). In areas where VZ is free to offer long distance (especially as part of VZ Freedom), they are usually quite competitive pricewise with VoIP (the most common VZ Freedom package is $40/month, and it includes services unavailable with VoIP; also, unlike VoIP, it doesn't require a separate broadband service, from VZ or anyone else). Part of the reason other VoIP services are so inexpensive is that they aren't maintaining the pipeline they use (therefore, it's a cost they don't have); therefore, to compare apples to apples, part of the cost of the (required) broadband connection has to be factored in (when you do that, VZ Freedom doesn't sound like such a bad deal. |
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  PGHammer
join:2003-06-09 Accokeek, MD clubs: | reply to kamm Re: "Freedom"...
Indeed it is.
I've been a VZ Freedom customer for over a year, and the VZ Freedom package I subscribe to is certainly competitive pricewise with VoIP (which is why I've not been tempted in the least by either Vonage or SunRocket). |
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 nasadude
join:2001-10-05 Rockville, MD
·Comcast
| reply to TKJunkMail Re: Only good for 12 months
said by TKJunkMail :The pkg'd prices are only good for 1 yr(in small faded print at bottom of page), when they will revert to standard prices. I went and checked out the "Double Freedom" wired/wireless plan at their web site. good catch.
again, I think a primary purpose of these bundled packages is to make it very difficult to compare by price - these companies don't want to compete on price, but they want to appear to offer a better value when in many cases there is none. |
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 nasadude
join:2001-10-05 Rockville, MD
·Comcast
| reply to viperpa33s Re: Verizon don't understand
said by viperpa33s :...The only reason why I still keep my basic landline for $8.88 a month is because I need it for my DSL. Other than that I would dump it. ... $8.88!!!! how you get it that low? Just getting a dial tone where I live is close to $15 and that's without the taxes. Maybe it has gone down, 'cause that was several years ago, but I doubt it. |
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 Lenagainster
join:2005-01-07 Silver Spring, MD
·VoicePulse
·DIRECTV
·magicjack.com
| said by nasadude :$8.88!!!! how you get it that low? In NJ, rates are low, but unlike the DC metro area where most of Montgomery County, PG County, DC and Northern VA are local calls, a short distance outside your home town in NJ and it's long distance.
If one has cable or FiOS, one has the option to forgo a landline and get VoIP plans with every imaginable feature, unlimited local and long distance calling for $25, about $30 with taxes and fees. Or one could get a stripped down, limited VoIP plan in the $10 to $15 neighborhood.
Any way Verizon packages it, landlines are overpriced for what you get, and they are just bandaging a dying service. |
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  chotty
join:2004-07-12 Birmingham, AL | Landline info?
I have Bellsouth landline (Local calling) in Birmingham, Al. About $50 a month! Can anyone suggest a cheaper plan/ solution? We use our cells fro LD and have RR 7mb cable.
Thanks! Chotty |
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 Lenagainster
join:2005-01-07 Silver Spring, MD
·VoicePulse
·DIRECTV
·magicjack.com
| reply to PGHammer Re: VZ lost to competing VOIP`s lower monthly fees ~$10/month
said by PGHammer :...In areas where VZ is free to offer long distance (especially as part of VZ Freedom), they are usually quite competitive pricewise with VoIP (the most common VZ Freedom package is $40/month, and it includes services unavailable with VoIP; Another way to look at it is if you have broadband Internet service anyway, then Verizon Freedom packages are expensive, as you indicated, in the $40 range (is that pre-taxes?) because VoIP with every imaginable feature and unlimited local and LD are $25 per month, with taxes and fees bringing it up to under $30 per month. VoIP with limits can be had in the $10 to $15 range.
I would like to know what services Verizon Freedom packages offer that are not available with VoIP. |
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 Lenagainster
join:2005-01-07 Silver Spring, MD | reply to chotty Re: Landline info?
Look into VoIP; AT&T CallVantage, VoicePulse, ViaTalk, Vonage. Go to »/gbu for reviews and ratings of various VoIP companies. |
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 Gres7
join:2001-03-05 Brooklyn, NY
| reply to PGHammer Re: "Freedom"...
Do you mind sharing how much is your total bill and what portion of it taxes/fees.
Reason I am asking is that I have
1 Landline $8 CallerID $8 Calls Placed $2 Taxes/fees $23 _______________ My bill $41
Would be really nice to know real bill number from "VZ Freedom " |
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