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California | Oops! "Oops!" has been brought to you by Erasers. Don't make a mistake without one.
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| | I said that we were all clear for... ..Lunch NOT Launch! Doh! | |
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|  hambone42Peace, through superior firepowerPremium
join:2002-02-02
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1 edit | Re: I said that we were all clear for... said by JoeBubba:..Lunch NOT Launch! Doh! Obviously there were too many baritos on board.
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join:2000-10-12
Homestead, FL | Clone? Don't most companies great a clone Satellite just for this reason? It doesn't cost much more to make a second one. | |
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| Re: Clone? No becuase every sat is different, and is matched for what it will be doing.
C band vs ku band vs ka band how many transponders there are to how big the solar panels to batteries are.
I believe it take 18 or 12 (cant remember) months to build one today. | |
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| | Who pays for this? Is it the company who bought the sat, the company who launched (and destroyed) the sat, or are private launches like this insured? | |
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|  Toguro
join:2003-10-23
Ottawa, IL | Re: Who pays for this? Most of the time projects like this are heavily insured. | |
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|  nixenRockin' the BoxenPremium
join:2002-10-04
Alexandria, VA | said by Camelot One:Is it the company who bought the sat, the company who launched (and destroyed) the sat, or are private launches like this insured? Can't think of too many commercial launches that are uninsured.
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|  kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY | said by Camelot One:Is it the company who bought the sat, the company who launched (and destroyed) the sat, or are private launches like this insured? Dunno but it could easily be Russian - the male voice was counting back in Russian...;)
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| not good. Boeing will find what happened.
Aleast its not as bad as when galaxy 4 went silent in 1998. Or when in 1999 when galaxy 10 was lost on take off.
I give boeing credit on this. Aleast it was out in the ocean and not at the cape or andrews air base where poeple could have been hurt or killed from it. | |
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| | | Re: not good. Boeing only built the satellite. The rocket was Ukranian. | |
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| Re: not good. You are wrong boeing takes all the heat from a problem like this. Second Sea Launch Company, LLC, is an international partnership of American, Russian, Ukrainian and Norwegian businesses.
Does it say American? yes it does we build it too. Its like making stuff in china and building it here saying its made in america.  | |
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| | | | | Re: not good. The rocket which failed and exploded was Ukranian. Blame is irrelevant... you said Boeing would "fix it" like it was Boeing's problem. They built the satellite, it was paid for. Sea Launch used a Ukranian rocket to carry the payload, and it exploded. Thus, the issue is that of Sea Launch. The payload was irrelevant, it just happened to be a Boeing-built satellite.
I haven't seen where Boeing is taking any sort of heat for a problem that isn't even related to them.
As far as the diatribe regarding something saying "american." Wow! I don't know where to begin. I don't think Focus Factor would even be of any use in your case... Let me put it this way: THE ROCKET WAS NOT PRODUCED IN THE UNITED STATES OR CHINA. What were you smoking? | |
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join:2002-07-09
Sunnyvale, CA
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| Re: not good. said by GreysAnatomy :
They built the satellite, it was paid for. It was not paid for, the deal was for In Orbit Delivery and any money Boinc will receive will be from their own insurance, not the customer or the customers insurance.
The attempt to direct the blame from Boinc to Sea Launch is flawed by the 40% ownership that Boinc has in Sea Launch 
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THE ROCKET WAS NOT PRODUCED IN THE UNITED STATES OR CHINA. What were you smoking?
Did i say it was BUILT in china? Did i say those words. NOPE.
Parts of the rocket are made here in america. They dont ship the rocket payload and all from russia. what are you snoring!!! the Payload is put where? »www.sea-launch.com/slfacilities.htm | |
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join:2001-05-31
Greenwich, CT | Glad someone got it I thought it got in the air when it blew I did not know it was still on the platform  | |
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|  BuriedCaesarIt's Not Polite To Stare.
join:2004-03-27
Richardson, TX
1 edit | Re: Glad someone got it Looked like it never even went "up" - everything seemed to go down into the fireball. Too bad the video cut off as soon as it did. Sure would like to see the rest of it.
The engines are supposed to be on the bottom of the rocket, right?
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| | Subaru1-3-2-4Premium
join:2001-05-31
Greenwich, CT | Re: Glad someone got it said by BuriedCaesar:The engines are supposed to be on the bottom of the rocket, right? Yep | |
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| |  Combat ChuckToo Many CannibalsPremium
join:2001-11-29
Erie, PA | said by BuriedCaesar:Looked like it never even went "up" - everything seemed to go down into the fireball. Your right it didn't go up at all. The engines are started early to give it time to stabilize and then at 0 the hold down devices release if everything looks good. It looks to me like the rocket tipped over just after the engines were lit; like one or more of the hold down clamps or whatever they're attached to failed.
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| said by BuriedCaesar:The engines are supposed to be on the bottom of the rocket, right? DOH! That's what they did wrong... 
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD | Yikes! Oh the humanity? | |
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| Warez_ZealotRural land of the rising sun
join:2006-04-19
japan | Re: Satellite internet said by ofacesig:Satellite broadband capacity has never been that great to begin with. I can understand using this capacity for the middle east and Africa. However Europe should know better. Some eastern parts of Europe are like africa and middle east in the way of being war torn and still re-building.. So those countries would benefit from sat inet. (since there is no alternative)
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| | | Re: Sat BB is crap anyway. ROFLMAO! How true. | |
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| | dang..... Those "auto destruct" buttons look an awful lot like "LAUNCH" so it's easy to get the two confused.
Houston........ we have a problem..... | |
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| | accident or sabotage? Me thinks our government wouldn't want those countries to have any more internet access than they really need. Or maybe none at all...
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|  RetroMUFCCenter Forward
join:2003-02-05
Bethel, NC | Re: accident or sabotage? You can hear the "oh no" in her voice
"go inertiaaaaaaaaal....."
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| | | | Re: accident or sabotage? said by RetroMUFC:You can hear the "oh no" in her voice "go inertiaaaaaaaaal....." LOL! I thought it said "Go in ocean" when I first heard it. | |
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|  RideRedVista needs a popup blocker for VistaPremium
join:2005-06-18
USA | Yeah, maybe it was run into by a black helicopter | |
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| ritteam
join:2003-10-24
Eatonville, WA | It was in retaliation for China's attack on their weather satellite. We are saying see you might hit ours in the air but yours wont even make it off the GROUND!!! PWNED!!! | |
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join:2000-10-10
Lake Arrowhead, CA | I guess this means DTV future HD not jepordized If Christopher Lloyd is to be believed, at least this launch failure doesn't affect DTV's eventual* HD expansion.
I mean eventual with the least amount of sarcasm possible.
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join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK | Chinese: "All Your Broadband Are belong to Us!" Someone set us up the bomb! | |
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join:2005-01-11
Brownsburg, IN | Re: Chinese: "All Your Broadband Are belong to Us!" Somebody is pissed, I am guessing... | |
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join:2001-01-25
Mechanicsville, VA | Hopefully... We will get a moment by moment play from drjim 
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|  drjimPremium,MVM
join:2000-06-13
Long Beach, CA
kudos:3
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| Re: Hopefully... Well, I wish I could, but we're doing a "Lockdown" right now, like with the Challenger and Columbia disasters. SOP in this business when you have an "anomaly" like this.
It sure was LOUD, though! 
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join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
kudos:4 | Idiots Launching from an oil drigging rig. what brainiac thought of that? why not just launch from the roof of a dynamite factory?
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|  tcp1Premium
join:2000-04-17
Herndon, VA
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| Re: Idiots said by dvd536:Launching from an oil drigging rig. what brainiac thought of that? why not just launch from the roof of a dynamite factory? You're joking, right? | |
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|  THZNDUPDeorum Offensa Diis CuraePremium
join:2003-09-18
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kudos:2 | That ex-drilling platform was modified then moved to the Pacific. It wasn't used for drilling out there.
The Launch Platform—or LP—a former North Sea oil drilling platform, was refurbished at the Rosenberg Shipyard in Stavanger, Norway. The vessel is one of the largest semi-submersible, self-propelled vessels in the world at 436 feet long, about 220 wide, with an empty draft displacement of 30,000 tons, and a submerged draft displacement of 50,600 tons.
The Launch Platform provides accommodations for 68 crew and launch system personnel—including living, dining, medical and recreation facilities. It is equipped with a large, environmentally controlled hangar for storage of the Sea Launch rocket during transit, and with mobile transporter/erector equipment that is used to roll out and erect the rocket in launch position prior to fueling and launch. Special facilities onboard enable the storage of rocket fuels (kerosene and liquid oxygen) sufficient for each mission.
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join:2000-04-17
Herndon, VA Reviews:
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| Re: Idiots said by THZNDUP:That ex-drilling platform was modified then moved to the Pacific. It wasn't used for drilling out there. Yep. I just didn't want to be so obvious as to say "Umm, I think they thought of that, sport."
I (heart) the internet. | |
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join:2003-09-18
Lard
kudos:2 | Re: Idiots Sometimes it takes a two by four to get their attention first though..... | |
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|  TransmasterDon't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
1 edit | We all know what happened......really
Emperor Ming of Mongo, who is known on Broadband Reports as The Taylor Troll. |
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1 edit | LOL »www.navigon.net/sl/
Thought about e-mailing the contact person listed on the website and let them know their launch platform camera isn't working. ROFLMAO!
That's what you get for using Russian junk. | |
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| Re: LOL said by digitalfreak:» www.navigon.net/sl/Thought about e-mailing the contact person listed on the website and let them know their launch platform camera isn't working. ROFLMAO! That's what you get for using Russian junk. russian junk?
Hum while we where GROUNDED with the space shuttle crap they where making flights to the ISS to keep it running. Sounds like they are doing good if you ask me.
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| drjimPremium,MVM
join:2000-06-13
Long Beach, CA
kudos:3 Reviews:
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| The Russians DO NOT make "junk". Their stuff might not be as "pretty" as ours, but considering it's meant to be used in really bad weather, and maintained out in the field under adverse conditions, it doesn't have to be "pretty", it just has to work. And it does. This really is "Rocket Science", and things like this happen. It's not any more reasonable to expect 100% reliability from these systems than it is to expect 100% reliability from anything else. These are very complex machines, built to extremely high tolerances, operating at the edge of the technology.
Besides, the webcam and all of it's support equipment is US-provided.
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| | | Re: DirectTv is so screwed Nope they can switch to the Arianespace to get it off the ground. | |
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