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Comments on news posted 2007-02-06 08:43:37: While there were early hints of such a move, Wal-Mart has now thrown their hat completely into the broadband video ring. ..

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Rob
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$20 for a "near DVD" ?

No Thanks. I rather hunt through Wal-Mart's 2 for $10 DVD Box that they have in front of their electronics department than pay $20 bucks (plus my Internet connection!) to watch a "near DVD" quality video that doesn't even play in a traditional DVD Player.

Derspankster
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Re: $20 for a "near DVD" ?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Damn, I just pulled a muscle! The worst part of all this is that there will actually be some people that download these. Kind of scarey, really
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TechieZero
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LOL Walmart.

Even if it was HD quality I wouldn't grab it.

RockCake
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Same here. I beefed up my collection quite a bit thanks to that bargain box.

AmnChode
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San Antonio, TX

Re: $20 for a "near DVD" ?

ditto...that is one of my favorite stops in Wal-Mart...and my wife's most hated

johnny_t
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Rent & Burn > All what is it 30$/month for three at once(?) around eighty or so in a month

Edit: Hypothetically of course

dvd536
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Re: $20 for a "near DVD" ?

said by johnny_t:

Rent & Burn > All what is it 30$/month for three at once(?) around eighty or so in a month

Edit: Hypothetically of course
not if they throttle!
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johnny_t
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Re: $20 for a "near DVD" ?

said by dvd536:

said by johnny_t:

Rent & Burn > All what is it 30$/month for three at once(?) around eighty or so in a month

Edit: Hypothetically of course
not if they throttle!
They don't ''throttle'' at stores

mob
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you pay $10? I only grab the $5 or $7 "special release" editions of bad 80's action flicks. Arnie, Chuck Norris, Jean Claude, Dolph Lundgren all have a special place on my dvd rack, namely the "oh my god these are covered in dust and I forgot I had these" section. Its great to see all those horrible movies with the awful plots, worse acting and terrible one liners.

But seriously, who would want to pay the same cost as the regular DVD and get less?

fAcEtIOUs
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Way too much money for the functionality. Get the actual DVD from Amazon.com or elsewhere and it will be at your house in 2 days. Only those people who need "instant gratification" for their every whim will use the download from WalMart or another web site.
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aztecnology
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Re: $20 for a "near DVD" ?

said by fAcEtIOUs:

Way too much money for the functionality. Get the actual DVD from Amazon.com or elsewhere and it will be at your house in 2 days. Only those people who need "instant gratification" for their every whim will use the download from WalMart or another web site.
How instant can it be, if you have to download it...?

I just don't see a market for this, unless it was priced at about $5...
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snipper_cr
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Instant gratification? Hell, I can go to my TV with Comcast ONDEMAND and order many movies either for free, or from 2-4 bucks. If i want HD quality, I usually drop 6 bucks.
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bpx

join:2003-01-25
Saint Augustine, FL

Re: $20 for a "near DVD" ?

Thats what I am talking about. Netflix and Walmart will not last in this department. "Ok, family, lets huddle around my pc and watch this movie that I downloaded, even though I just bought a 61 in HDTV." phuck that
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kyramilan

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I want my DVDs but not at WalMart Downloads for MORE than in the Store!
jeraden

join:2002-06-10
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Brilliant!

Wow, pay the same price as a DVD, but with less features, poorer quality, more hassle in obtaining, and more limitations in viewing. Brilliant! I'm surprised more companies didn't think of this sooner!

albie81
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are they bent?

did i really just read that?

$20... for a "near DVD" quality video, that has DRM that disallows you to burn a conventional-player disc?

shoot.. for $20, or LESS... i can just buy the actual disk.

pleekmo
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DOA

Yes, I agree with the first two posters: this will turn out to be a dud with the technorati and will be adopted only by losers.
Mechano

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Antarctica

Wa L mart

Is the L in the Wal Mart standing for LOOSERS ?! what a stupid idea !

hamburglar_

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Re: Wa L mart

Don't know if they're "loose", but they might be "losers"
Goldman

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No Thank You

Not Interested

BIGDOG_3

join:2002-09-27
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Re: No Thank You

$20? YOU GOTTA BE F____IN KIDDING ME.
jesseb_66

join:2002-12-06
Tucson, AZ

Re: No Thank You

horrible idea

gowalmart

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Re: No Thank You

horrible for the people that know better, but just think of the bottom line, I bet they are going to make a killing!

They COUNT on the people that don't know any better!

mph300
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haven't they heard us yet.......

ahem.....all you folks at riaa, mpaa and various digital content vendors, please pay attention in class.

the people have made their opinion known and most will not download something that is lesser quality, lesser features, no packaging, no literature, containing restrictive drm and pay for it and surely not if it is equally priced to the brick and mortar product. the idea and the power of internet shopping is to make it easier(read cheaper) on vendors and customers, thus lowering prices to said customers.

some people might even be offended by you lame offerings and copy products out of spite and share them with all they can just to sabotage your previously mentioned lame effort at digital content downloads.

just my thoughts today.

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Re: haven't they heard us yet.......

But the problem is, enough people haven't made their opinion known (and more direct to the point, haven't voted with their wallet). To make matters worse, people will purchase and download this product from Walmart. I seriously doubt that it will be a huge success, but people will use it.

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What are they thinking

First, I did do their download for Superman. I did the portable and PC version for about $5. The DRM was kind of a pain, so I removed it so that I could convert it to DIVX, put it on my flash drive and play it on my in-laws Samsung 5.1 Theater system.

However, this new pricing is not going to fly. I checked Office Space. They want almost $10 to download it. On Amazon you can get the enhanced widescreen edition on DVD for about $13. Or you can download it from them for $3.

I would use the service if the prices were less than $5. And yes, I know how to burn it to a DVD that works on anything.

Rick
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I wouldn't fault Walmart too much

As everyone knows, whenever possible they do offer the low price..always.

While the article says they have significant leverage because of their massive buying power it's doubtfull they had much to do with THESE kinds of prices.

These studios and industry associations simply are not going to let downloading become the cheap way out for consumers and cannibalize on the party they've had going on for years now.

I'd suspect that Walmart has slashed their profits to the bare minimum in order to even do what they're doing.

And we ALL know where the REAL money is going to.
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Re: I wouldn't fault Walmart too much

said by Rick:

I'd suspect that Walmart has slashed their profits to the bare minimum in order to even do what they're doing.
Considering Walmart's clout, I seriously doubt your suspicion.
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Interesting that. Walmart sells something like 40% of all DVD's sold in the United States. They are one of the major stumbling blocks that Apple has run into in selling movies via Itunes, and they hold considerable sway when it comes to pricing DVD's, Blueray, and HD-DVD's.
Personally, for me it is just one more thing I will not buy from Walmart.
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Circuit City Tried This

It was called Divx and the DVDs would only work for a period of time and you had to have a Divx player...Blah Blah Blah....

You know why Divx players and DVDs are not around? It didn't work.

I wouldn't pay the same price to download near DVD quality as I could to have the DVD in my hand with extras. Heck. buy two and most places send it for free.

BF69
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Reason for high price is clear

The more peole download athen less physical DVD are bought. And that means less DVDs, boxes, artwork etc etc to manufacture and that would put some poor Chinese or Indian person out of a job. Wal-mart wouldn't want to do that. They only put Americans out of work.

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Re: Reason for high price is clear

said by BF69:

The more peole download athen less physical DVD are bought. And that means less DVDs, boxes, artwork etc etc to manufacture and that would put some poor Chinese or Indian person out of a job. Wal-mart wouldn't want to do that. They only put Americans out of work.
I am happy some See's the truth. Always low prices at
CHINA-MART
rick1991

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Re: Reason for high price is clear

I always refer to them as the Great Wal of China.

Kilroy
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And when this fails...

They will blame it on piracy. Sorry **IA, we don't want your DRM. We don't want to pay the same price for essentially nothing. We don't want poor quality when we're paying for HD. We don't want to have to pay more than once for the same content, PSP, DVD, HD-DVD, Blu-ray, computer, Palm, iPod, etc.

What we do want is to pay a reasonable price for high quality entertainment that we control after purchase.
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rudnicke
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Wow

These retailers just don't get it.

ifarrell

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Willow Spring, NC

Re: Wow

Proving once again that Walmart, **AA and their ilk just don't get it.
Give us better than DVD quality for less than half the cost of DVD, allow us to burn to and play on a DVD player, then we are going some place.
Walmart is just another "me too" with all the crap that Walmart usually produces.

Jason Levine
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Tough choice

Let's see... I have $20. I can either drive to the nearest store (or browse an online shop) and buy the movie on DVD or I can buy the movie from Walmart's movie download service.

With the DVD I can watch it on my PC, my DVD player, or my in-laws' DVD player. I can loan it to a friend. I can also watch the extras after I'm done with the movie itself.

With Walmart's download service, I can only watch it on my computer. I'm allowed to back it up 3 times, but not to a format that will play on my DVD player. I can't lend it to my friend or watch it in another room/house unless I have it on a laptop. (And lending a laptop to your friend so they can watch a movie is overkill.) I also don't get to watch any extras.

No thanks, I'll stick with DVDs.

Oh, and is anyone else having problems browsing »mediadownloads.walmart.com/ with FireFox? It looks fine in IE, but FireFox renders the page as an unstyled mess.

birdfeedr
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Re: Tough choice

said by Jason Levine:

Let's see... I have $20.

Oh, and is anyone else having problems browsing »mediadownloads.walmart.com/ with FireFox? It looks fine in IE, but FireFox renders the page as an unstyled mess.
Not sure about the $20. I did not RTFA, it's pointless. The DSLR abstract does say $20, but when I go to the Walmart site, it looks like the highest price is $14.88, with some cheaper.

DSLR abstract also says "it will only work on XP & Vista with IE." If that's the case, the scrambled styling for non-IE browsers is a pre-screening for compatibility. Ya think?

If you can't see it, how can you order it? It will help cut down on returns "because it doesn't work on my computer".

Jason Levine
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Re: Tough choice

said by birdfeedr:

Not sure about the $20. I did not RTFA, it's pointless. The DSLR abstract does say $20, but when I go to the Walmart site, it looks like the highest price is $14.88, with some cheaper.
Actually, the article says that new movies will cost up to $19.88 but that older films will cost up to $9.88.

said by birdfeedr:

DSLR abstract also says "it will only work on XP & Vista with IE." If that's the case, the scrambled styling for non-IE browsers is a pre-screening for compatibility. Ya think?
I somehow missed that line in the abstract (and it wasn't in the article). I guess, as a web developer, I just assume that it's standard practice to make your website viewable in most browsers (or provide a page explaining why it isn't). Silly me.

said by birdfeedr:

If you can't see it, how can you order it? It will help cut down on returns "because it doesn't work on my computer".
How would you return a digital download? (Not that a "no returns" policy wouldn't stop some people from trying.)
wizzle
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site not firefox optimized

looks great in IE.

looks like garbage in firefox.
quatrix
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Re: site not firefox optimized

It doesn't have to be "Firefox-optimized", just standards-compliant. And it's not.

bpx

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Probably looks like more garbage streaming it to your HDTV, provided people have the skills to do this. I would assume most people wouldnt even bother when they can just drive down and go the Blockbuster. I know how to do this, but why, its a pain in the ass.
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bohn

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Scarborough, ON

Canadians don't have to worry

Our balls are caps tied to the sides of fire hydrants. Even if we could download them which we can't then we couldn't anyway because we'd lose our house and car etc when we get the bill for going over our caps.
sailor
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Stating $20.00 in the Write Up is Misleading!

Sorry, but everyone is harping about the $20.00 but that is very misleading the way this news article here was written..

By saying:

"For $20.00, you can download "near DVD" quality video from the Walmart website"

The posted article itself says UP to $20.00.

I personally don't care for Walmart but if you are going to present a front page news story, at least present it factually.

Here is an article stating the prices:

The nation's largest retailer is using its buying power to beat the prices charged by other download services in many cases, offering films from $12.88 to $19.88 and individual TV episodes for $1.96 — 4 cents less than Apple Inc.'s iTunes store.

Apple charges less for some films sold on iTunes — $12.99 when pre-ordered and during the first week of sale, or $14.99 afterward. But it only carries films from two studios, The Walt Disney Co. and Viacom Inc.'s Paramount Studios.

Wal-Mart's online store will sell older titles starting at $7.50, compared with the $9.99 charged by iTunes

»news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070206/ap_···ownloads

Maxo
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Re: Stating $20.00 in the Write Up is Misleading!

I was about the post the same thing. Not all movies are $20 (most aren't.) You can also purchase a single episode of some shows for a much smaller prices. Chappelle season 1 episodes are going for $1.96.

It's still too pricey for me though.

CPUYODA

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Re: Stating $20.00 in the Write Up is Misleading!

Especially when you can rent most of those shows at Blockbuster....

Jason Levine
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Re: Stating $20.00 in the Write Up is Misleading!

Which actually brings up the main form of competition that Walmart would be facing with me. Discover Card gives me the option of taking my Cashback bonus as Hollywood Video coupons. Each one is good for a free movie rental. There are 10 in a pack and each one costs $20 in Cashback bonus. This means that I effectively get movie rentals for $2 each.

So even in the optimal (for Walmart) case of me buying TV episodes for $1.96 each, my $20 would get me about 10 episodes. Meanwhile, my movie rental coupons would get me about 30 episodes (assuming a mere 3 episodes per disc and assuming that each disc requires its own coupon).

Of course, if you want to get picky about owning vs renting, then I could buy the entire fifth season of Smallville (to pick an example) for $39.99 (Amazon.com) versus buying it via Walmart's download service for $43.12. The usual arguments of extras and playing on DVD players apply.

nixen
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Gah...

$20 per video for a limited-use format with less than 3K titles to chose from. Sign me right the hell up. Does Wal-Mart only sell "radio edit" versions of movies the same way they do (did?) music?

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Please take my $20.....

Yeah right, I rarely give a brick and motar Wal-Mart Store the time of day, and I'm sure as heck not going to give them my $20 for "near-dvd quality" when I can order the dvd for near $20 or even less.

dadkins
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Buy? Won't play? DRM?

Uhm, screw all that!
I RENT DVDs for $1.00($0.99 actually), so tell me again why I would even think about buying a trashed "near DVD" that won't play?


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One of the Movie Selections

The First Turd, staring Jane Fonda, and Tom Cruise. produced and Directed by Mel Gibson. A sterling performance about mankind's first bowel movement.

A Walmart exclusive download. Yours for only 31.95 from The Walmart online video store

NowVOIP
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Re: One of the Movie Selections

ROFLMAO!

furlonium
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Re: Buy? Won't play? DRM?

said by dadkins:

Uhm, screw all that!
I RENT DVDs for $1.00($0.99 actually), so tell me again why I would even think about buying a trashed "near DVD" that won't play?


YAH! YAH! YOU TELL EM, DADKINS!
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Who has the right to tell me when and where I can watch my own purchased content.

Not to mention the aspect of content delivery. I pay for the movie, I pay for the bandwidth to get said movie, I don't get a shiny box or glossy chapter cards, or even the cool shiny disc and I get the luxury of paying more for this limited software movie?

Even a measly $5 for "Red Heat" is asking way too much in this scenario.

This is a trend, people. Corporate America thinks you make too much money and want some of it. Prove them wrong.

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