ronpin
Imagine Reality
join:2002-12-06
Nirvana
 ·AT&T Southwest
1 edit | Look at the total costs
I dumped AT&T when I finally looked at the outrageous cost of landline phone service. Most cable companies offer a closed-loop VoIP service that when packaged with broadband and cable TV is actually much cheaper than it may look. Do the math.
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P Ness
You'Ve Forgotten 9-11 Already
Premium
join:2001-08-29
Mineola, NY
clubs:  | WOW Shocking
Mergers don't reduce prices?
WOW who would have guessed. |
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Placebo
Premium
join:2005-12-14
Huntley, IL
 ·Comcast
| reply to ronpin
Re: Look at the total costs
But, then I'd have to put up with Cable rate increases...
I've managed to survive with DSL for the past year after switching away from Comcast. I indeed miss the speed, but my overall bill is significantly lower than it was with Comcast.
As always, your total cost depends on the options you throw on top of the basic services. |
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mlbSAE
join:2000-08-01
Dayton, OH
·DONet
| reply to ronpin
said by ronpin  :I dumped AT&T when I finally looked at the outrageous cost of landline phone service. Most cable companies offer a closed-loop VoIP service that when packaged with broadband and cable TV is actually much cheaper than it may look. Do the math. That math depends on where you are located, and what you bundle.
I switched from cable TV, voip, internet (all Time Warner), and 2 cell phones to AT&T/Cingular/Dish Network. In the end I ended up saving approximately $40 a month and got more channels on the TV. 2 cell phones, a land line, DSL (with faster speeds, mind you), and Dish Network all bundled together has been great. |
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anonone
@af.mil | Advertised u-verse prices appear unchanged
There does not appear to be a pricing change on the u-verse website. Is this price change coming or is this because they are charging for installs? |
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Amadeus
Premium
join:2005-05-02
Miami, FL | reply to P Ness
Re: WOW Shocking
lol..
How long do you think it will be before they split att up again?
I think before 2010  |
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Toguro
join:2003-10-23
Ottawa, IL | Banc of AMERICA
Banc or Bank |
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RadioDoc
58ef2c0
Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11
·AT&T Midwest
| Banc of America = Not FDIC insured, investment products.
Bank of America = FDIC insured, banking products.
It's a way to isolate one from the other marketing-wise. A bank can't really offer investments directly so they put up these subsidiaries to keep the regulators happy.
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John T
@northgrum.com
| Unsurprising
I've seen multiple reports over the last year or two that the sales growth from cheap $19.95/month 768kbps DSL was considerably slowing. It seems that a lot of the people who were willing to switch from dial-up to DSL for the same rate have already switched. Kind of confusing to me, since there still seems to be people on dialup, but then again I'm not them.
Since the sales growth from people switching to get $19.95/month barely-broadband DSL was already slowing, many of the companies started suspending those offers for new customers. "Introductory DSL prices" rose 34% precisely because those offers ended, and fewer of the new customers were going for the cheap broadband.
There are quite a few different types of broadband customers. Some people are primarily motivated by price, and will even stick to dial-up rather than switch (at least until they've tried something faster.) Some people have to have dialup, but don't care much between a 768kbps connection that you and I dismiss as not really broadbadn and a 5 or 10 Mbps connection or even faster.
Others of us crave speed and are willing to spend $10 extra per month-- or more-- to get 15Mbps or 30Mbps down and 5 Mbps up from FiOS.
So with that kind of situation one should not expect at all a commodity market with people competing on price alone, especially not when the technologies involved are quite different. Some plans, like $19.95/month barely broadband DSL, are entirely designed to get people to give up dial-up and try broadband. Some more expensive offerings are aimed at people like me.
The recent moves are in large part because of a shift away from chasing the customer who needs to switch from dialup, to chasing the customer willing to pay a few extra dollars for more speed.
"The report notes that the average bundle of local phone, long-distance and DSL service rose 3% in a year."
After several years of falling prices, it notes, as the companies were chasing prospective dial-up switchers. And unadjusted for the 2.5% overall inflation in the year. |
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ninjatutle
Premium
join:2006-01-02
San Ramon, CA | reply to Toguro
Re: Banc of AMERICA
Its a major banc in Mexico. We're not the only America.
They also have Will's Fargo down there. |
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
Premium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK
1 edit | Meet the new Boss!
.... same as the old Boss! |
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Maxo
Your tax dollars at work.
Premium,VIP
join:2002-11-04
Tallahassee, FL
clubs:
| The price war is already over
We had the price war about three or four years ago. DSL hit rock bottom prices. DSL is still much cheaper and faster than it used to be. In '02 (I think) SBC was selling 768kbps for $50/month. Now you can get twice that for ~$20. It could double and would still be cheaper than it was. I don't see a cause for alarm. |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
·DSL EXTREME
| reply to Placebo
Re: Look at the total costs
Very true...
TimeWarner VoIP = $44.95 (intro discounts + bundled discounts available)
AT&T unlimited local + ld = $44.95 (bundled discounts available)
TW: $34.95 1.5Mbps, $44.95 6Mbps, $54.95 (10 or 15Mbps) (bundled discounts available, and into discounts)
DSL (AT&T or in my case, DSL-Extreme) = $12.95 (768/384), $17.95 1.5/384 $22.95 3Mbps/512, $32.95 6Mbps/768 (I pay $2/month more as those were 1st year pricing. AT&T gives bundled discounts)
TW: Digital TV $44.95 for basic digital TV + franchise fees. (intro + bundled discounts available) $9.95 / extra tv
DirecTv: $44.95 for digital, $5/extra TV
They're all similar... however, it typically makes sense to use satellite/DSL/POTS OR cable/HSI/VoIP for pricing. |
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Loker
Premium
join:2004-07-11
Fargo, ND
clubs:
| Welcome Back Ma Bell We Missed You
I think the rates are going up because like someone previously said....the $19.99 promotion rates are being suspended because not many are signing up for them anymore....
Now my theory on THAT is the telco's have reached a sort of critical mass in aquiring dial up users, the limiting factor being the range from the CO! there are still PLENTY of dial up users that would jump at that DSL offering but they are unable to because of distance.....
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Toguro
join:2003-10-23
Ottawa, IL | reply to RadioDoc
Re: Banc of AMERICA
Thanks I forgot about banc opopular and so fourth ,I just assumed it was a type o. |
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crazyoregonian
@comcast.net
 from:
BillRoland
| Innocent?
So I guess that the cable companies aren't the only ones playing "jack up my prices"
Those who live in glass houses... |
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BillRoland
Premium
join:2001-01-21
Ocala, FL
clubs:
·Cox HSI
| said by crazyoregonian :
So I guess that the cable companies aren't the only ones playing "jack up my prices"
Those who live in glass houses...
I was going to say the same thing. Looks like we've turned a corner here at DSLR, we've had a revelation.
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dynodb
Premium,VIP
join:2004-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
| 3% ? Yawn.
Come on... a 3% increase for bundled service? That barely keeps pace with inflation. Color me unconcerned.
As for the 34% increase, the article (though not providing examples) says that's for stand-alone DSL, though I'm not sure how they arrived at that figure.
Given the price drops and introductory deals, DSL prices for a given speed have dropped significantly over the past year or two- how long that will last is anyone's guess. |
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Fatal Vector
join:2005-11-26 | reply to Loker
Re: Welcome Back Ma Bell We Missed You
Ummmm....$19.95 for 1.5 DSL is the current standard, no contract pricing from AT&T |
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Fatal Vector
join:2005-11-26
| reply to dynodb
Re: 3% ? Yawn.
"Given the price drops and introductory deals, DSL prices for a given speed have dropped significantly over the past year or two- how long that will last is anyone's guess."
Not long. Ma Bell is just about back together. All it will take is another merger or two, then we'll be sorry. |
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