  Matt Take me down to the paradise city Premium join:2003-07-20 Jamestown, NC | iTunes and all DRM?
Is he suggesting everyone stop buying digital music with DRM and instead buy DRM free CD's?
How else do you "suggest" to the music companies we don't want DRM? -- Use the OS tool for the job. |
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  Cozworth Premium join:2003-06-10 england clubs:   | He speaks much sense!
But I am not sure I believe his altruistic message.
Its not us so blame someone else! |
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  mrchris We don't miss you Bush Premium join:2002-10-01 North Babylon, NY | Go for it
Just do it and ignore the corporate fat cats. |
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  Doctor Four My other vehicle is a TARDIS Premium join:2000-09-05 Dallas, TX
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| Maybe he should court EMI first
Not only does EMI hold the rights to a lot of artists not on iTunes (I think the Beatles are one), but it is the only one of the Big Four that have even considered abandoning DRM, whether on digital downloads or CDs. -- "The trouble with computers, of course, is that they are very sophisticated idiots." - Doctor Who (from Robot) |
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  BillRoland Premium join:2001-01-21 Ocala, FL clubs: | A True Visionary
That's what visionaries do: pontificate and leave the details on how to make it reality to somebody else. -- "Don't steal. The government hates competition." |
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  Dream Killer Graveyard Shift Premium join:2002-08-09 Forest Hills, NY clubs: | reply to mrchris Re: Go for it
The record industry and personal computing industry should be totally separate. I still think Gates and Jobs should just ignore their complaint and just build great non-DRM infested OSes. |
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  thender2 Glamour Profession Premium join:2004-05-16 Staten Island, NY | Apple vs RIAA
Seems like a fair fight.
RIAA vs poor college student or struggling mother was always obvious. I'd like to see Microsoft, or Apple take on the RIAA and win. |
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 UofMiamiGrad Premium join:2001-02-03 Great Neck, NY
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From the WSJ article:
Such a move, if embraced by music companies, could eliminate one of the biggest criticisms of Apple's current hold on the digital music market -- that music sold over the Internet by most of Apple's rivals doesn't play on iPods, while songs from Apple's iTunes Store don't play on rival hardware devices.
»online.wsj.com/article/SB1170792···929.html
I recall there being lawsuits already alleging monopoly by Apple due to the above. Hope the record companies take Jobs advice though. |
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  mrchris We don't miss you Bush Premium join:2002-10-01 North Babylon, NY | reply to thender2 Re: Apple vs RIAA
How long before the pro-RIAA/DRM trolls chime in? |
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  N3OGH Bear patrol must be working like a charm Premium join:2003-11-11 Philly burbs | Or the anti Apple trolls..... |
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  thender2 Glamour Profession Premium join:2004-05-16 Staten Island, NY
| For the record, I am an anti-apple troll. To me, the iPod represents everything I dislike - ease of use, pop culture appeal, and form over function, features and performance.
However, you can't compare Apple to the RIAA. Apple is the guy who looked at your girlfriend just to catch a glance then looked back down, whereas the RIAA fucked your girlfriend, who then fucked you and consequently gave you AIDS. -- The Problem With Music.
Our Rationale
Time to rewrite the DMCA. |
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 vanDSLuser Unimaxx for your biz Premium join:2004-07-28 West Vancouver, BC
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| I don't get the move
Unless it's just fluff for PR purposes.
-FairPlay forces people to use iPods to play iTunes store music -Apple is the only company that makes iPods
Therefore DRM forcing people to buy iPods would be good from Apple's perspective hence this move by Jobs to say that eliminating DRM is a good thing doesn't make any sense.
Now, don't get me wrong, I think DRM is for the birds, it just makes no sense to me why Apple would want to allow their music to be played on other players. |
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  N3OGH Bear patrol must be working like a charm Premium join:2003-11-11 Philly burbs
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Great analogy, but if I may, I would add to it:
"Apple is the guy who looked at your girlfriend just to catch a glance then looked back down, whereas the RIAA fucked raped your girlfriend, and didn't tell anyone he had AIDS who then fucked you and consequently gave you AIDS.
And herpes too, ya gotta add herpes.... -- Never ask what sort of a computer a guy drives. If he's a Mac user, he'll tell you. If not, why embarrass him? -Tom Clancy |
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 Zorglub
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What he says is right. It'd a lot simpler if songs were DRM free. Buy it once, and play it wherever you want (PC, Ipod, car, cell phone). It's simple and it does not treat the customers as a bunch of thieves. |
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I like yours better N3OGH 
Oops you now owe me a keyboard. |
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  brooklynman4
join:2004-09-07 Brooklyn, NY | reply to Zorglub Re: While one can question Jobs' motives
Making room for hd technology maybe?? |
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  rexbinary Mod King Premium join:2005-01-26 Plano, TX
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said by vanDSLuser :Now, don't get me wrong, I think DRM is for the birds, it just makes no sense to me why Apple would want to allow their music to be played on other players. Apple would still make money off the songs no matter what player they were on, plus people don't buy iPods for the 'lock in' as he stated. They buy them because they like them and work well, so removing the DRM wouldn't change that. -- Verizon FiOS 15/2 subscriber since 8/1/05 | Mac owner since 1990 | FreeBSD user since 2005 | Anyone who is unwilling to learn is entitled to absolutely nothing. | sudo sandwich | EDIT: I seldom post without an edit. |
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  Combat Chuck Too Many Cannibals Premium join:2001-11-29 Erie, PA
| reply to vanDSLuser said by vanDSLuser :Unless it's just fluff for PR purposes. Does Itunes offer any non DRM'd music for sale (ala emusic)?
Consider that as you decide how honest Jobs is being about his desire to see DRM eliminated. -- Revolution!!!... or some such nonsense. |
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  vice8686
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said by thender2 :I'd like to see Microsoft, or Apple take on the RIAA and win. Maybe together they'd have a good chance at winning. |
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  Da Geek Kid
join:2003-10-11 Mclean, VA | Steve Jobs the Hypocrite
hypocritically arrogant Steve says what??? He should take a look at his own company of locking hardware and software. He was hoping that RIAA unlocked the Hardware and their software(music)???
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