 shoan
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| thin line to tread
wouldn't "spotting the images" mean that the employees were looking for the images which could in turn get them thrown in jail for looking at the images. Im all for getting that stuff stopped. But it makes a dangerous line to tread for the person to report the stuff. Seems to me more the policing agency what ever level of government your at to be hunting for the images not joe blow at the ISP. I think it would open up a defense for someone looking at the stuff to say hey i was gathering information to report or block and try to get off of the charges. Oh and the obligatory "DO IT FOR THE CHILDREN!!!!!" |
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  hopeflicker Capitalism breeds greed Premium join:2003-04-03 Long Beach, CA
1 edit | OHH my!
if they spotted any illicit images of "real or 'cartoon' minors", or face fines up to $300,000. --------------
So is a cartoon of a nude minor consider child porn??
You know, i'll all against child p0rn, but come on, a cartoon?? -- Fossils, Not Gospels. |
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 brianiscool
join:2000-08-16 Miami, FL | Hee Hawww
Wow this won't pass! |
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 Icynav
join:2005-10-31 Deer Park, NY | be a good parent and pay attention to your child! bottom line! |
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 openbox9
join:2004-01-26 Alexandria, VA
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| reply to shoan Re: thin line to tread
"Whistle blowers" happen all of the time. It's not difficult to differentiate between those "actively searching" for illicit/illegal content and those simply "monitoring" content. It's actually more of a concern that ISPs would have to shoulder the cost burden of having people actually monitoring their customers' traffic. |
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  Karl Bode News Guy join:2000-03-02
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| reply to hopeflicker Re: OHH my!
So is this illegal? |
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  pokesph It Is Almost Fast Premium join:2001-06-25 Sacramento, CA clubs:
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| Bad for Anime fans..
Not good.. this will basically wipe out the anime sub-culture and make all those 'artists' criminals... not to mention all the websites that have that anime content..
How are they going to expect to enforce something like this when a WHOLE country (i.e. Japan) fully embraces it? |
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 russotto
join:2000-10-05 Collegeville, PA
| reply to hopeflicker Re: OHH my!
There are several laws making simulated child porn illegal. However, the Supreme Court has so far struck down those which have gotten to it. Congress will keep trying until they can put you in PMITA Federal Prison for a stick figure which is too short. |
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  Dagda1175
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said by pokesph :this will basically wipe out the anime sub-culture Hm. Now i might support this!  |
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  pnh102 Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty Premium join:2002-05-02 Mount Airy, MD
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| reply to brianiscool Re: Hee Hawww
said by brianiscool :Wow this won't pass! Uhhh... not only will this pass, but it will most likely pass by a unanimous vote in both the House of Representatives and the Senate. The last thing that any elected official wants is to be labelled as being "soft" on child pornography. -- Only SHATNER is Kirk. |
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 jarthur31
join:2006-04-14 Carlsbad, NM | reply to Icynav That makes too much sense. Are you sure you're American?!
This is very much akin to Sony thinking that all consumers who buy their CD's are pirates! Don't throw a blanket over everyone; go after the bad guys you lazy bastards!!! |
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 brianiscool
join:2000-08-16 Miami, FL | Lets see enable VPN in another country. My monitoring days are over : ) |
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  JTRockville Data Ho Premium,MVM join:2002-01-28 Rockville, MD clubs: | reply to Karl Bode Re: OHH my!
D@MN Karl Bode ! Now it's in my cache. I'm doomed. |
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  T1 Rocky
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| reply to openbox9 Re: thin line to tread
O yea, this is a great idea. And we should start holding the US highway transportation department responsible when drugs enter the country in vehicles. Everytime they find some mariguana in a hidden compartment in a car just grab a guy in an orange vest filling in a pot hole on the side of the street and drop him in the klink for 12 months. How can this plan fail?!?  |
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  Trinijoy Premium join:2005-09-12 Brick, NJ | yup
No one realizes this but a lot of patch downloaders for Games now run off of bit torrent, but no one seems to care about them. |
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  Combat Chuck Too Many Cannibals Premium join:2001-11-29 Erie, PA
| reply to pokesph Re: Bad for Anime fans..
said by pokesph :Not good.. this will basically wipe out the anime sub-culture and make all those 'artists' criminals... not to mention all the websites that have that anime content.. Lets clear something up here:
Anime is not the same as porn (child or otherwise). There is a subset of Anime that is porn, just as there is a subset of traditional film that is porn. -- Revolution!!!... or some such nonsense. |
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  CPanime
@pacbell.net | karl
naughty ....lol under this law u'd be fine or mahybe bbr for hosting the file  |
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  insomniac84
join:2002-01-03 Schererville, IN | They are forcing ISP employees to view child porn?
That is screwed up. If I worked at an ISP I would not want to have to search cached images for child porn nor should an ISP be forced to store such images on their servers. |
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  Jason Levine Premium join:2001-07-13 USA
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Not only that, but I'm sure that the Anime porn subset can be further divided into Anime "adult porn" in which the characters are of legal age and Anime "child porn" in which they aren't. Just like traditional film porn can be divided into these categories. So it doesn't even mean the end of Anime porn. |
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  hayabusa3303 Over 200 mph Premium join:2005-06-29 clubs:
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1 edit | This is up on CNN.
»www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/02···dex.html
To me it sounds like they are doing something even with a ISP bill.
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