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Comments on news posted 2007-02-07 15:44:02: Techdirt takes a look at two new bills being introduced in the Senate, both aimed at protecting the tots. The first (the "Safety Act" pdf) imposes data retention requirements on ISPs and would put ISP employees in jail for up to a year if they de.. ..

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shoan

join:2006-02-27
Benton, AR

thin line to tread

wouldn't "spotting the images" mean that the employees were looking for the images which could in turn get them thrown in jail for looking at the images. Im all for getting that stuff stopped. But it makes a dangerous line to tread for the person to report the stuff. Seems to me more the policing agency what ever level of government your at to be hunting for the images not joe blow at the ISP. I think it would open up a defense for someone looking at the stuff to say hey i was gathering information to report or block and try to get off of the charges. Oh and the obligatory "DO IT FOR THE CHILDREN!!!!!"


hopeflicker
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OHH my!

if they spotted any illicit images of "real or 'cartoon' minors", or face fines up to $300,000.
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So is a cartoon of a nude minor consider child porn??

You know, i'll all against child p0rn, but come on, a cartoon??
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brianiscool

join:2000-08-16
Miami, FL
Hee Hawww

Wow this won't pass!

Icynav

join:2005-10-31
Deer Park, NY
be a good parent and pay attention to your child! bottom line!

openbox9

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reply to shoan
Re: thin line to tread

"Whistle blowers" happen all of the time. It's not difficult to differentiate between those "actively searching" for illicit/illegal content and those simply "monitoring" content. It's actually more of a concern that ISPs would have to shoulder the cost burden of having people actually monitoring their customers' traffic.


Karl Bode
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Re: OHH my!

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So is this illegal?


pokesph
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Bad for Anime fans..

Not good.. this will basically wipe out the anime sub-culture and make all those 'artists' criminals... not to mention all the websites that have that anime content..

How are they going to expect to enforce something like this when a WHOLE country (i.e. Japan) fully embraces it?

russotto

join:2000-10-05
Collegeville, PA

reply to hopeflicker
Re: OHH my!

There are several laws making simulated child porn illegal. However, the Supreme Court has so far struck down those which have gotten to it. Congress will keep trying until they can put you in PMITA Federal Prison for a stick figure which is too short.


Dagda1175

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Re: Bad for Anime fans..

said by pokesph See Profile :

this will basically wipe out the anime sub-culture
Hm. Now i might support this!


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said by brianiscool See Profile :

Wow this won't pass!
Uhhh... not only will this pass, but it will most likely pass by a unanimous vote in both the House of Representatives and the Senate. The last thing that any elected official wants is to be labelled as being "soft" on child pornography.
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jarthur31

join:2006-04-14
Carlsbad, NM
reply to Icynav
That makes too much sense. Are you sure you're American?!

This is very much akin to Sony thinking that all consumers who buy their CD's are pirates! Don't throw a blanket over everyone; go after the bad guys you lazy bastards!!!

brianiscool

join:2000-08-16
Miami, FL
Lets see enable VPN in another country. My monitoring days are over : )


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Re: OHH my!

D@MN Karl Bode See Profile!
Now it's in my cache. I'm doomed.


T1 Rocky

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reply to openbox9
Re: thin line to tread

O yea, this is a great idea. And we should start holding the US highway transportation department responsible when drugs enter the country in vehicles. Everytime they find some mariguana in a hidden compartment in a car just grab a guy in an orange vest filling in a pot hole on the side of the street and drop him in the klink for 12 months. How can this plan fail?!?


Trinijoy
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yup

No one realizes this but a lot of patch downloaders for Games now run off of bit torrent, but no one seems to care about them.


Combat Chuck
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reply to pokesph
Re: Bad for Anime fans..

said by pokesph See Profile :

Not good.. this will basically wipe out the anime sub-culture and make all those 'artists' criminals... not to mention all the websites that have that anime content..
Lets clear something up here:

Anime is not the same as porn (child or otherwise). There is a subset of Anime that is porn, just as there is a subset of traditional film that is porn.
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CPanime

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naughty ....lol under this law u'd be fine or mahybe bbr for hosting the file


insomniac84

join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN
They are forcing ISP employees to view child porn?

That is screwed up. If I worked at an ISP I would not want to have to search cached images for child porn nor should an ISP be forced to store such images on their servers.


Jason Levine
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reply to Combat Chuck
Re: Bad for Anime fans..

Not only that, but I'm sure that the Anime porn subset can be further divided into Anime "adult porn" in which the characters are of legal age and Anime "child porn" in which they aren't. Just like traditional film porn can be divided into these categories. So it doesn't even mean the end of Anime porn.


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This is up on CNN.

»www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/02···dex.html

To me it sounds like they are doing something even with a ISP bill.

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