hayabusa3303
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clubs: | Fcc listening?
I dont think the Fcc cares one bit about anything but dont you cuss or show a nipple on tv they get on edge.
if there where more hams they might get heard.
just my.02 in this |
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jhh
join:2005-05-25
Fargo, ND
2 edits | shutting down bpl won't solve anything
There is so much interference in cities now that day time standard am reception is bad, night is almost impossible, and it has been 4 years since I last receive an english station on my shortwave. Simply, technology has moved on and Ham radio is dead, and I live in Fargo and Bismarck ND. Even fm is getting to the point in this area that I cannot even get my sirius fm transmitter to work properly. Almost every frequency either has a station or bleeds from another. |
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Ahrenl
join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA
 ·Verizon FIOS
| Touring the technology
The fact the FCC is actually PUSHING for deployment, effectively acting as a marketing arm for this technology should be enough to know they're not going to do anything. Doesn't the FCC have some other job they're supposed to be doing? I didn't think they were supposed to be out hocking products for private enterprise.
Maybe I can get them to go and sell my Pet Rock II. It's like the original rock, only we're going to give it the slang name iPR2, so it will be all internet age and shit.. If someone in a zip code owns one, the FCC will be allowed to count those consumers as served by broadband.. Then I'll send threatening letters to anyone with a stone wall demanding $1k or I'll sue for $150,000 X # of stones in wall. |
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hrobins
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Regina, SK
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Re: Fcc listening?
said by hayabusa3303  :I dont think the Fcc cares one bit about anything but dont you cuss or show a nipple on tv they get on edge. if there where more hams they might get heard. just my.02 in this There are a lot of Ham operators out there.
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
1 edit | FCC only cares about who's slush fund is paying them off.
HAM radio doesn't generate revenue for big corps. |
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morbo
Complete Your Transaction
join:2002-01-22
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1 edit | how about some fu cking accountability?
what is it about this administration and their half assed attempts at dealing with wars, natural disasters, homeland security, broadband, no child left behind, and almost every other program they've put forth? then as if their complete incompetence isn't enough, they have the guts to lie lie lie to cover it up, use incorrect data to come to assumptions, and pretty much anything else to make the square peg fit into that round hole.
i'm with the HAMS on this. enough with the b.s. and let's have some TRUTH AND ACCOUNTABILITY. |
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ke4pym
join:2004-07-24
Charlotte, NC
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Re: shutting down bpl won't solve anything
said by jhh :Simply, technology has moved on and Ham radio is dead... I've found that those who spout that Ham radio is dead are usually the least educated on the topic.
Perhaps you should go read up on how Hams are keeping pace with technology, and how they're exploiting that technology in disaster areas (Katrina mean anything?). |
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Tzale
Proud Libertarian Conservative
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join:2004-01-06
Sweden
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·Optimum Online
2 edits | reply to hayabusa3303
Re: Fcc listening?
said by hayabusa3303 :I dont think the Fcc cares one bit about anything but dont you cuss or show a nipple on tv they get on edge. if there where more hams they might get heard. just my.02 in this There are around ~800,000 hams in the United States. We are FCC licensed and we earned it. I spent dozens of hours studying the material reading books and learning electronic theory, and learning Morse code to get my license last year. There isn't a hobby like it, it isn't anything like CB radio... Ham Radio is the hobby of tech geeks! There isn't anything cooler than being able to chat with someone around the world, at random, never knowing who you will get using 100 watts or less and a simple antenna, though we are legally allowed to use up to 1.5 kilowatts and any type of antenna we see fit along with 200 foot towers, heh. I can chat with people in Alaska and the West coast using a handheld radio a little bigger than a cell phone, and a small handheld YAGI (beam/directional) antenna, at 1 watt into a low Earth orbiting satellite. Radio is a real thrill.
The FCC can go screw themselves if they think that the license I worked so hard to earn doesn't entitle me to freedom from noise on the bands. I spend close to around 100 hours per month relaying traffic so that if something like 9/11 ever happens again, we can help people communicate. Multiply that by a couple thousand NTS ops. (National Traffic System) and you have a great "off-the-grid" system that can replace telephone/mail/internet in times of emergency. The system consists of preset times/frequencies of "nets" or "networks of amateurs" who "check in" and relay messages between distant locations. There are local nets, sectional nets, regional nets, etc. You can move a message across the country in minutes if it is a priority message. Many don't realize how much we do for emergency preparedness. September 11th, Katrina and New Orleans, Forest Fires and even something as simple as a parade or other event usually has ham ops in the background running the show, such as the NYC Marathon.
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Thaler
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join:2004-02-02
Encino, CA
| reply to hayabusa3303
said by hayabusa3303 :I dont think the Fcc cares one bit about anything but dont you cuss or show a nipple on tv they get on edge. Just say that the BPL interference sounds like a porno playing over Ham frequencies. Problem solved.  |
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Mactron
el camino Real
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join:2001-12-16
CM94sv | I want speed
I want FIOS, not some slowa$$ BPL joke  |
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Tzale
Proud Libertarian Conservative
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Sweden
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| said by Mactron :I want FIOS, not some slowa$$ BPL joke Exactly.... It has been proven countless times that fiber is the future, not BPL... BPL is too expensive for rural applications and in urban/suburban environments, there is plenty of competition and BPL won't be able to keep up with cable/telco competition.
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wvcaver
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Tzale
Proud Libertarian Conservative
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Sweden
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| reply to jhh
Re: shutting down bpl won't solve anything
said by jhh :There is so much interference in cities now that day time standard am reception is bad, night is almost impossible, and it has been 4 years since I last receive an english station on my shortwave. Simply, technology has moved on and Ham radio is dead, and I live in Fargo and Bismarck ND. Even fm is getting to the point in this area that I cannot even get my sirius fm transmitter to work properly. Almost every frequency either has a station or bleeds from another. In North Dakota? You got to be kidding me... I bet it is probably a faulty streetlight or powerlines causing the problem.... I live in Northern NJ, less than 10 miles West of NYC in a region with 25,000,000 people... I don't have ANY problems with noise on the HF (shortwave) bands. I think you are having problems with something else, because what you describe isn't just because of crowded airwaves. And just for the record, only a minority of hams actually use AM on HF anymore. Most HF transmissions are SINGLE SIDEBAND (SSB) which can be either USB or LSB depending on frequency. FM is only used on the VHF/UHF bands, so stuff under ~100 miles and satellites only using FM. There are tons of HF modes like PSK31 (keyboard-to-keyboard), RTTY (original keyboard-to-keyboard), SSTV (slow scan TV), Packet Radio, IRLP, APRS (GPS linked with worldwide radio network (free text messaging)and of course CW (Morse Code). There are at least another 50 modes out there, so I'm not going to list them all. Ham Radio is by NO means just "AM Radio" like many think of it. 80% of hams probably never used AM in their ham career.
-Tzale
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Techman21
join:2005-04-14
Richmond, VA
| bah
Wow, didn't take long for the "administration" crap to crop up.
Through and through this is more show that our government as a whole is far past corrupt. I don't care if Jimmy Two fingers wants to carry on "trials." It doesn't prove anything other than there are 2 warring fractions in our government who are like kids in a playground fighting over candy. I say fire them all and elect new fresh people and if they start the same crap fire them as well.
Anyways, after that previous post about what HAMs do that is pretty amazing. I knew you could talk around the world, but never did I imagine they participate in regular yearly events. Pretty interesting. So anyone talked to someone in the past/future yet? I want to know the lotto numbers.
At any rate the FCC isn't going to listen to anyone seeing as they don't seem to enforce anything these days. And that boob thing was all due to the government intervention not the FCC, otherwise it would have gone by. BUT, because of public outcry, obviously no one in office wanted to sit by and not listen to the outcry and fork over the bodies to the people holding the torches and pitchforks. |
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gwion
wild colonial boy
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join:2000-12-28
Pittsburgh, PA
| 1967 technology...
... in a 2007 world. Just forty years off the mark. Yeah, it works. So does a washboard, a rock and a strem. This stuff is pre-historic, consigned to Fred and Barney for further development. We're in a fiber age, and a fiber world. Let's just start realizing that, and stop trying to resurrect forty year old tech, passed off as state of the art.
Stop wasting billions on interim technologies, and start spending the money on long term infrastructures that will support the next quarter century, and beyond.
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Heterman
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Fayetteville, AR | reply to Tzale
Re: shutting down bpl won't solve anything
»www.aprs.net/
You can zoom out and get an idea. |
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hayabusa3303
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join:2005-06-29
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| reply to Tzale
Re: Fcc listening?
said by Tzale :said by hayabusa3303 :I dont think the Fcc cares one bit about anything but dont you cuss or show a nipple on tv they get on edge. if there where more hams they might get heard. just my.02 in this The FCC can go screw themselves if they think that the license I worked so hard to earn doesn't entitle me to freedom from noise on the bands. -Tzale I agree i have some of the books i havnt had time to work on it yet. |
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hayabusa3303
Over 200 mph
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join:2005-06-29
clubs: | reply to Thaler
I wasnt thinking about that when i posted. That will give the BPL the edge now..lol |
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mr anon
@il.us
| Here is my take.
I'm not exactly for the HAM operators but I'm not for them getting stamped out either.
Here is the problem with HAM's argument. "If there were ever a problem" "This is what we are doing here" and it all seems hypothetical and... made up for the most part.
If they want people on their side they are going to have to get coverage. Not just special interest stores or quick mentions, we need stores like "Operator broadcasts emergency information for stricken city" or "first responders were operators" People getting medals and other recognition for this brave work they do in their spare time.
I'm not trying to discount it (right now) but people generally see HAM operators as those weird people that spend all their time in the basement playing with their expensive walkie-talkies. Combine that with hearing about phone companies and their mobile emergency communication vans and it goes a long way to discredit whatever the community has done.
They have a right to fight it, but they are going to need fresh comebacks and examples and a slew of excellent press if they are to get any help from any other source than their own supporters. |
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MZR
join:2006-08-12
TX | reply to hrobins
Re: Fcc listening?
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