  tiger72 SexaT duorP Premium join:2001-03-28 Saint Louis, MO clubs:
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| This is why
DRM will never succeed. I'm willing to pay for a high quality, commercial free tv show. Unfortunately, no one offers such a thing. -- |- The LP »www.lp.org/issues/issues.shtml -| |- Cato @ Liberty »www.cato-at-liberty.org -| |
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 openbox9
join:2004-01-26 Alexandria, VA
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| This isn't really about the DRM, it's about the quality of the video. It is possible to have high-quality, HD content, while using DRM. Unfortunately, it seems that the online purveyors of content, don't want high quality HD content available on the Internet because it's a paradoxical change that their marketing/manufacturing machines aren't ready for. |
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  xerxes3642
join:2006-02-24 Saint Charles, MO | I think Itunes
only gives you downloads at 128k, and in mp3 format which isn't cd quality. If they wanted to give out 256k in Wave format, now you're talking quality songs worth $1. |
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  dr3yec
join:2002-12-19 00000
·CableOne
| Another strike!
Yup another strike against drm riddled media. When will they ever learn. ISP's better get on the ball about bandwidth. There networks will come to a crawl if they dont expand soon. I see more and more hd content for download. The pirates are winning. The video revolution is here. |
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join:2005-09-16 Camarillo, CA
| just my .02 cents
I remember when pirated tvshows were VERY poor in quality. Captured from video tape with a 50 dollar tv tuner card or something. They have come a long way in finding top sources to perfecting file sizes and encoding options. Itunes should definetly continue to improve and should be able to do so much faster than it took for pirated versions. |
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  m critz
@turbinegames.com
from: TKJunkMail 
| iTunes is better because...
There are several advantages of actually buying a show versus pirating:
1) No commercials. 2) None of that overlay junk the TV networks put in the corners of the screens. 3) No malware, viruses, or adware. Malware in piracy is "rare but there". And you only need one devastating attack. 4) Consistent quality. Pirated shows vary greatly in quality from the HD represented in this post and unwatchable garbage. 5) Consistent speed. Say what you want about iTunes, it's consistently fast. 6) Ease-of-use. iTunes shows are neatly organized and readily searchable. 7) iTunes shows are guarenteed to play on the #1 portable video player in the known universe: iPod.
I'm not saying that a select set of pathetic nerds won't pay $2 for the same show they'll eventually convert to iPod format anyway.
I actually appreciate these lovable geeks. They provide an incentive for TV executives to sell their shows through iTunes. |
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  m critz
@turbinegames.com | reply to xerxes3642 Re: I think Itunes
Uh...
iTunes audio is an encrypted format of AAC audio, not MP3.
It's the very same version and bitrate of AAC that you'll find on a DVD, just a two-channel stereo variant. |
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  xerxes3642
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| reply to m critz Re: iTunes is better because...
7) Itunes music will ONLY play in Ipods,(ok you can do some noodling and fit it on something else later, after burining the songs onto a cd, then ripping the cd back into itunes and converting the songs to another format then saving them somewhere other than itunes...easy) |
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  m critz
@turbinegames.com | > 7) Itunes music will ONLY play in Ipods
And? What you don't have one? |
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  dr3yec
join:2002-12-19 00000
·CableOne
| reply to m critz You need to wake up and smell the coffee. The pirated shows are perfect. I never watch commercials. LOL. You sir know nothing of pirated material. I can get any tv show in a nice 720p. I also can get all the hddvds in 1080p. Without any problems. Then i can take that video and make any compressing i need. Can you do this from itunes video? I think not. Maleware in a video? Never heard of such of thing. I like to know where you get your pirated video. I want to stay clear from there. |
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  Dezbend Premium,MVM join:2001-04-20 | reply to m critz Shouldn't the #1 reason be: no jail time
...or at least no threat of a MPAA lawsuit... -- If it is not recorded, it simply does not exist. |
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  dr3yec
join:2002-12-19 00000 | Another joke! LOL |
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  dr3yec
join:2002-12-19 00000 | By the way I have a ipod. Also love all my mp3's on it. Gota love the mp3's!  |
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  m critz
@turbinegames.com
| reply to dr3yec said by dr3yec :The pirated shows are perfect. Uh... yeah... You won me over. Pirated videos are awesome. Pirated videos live in a land of unicorns and rainbows! |
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  Dezbend Premium,MVM join:2001-04-20 | reply to dr3yec I am always forgetting to add the to my posts. It was in fact a tongue-in-cheek statement. -- If it is not recorded, it simply does not exist. |
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  porkchops ...meh Premium join:2003-05-17 Saint Marys, WV | reply to m critz I think it's funny piracy offers higher quality music than Apple's 128k AACs. |
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 kaila
join:2000-10-11 Lincolnshire, IL clubs:  | A plausable alternative for some (free vs broken), but......
things will get very, very interesting when (if) the MPAA goes nuclear and starts demanding HDCP enforcement and hardware/software key revocations, etc, leaving crippled content, disabled players, and their own low-bitrate DRM'd content. |
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 m critz
join:2007-02-20 Brookline, MA
| reply to jeffs471 Re: just my .02 cents
I couldn't agree more. I think Apple needs to keep up with technology. HDTV is the future.
Apple TV (the hardware product that connects to your HDTV) is an example of technology that would be so much better if Apple's iTunes video were HDTV sized. |
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  raw War Eagle Premium join:2001-01-17 Madison, AL clubs:
| reply to m critz Re: I think Itunes
Not quite.
DVDs use either Dolby Digital or DTS (and even if they use DTS, they're required to have a DD track to satisfy DVD logo requirements). Dolby Digital uses the AC-3 codec (at a maximum of 448 kbps, although the original Xbox and PS3 can output at 640 kbps), which is nowhere near the same thing as Advanced Audio Coding (AAC), which is supported by a bunch of media players, including iTunes and the PS3. To make things slightly confusing, Dolby Labs was part of the group that developed the AAC standard. -- [BBR]raw America's Army BBR Enemy Territory clan founder |
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  tiger72 SexaT duorP Premium join:2001-03-28 Saint Louis, MO clubs:
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| reply to openbox9 Re: This is why
said by openbox9 :This isn't really about the DRM, it's about the quality of the video. It is possible to have high-quality, HD content, while using DRM. Unfortunately, it seems that the online purveyors of content, don't want high quality HD content available on the Internet because it's a paradoxical change that their marketing/manufacturing machines aren't ready for. I think DRM and poor quality go hand in hand in most circumstances. It's obvious that the content producers and distributors don't value quality, as almost all DRM content sacrifices quality for no apparent reason. The only high quality DRM content (which people pay for!) is on porn sites. For everything else, DRM is analogous with poor quality crap. -- |- The LP »www.lp.org/issues/issues.shtml -| |- Cato @ Liberty »www.cato-at-liberty.org -| |
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