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Comments on news posted 2007-02-21 18:21:59: The RIAA has renewed their focus on targeting college kids at University who download pirated music via broadband, according to the Associated Press. ..

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DreamWraith
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w00t?

I would take suspension over a frivolous lawsuit any day
krayzie bone
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lol

lol reminds me of that time when the RIAA tried to sue that MIT student and when he said that he couldn't afford the fine, the RIAA suggested to him that he drop out of school...What exactly do they hope to do by pursuing broke college kids?

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Re: w00t?

"second time offenders are forced to watch an eight-minute anti-piracy DVD produced by the RIAA"

Ouch! That should be for 3rd time offenders. Lol I can see it now...Stop downloading or I will make you watch a boring video full of Bull Shit!!!

Chiyo
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oh yeah "Maybe you should consider going to a community college or drop out" classic as if the RIAA wasn't rich enough way to corrupt todays youth.

r81984
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Is this even true?

So the RIAA has 15,000 complaints, but there is no way to believe them. It seems more obvious that they just randomly generate IP addresses and say they stole music.
I see them doing this to show their shareholders an excuse to why their sales are down.

RIAA has given us more reasons to not trust them then to trust them in cases of filesharing.

boowhoox2
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firing blanks

targeting college peeps will just make kids trade with each other rather than the outside if they r smart

kyramilan
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Hate to say it but kids need to abide laws. Or, use an encrypted Newsgroup (like smart people do).

Matt3
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said by kyramilan:

Hate to say it but kids need to abide laws. Or, use an encrypted Newsgroup (like smart people do).
And what is to stop the RIAA from hiring a kid at $20/hr to monitor the encrypted newsgroups? Encrypting your NNTP connection does no good unless the news host doesn't retain the X-Posted-From IP. If you can do it, so can the RIAA.

Even then, encrypting the NNTP session is completely pointless and just wastes bandwidth. It's not like your ISP has an RIAA installed packet capture server that monitors all traffic and uses behavior analysis and packet combining to determine that you are transmitting copyrighted material.

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Purdue could be looking at a BIG RIAA lawsuit

»news.yahoo.com/s/ap/2007 ··· ng_music
Under federal law, universities that receive complaints about students illegally distributing copyrighted songs generally must act to stop repeat offenders or else the schools can be sued.

Purdue, which has received 1,068 complaints so far this year but only 37 in 2006, said it rarely even notifies students accused by the RIAA because it's too much trouble to track down alleged offenders. Purdue said its students aren't repeat offenders.

"In a sense, the (complaint) letter is asking us to pursue an investigation and as the service provider we don't see that as our role," spokesman Steve Tally said. "We are a leading technology school with thousands and thousands of curious and talented technology students."
Look out Purdue. This AP news story just put a big RIAA target on your chest.

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Clockwork Orange

"second time offenders are forced to watch an eight-minute anti-piracy DVD produced by the RIAA"

So do they tie you down and taped your eyes open and feed you junk music and tell you not to file sharing.

Nerdtalker
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Re: w00t?

said by DreamWraith:

I would take suspension over a frivolous lawsuit any day
As would I.

However, it'd be better if you just didn't have to do anything at all, period.

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Hmm, Wonder if for a 4th offense they could have you shave the head (whilst listening to ramblings) of a washed up pop star?

There could be "tieing down" involved in some fashion.
hottboiinnc4
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Ruckus.com & Napster

This is why many schools are giving away free or discounted music from; Ruckus.com or Napster.

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dc++ is phenomenally popular in the dorms at Purdue. It's on par with having an Ipod. You can find ANYTHING even the indie/not yet popular stuff. It's like free usenet only downloads @ >2Mb/s are considered slow.

AND
+Lan traffic does not count against your 5 gig allowance.
+It's private from the outside. So as long as illegal porn doesn't make it in, there are no worries.

I wish I had a lan like that..... Well actually no. I'd be addicted and not have time to enjoy all that I could find.

swintec
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Anyone...

Anyone have an NZB file or a good torrent tracker where I can find this Anti-Piracy video?

kyramilan
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Re: w00t?

said by Matt3:

said by kyramilan:

Hate to say it but kids need to abide laws. Or, use an encrypted Newsgroup (like smart people do).
And what is to stop the RIAA from hiring a kid at $20/hr to monitor the encrypted newsgroups? Encrypting your NNTP connection does no good unless the news host doesn't retain the X-Posted-From IP. If you can do it, so can the RIAA.

Even then, encrypting the NNTP session is completely pointless and just wastes bandwidth. It's not like your ISP has an RIAA installed packet capture server that monitors all traffic and uses behavior analysis and packet combining to determine that you are transmitting copyrighted material.
I guess it is simple: DON'T Violate the Law!

itsthelawfool
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Sooner or later your number will come up...

... and then your azz will be on the line. Piracy is a crime as all courts have ruled so get a life.

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Re: Purdue could be looking at a BIG RIAA lawsuit

Purdue's lan uses a very simple DHCP based system. Other campuses like IUPUI require installing software that mandates tracking and antivrus software so that they can be network nazis.

Anywhere on campus, rebooting your computer gets you a new IP most times and unsecured wireless points are standard issue.

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Re: Clockwork Orange


Produce by the RIAA
Heres the 8 minutes of your life

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Umm, as Purdue SAID, they DON'T keep track of who has what IP address at what time. How exactly are they supposed to 'warn' a student if they don't know which student it is?

Purdue has NOTHING to worry about. They have a SMART policy of NOT logging IP addresses to names, so everyone is effectively anonymous.

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Re: Sooner or later your number will come up...

said by itsthelawfool :

... and then your azz will be on the line. Piracy is a crime as all courts have ruled so get a life.
Spoken like Ali G himself.

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Re: Purdue could be looking at a BIG RIAA lawsuit

said by FFH5:

»news.yahoo.com/s/ap/2007 ··· ng_music
Under federal law, universities that receive complaints about students illegally distributing copyrighted songs generally must act to stop repeat offenders or else the schools can be sued.

Purdue, which has received 1,068 complaints so far this year but only 37 in 2006, said it rarely even notifies students accused by the RIAA because it's too much trouble to track down alleged offenders. Purdue said its students aren't repeat offenders.

"In a sense, the (complaint) letter is asking us to pursue an investigation and as the service provider we don't see that as our role," spokesman Steve Tally said. "We are a leading technology school with thousands and thousands of curious and talented technology students."
Look out Purdue. This AP news story just put a big RIAA target on your chest.
What kind of nonsense analogies and bent truths of 'morally upright' fervor will we read today from our favorite corporate shill, the world will never know!
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or else the schools can be sued
I can see the headlines. "RIAA shifts crosshairs from ghetto families to education facilities"

The RIAA is a leech - off its artists, off consumers, off of technology in general since their ideal world is one where technology is only for them, and not for us. They need to learn their role, or shrivel up and die.

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said by P2PPirate2:

Heres the 8 minutes of your life
Perhaps, you could be more dramatic. Why can't the cheapskate college punks BUY the music rather than stealing it? Of course, that involves MORALS, which are rare on BBR.com.

Example: Today, BBR had no problem bashing Comcast because of a rate hike BUT FAILS to note THE "Almighty" FIOS rate hike was TWICE THAT OF COMCAST (4% for Comcast and 7.6% for FIOS)!

Tomek
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Comparing apples to oranges?
FIOS is twice the speed and LOWER price.
Back to RIAA,
some people have high morals and strongly believe in Fair use and most of all fair pricing. "Buying" music violates those morals.

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Your IP address is really not that important. Your MAC address
is! I will say no more.

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You see, at my time at college we are in a group who would vote like this. $20 bucks to buy the CD or $20 bucks to buy the beers. Now you do knows which one always win, right?
Thats the moral

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Re: Purdue could be looking at a BIG RIAA lawsuit

said by karlmarx:

Umm, as Purdue SAID, they DON'T keep track of who has what IP address at what time. How exactly are they supposed to 'warn' a student if they don't know which student it is?

Purdue has NOTHING to worry about. They have a SMART policy of NOT logging IP addresses to names, so everyone is effectively anonymous.
Willful ignorance is never a defense under the law:
Under federal law, universities that receive complaints about students illegally distributing copyrighted songs generally must act to stop repeat offenders or else the schools can be sued.

Paulg
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Re: Ruckus.com & Napster

It's really too bad that Ruckus is absolute garbage, It's a useless ad-driven pile of crap with little music selection.

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said by Matt3:

And what is to stop the RIAA from hiring a kid at $20/hr to monitor the encrypted newsgroups?
When the RIAA hires said kid @ $ 20.00 per hour, then kid uses the RIAA's extortion tactics, to sell IP addresses back to RIAA at $150,000 and up per IP.
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its ad-drive due to its free for the schools. And they contact each record label and the artists directly to offer the music. But you also have to take in account they're not very old--maybe going on a year old.
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