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Comments on news posted 2007-02-21 15:43:03: An Illinois homeowners advocacy group named the Healthy Home Alliance has long fought cell tower construction. ..

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SYNACK
Just Firewall It
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Venice, CA

Their "expert" seems to be Henry Lai


Henry Lai
Apparently the guy who compiled their research reference collection is Henry Lai from the U of Washington.

One would have to read his papers to really understand what he is actually doing, but he seem to study two main things:

•Study the health effects of non-ionizing radiation.
•Study the use of low frequency EM fields to cure cancer and malaria.

I thought it was funny

RayW
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Layton, UT
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Re: Their "expert" seems to be Henry Lai

said by SYNACK:

•Study the health effects of non-ionizing radiation.
•Study the use of low frequency EM fields to cure cancer and malaria.

I thought it was funny
Sure, it will/should kill the micro-organism that causes malaria and the overly active cells that are cancer. That has been around for a while, glad someone is trying to make it useful.

Did not read the link, what does he consider LF, 100 KHz? a few GHz?
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SYNACK
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Re: Their "expert" seems to be Henry Lai

said by RayW:

Did not read the link, what does he consider LF, 100 KHz? a few GHz?
Nahh, I did not bother reading either.

Given that his PhD is in psychology(!), it seems he's stepping outside the boundaries of his expertise anyway.

RayW
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Re: Their "expert" seems to be Henry Lai

Took a quick look at his 'Bio'. He does not answer the question, just refers to ELF to RF electromagnetic fields? So where does RF start at Mr. Lai?

Questionable.
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tbaker397

join:2004-07-19
Berlin, PA

Now I need a Faraday cage to prevent further harm...

So I guess I am chronically ill because I have a wireless network in my home and I also frequent places where there are Hot Spots and have worked in a building that is one giant radiation zone(Circuit City--wireless networks galore + a Verizon Wireless Kiosk)

AnonProxy
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The angel website is priceless!

If you could have infinite wisdom at your fingertips…What would you ask The Angel Lady?

»www.theangellady.net/

ss4vegito7

join:2004-07-24
Cranbury, NJ

called her

I called her....

Me: Hi I found you through a Google search and was wondering what your whole alliance thing was about?

Sue: Oh well we are trying to prevent unnecessary electromagnetic waves, such as wifi. They wanted to build a cell phone tower near my house and i fought it. (sucks for her neighbors I guess.) Umm.. yeah this is what we do.

Me: Oh ok just wondering, thanks.

She was very polite but... she needs another hobby. This one is just trying to backtrack human progress....
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orlyok

@pacbell.net

if they were amish

I would understand...

cdru
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Fort Wayne, IN
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I tried contacting her...

I tried calling Sue Storm. Said said that she would have to call be back because her 2.4GHz cordless phone was acting up.
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ajouvenat

join:2004-05-06
San Dimas, CA

re

Sounds like someone had to many microwaves dropped on their head.
rmdir

join:2003-03-13
Chicago, IL

who??

"To me, radiation is radiation," says the group's leader, SBC Ameritech.
dbb

join:2002-11-26
Bronx, NY

1 recommendation

Where's Reed?


For shame Sue, for shame.
I can't believe that the wife of the brilliant Reed Richards would make such outlandish claims. Especially since she herself relies heavily on electromagnetic radiation.

Warzau
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Naperville, IL
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Sue Storm doesn't like radiation?

I thought Sue Storm would be grateful for radiation. I mean that's how she got her powers.
dbb

join:2002-11-26
Bronx, NY

Re: Sue Storm doesn't like radiation?

37 seconds late.

Warzau
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Naperville, IL
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Re: Sue Storm doesn't like radiation?

darn
Noda

join:2007-02-20
Pikeville, KY

Radiation Everywhere

I'm surprised noone's noted that the human body itself emits plenty of infrared radiation.

Rant of an idiot

@pacbell.net

Very sad

“These Wi-Fi transmitters function at 2.45 GHz, which is like being surrounded by a microwave oven without walls or doors.”

Run for the hills routers are much much more powerful


60dBm
1 kW = 1000 W
Typical RF power inside a microwave oven

70 dBm
100 pW = .000000000000001 W
Average range (60 to 80 dBm) of Wireless signal over a network

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DBm
Idiot Rant

join:2007-02-21
Elk Grove Village, IL

Re: Very sad

Opps too many zeros

100 pW = .00000000001 W

PhoenixAZ
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Phoenix, AZ
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Just sent them an email

I had just sent them some email telling them that htey might as well stop using their cell phones, or stop going outside as the sunlight causes radiation. I wonder how the response might be.
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dentman42
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Columbus, OH

Re: Just sent them an email

We need to go after them at their next meeting armed with cantennas!

nixen
Rockin' the Boxen
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Alexandria, VA

You Can Almost Be Sure

That a not insignificant percentage of these gits have cordless phones in their houses.

What I like is the argument that essentially says, "other loonies using unsubstantiated data have tried to get wifi banned, too" as "evidence" to support their view.

-tom
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"Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the government's purposes are beneficial. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well meaning but without understanding." -Louis D Brandeis
Jobiwon

join:2006-06-11
Jackson, NJ

Sue Storm

Am i the only one who finds it ironic that the leader of this group shares a name with the invisible woman, who gained her powers through radiation from cosmic rays?
Jobiwon

join:2006-06-11
Jackson, NJ

Re: Sue Storm

oops, should have read the second page, apparently, i'm not the only one to catch the irony

2kmaro
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ColossalCave
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Radiation ain't Radiation...

"To me, radiation is radiation," says the group's leader, Sue Storm.

No radiation is alpha particles that are stopped by a sheet of paper, and other radiation is stuff like Gamma and X-rays - the really energetic stuff that causes mutants like her to be born. Her mom was probably in the early 50's nuke tests in Nevada?
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@comcast.net

lol

Non-ignoramus: Hey Miss Storm
Sue: Yes?
Non-ignoramus: You say that "..radiation is radiation" right?
Sue: Yes, thats right
Non-ignoramus: Ever heard of heat?
Sue: Come again?
Non-ignoramus: You know, heat
Sue: What about it?
Non-ignoramus: ...its infrared....radiation!
Sue: But...but...
Non-ignoramus: Your BODY HEAT is radiation!!!
Sue: *comences gibbering apoplexy*

K...someone do this, film it, and slap it up on youtube for vast amounts of entertainment.
Bwahahaha

envoid

join:2002-12-21
Duluth, GA

Radiation, huh?

Well, I hope she doesn't have anything electrical in her home or around her and lives in a lead-lined cave 1000ft below the surface of the planet. Since she probably doesn't, that magnetic radiation from her corded phones, TVs, computers, and even toasters might be the reason for her wackiness!

rahlquist
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Villa Rica, GA
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uhhhh

Quick! Everyone fire up your Pringles cantenna and point it at the Healthy Home Alliance! If we act fast enough we can have hot buttered idjit by dinner time!
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Timmn

join:2000-04-23
Tinley Park, IL

These people should do something useful....

Like getting all the diaries to standardize the cap colors used on their milk bottles.