tbaker397
join:2004-07-19
Berlin, PA | Ahh...
The growing pains of a small time provider. I hope that they can make it through this without going under. It will give hope to other small time providers giving service that they can compete against Verizon and AT&T |
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
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|  Look out taxpayers
If the iProvo system stays in the red, which appears increasingly likely, the taxpayers will take it in the neck to cover the city backed bond defaults. Or the system will be sold off at a discount to a large company with rate increases to follow shortly thereafter. Either way, the costs for the service will ultimately reflect the reality and costs of providing high speed service.
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Michieru2
zzz zzz zzz
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join:2005-01-28
Miami, FL | Sometimes it takes a example in order to bring out a reality.
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
·Comcast
| said by Michieru2  :Sometimes it takes a example in order to bring out a reality. Yea but its so much easier to waste $40 million when you can just simply screw taxpayers out of the money.
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decadent
Premium
join:2002-04-02
Piscataway, NJ | Missing something
Is it normal for a fiber to behave this way during very cold weather? In the end, it is a glass and it is easy to break. What is MTTF for above ground installation of fiber? |
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edsgh
@optonline.net | I think the cold weather and the fiber repairs are two different problems. Those optical cables have been coated to ensure it's durability of the elements for 25+ years. |
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ninjatutle
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join:2006-01-02
San Ramon, CA | Amatures
This is what happens when you let a bunch of amatures provide the infrastructure.
Leave it to the pros whether it be ATT, Verizon or Sprint. |
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tbaker397
join:2004-07-19
Berlin, PA | If that happens, it would be 10 years before any of the residents of the network saw the speeds already offered. |
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Michieru2
zzz zzz zzz
Premium
join:2005-01-28
Miami, FL
| reply to pnh102
Re: Look out taxpayers
Which is why when you create a project that will require a lot of money it is best to continue seeking for the best possible price even if you have a boatload of money behind to back it up.
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
·Comcast
| reply to tbaker397
Re: Amatures
said by tbaker397 :If that happens, it would be 10 years before any of the residents of the network saw the speeds already offered. I find that hard to believe. According to Wikipedia, Provo has about 113k people in the city proper and about 412k people in its metropolitan area. This place doesn't exactly seem like a small town out in the middle of nowhere.
Surely one can get broadband from a private operator in Provo.
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RadioDoc
58ef2c0
Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11
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If they keep having fiber failures, it'll be 10 years until the system is stable...
Sounds like a 'lowest bidder' situation to me. Hopefully they'll have some kind of recourse, unless, of course, they let the municipal sewer and water department install this in the first place instead of hiring professionals.
And ninjaturtle1 , it's "amateurs".
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
·Comcast
| reply to Michieru2
Re: Look out taxpayers
said by Michieru2 :Which is why when you create a project that will require a lot of money it is best to continue seeking for the best possible price even if you have a boatload of money behind to back it up. I would think that "knowing what you're doing" is the first order of business.
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Eric Martin
join:2005-06-19
66308 | Word for the wise. Astroturfing.
Don't believe a thing that the users post on this website.
Half of them work for or own stock from the telecom industry. |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
·Comcast
| said by Eric Martin :Half of them work for or own stock from the telecom industry. I always kick myself for not being paid to shill.
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ninjatutle
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join:2006-01-02
San Ramon, CA | reply to RadioDoc
Re: Amatures
Where I'm from, its correct. Just like colours, centres, memorise, etc. |
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utahluge
join:2004-10-14
Draper, UT
·Comcast
| reply to pnh102
I am on iProvo and just this last week got GREAT speeds compared to before. I was breaking my 10Mb outside the iProvo network. Heck, just last week I was getting 2.5MB (YES, MB as in MegaBYTE) between a friend of mine and my house (both on iProvo). I just want to test with something like iperf so there is no HD/etc. bottleneck. I have seen a little slowing yesterday and today but thats no big deal as I now know its for repairs.
I am liking iProvo and STAYING with it. |
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dynodb
Premium,VIP
join:2004-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
| reply to Eric Martin
Re: Word for the wise. Astroturfing.
ROFLMAO... yeah, that explains the daily articles and near constant bashing of the telcom industry on this site 
One need not be a telcom shill to note that the iProvo project isn't going nearly as well as hoped or expected given that Provo city officials are basically saying the same thing. |
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tbaker397
join:2004-07-19
Berlin, PA
| reply to pnh102
Re: Amatures
Very true, private operator though. The person above me said why not let AT&T and Verizon do it. My point was that if either of these two built in the infrastructure, that it would be 10 years before the people of Provo would see the speeds they see now. |
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RadioDoc
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join:2000-05-11 | reply to ninjatutle
You're from a non-English speaking land then?
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ninjatutle
Premium
join:2006-01-02
San Ramon, CA
1 edit | You are correct sir/ma'am. We speak a mixture of español, português and engrish. |
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