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Comments on news posted 2007-02-28 11:14:20: Hams continue to insist that broadband over powerline (BPL) deployments in Manassas, Virginia, are causing local interference. ..

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AnonProxy
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Ham is up!

These nerds are going rule the world!

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said by AnonProxy See Profile :

These nerds are going rule the world!
No, Hams do not want to rule the world, too many noses to wipe.
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moonpuppy

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Why hide the evidence?

Maybe your study is as flawed as your broadband penetration figures.

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Good luck

Even though there are some legislature members who are Hams, there are too many that are only in it for the money. It would be interesting to see how the FCC did their testing.

FCC: ComTek, we will be doing measurements of the supposed interference you are causing, what would be a good time?

ComTek: Would Tuesday between 0700 and 0900 work for you?

Too bad some of the higher up proponents of this technology do not have an introductory level course in electromagnetic theory. Even an introductory level electronics technician course as taught by the military would help give them a clue.
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Hands off

If Kevin Martin wants to take a governmental "hands-off" approach, why is he going around promoting anything? Isn't that very much a "hands-on" approach.


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Re: Good luck

I'm sure we'll see the data as soon as they finish making it up. After all, in the rush to give the installation a clean bill of health, I am sure they forgot create a detailed paper trail they could later use to justify their findings.
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If Ken Martin wants to take a governmental "hands-off" approach
Is he any relation to Kevin Martin, the FCC Commissioner ?
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Ignore the "edit: Wednesday February 28th, @12:02PM"


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When u get into a car accident who u think calls the for help that trackter trailer passing by they should not be left out.


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Re: Why hide the evidence? nope

“In 2005, worldwide unit shipments of broadband powerline equipment surpassed 2 million, and the market has reached an inflection point this year that points only upward. Worldwide annual shipments for broadband powerline equipment will exceed 200% growth in 2006.” ~ In-Stat, Aug2006

Broadband over Power Lines, also known as the "third wire" for delivering broadband communications to users, has been gaining traction on a global basis. BPL has been hampered by concerns over interference and the lack of standards necessary to drive it forward. However, recent movements by various global standards bodies promises to boost the market and questions of BPL-caused RF interference are being resolved satisfactorily. Since, more than 100 trials in 40 different countries worldwide have confirmed the viability of BPL technology that’s building momentum.

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Back to the anonymous posting?



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said by moonpuppy See Profile :

Back to the anonymous posting?


Looks like his exclamation mark key broke


rf_engineer

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Re: Good luck

Here's one of the sheets from the last FOIA request that the FCC redacted...


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No, Hams do not want to rule the world, too many noses to wipe.

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When u get into a car accident who u think calls the for help that trackter trailer passing by they should not be left out.
If I can translate correctly into English "When you get into an accident, who do you think calls for help when the tractor trailer passes by without helping?" (Reminds me of the spam I get from all the non-english speaking countries.)

Um...someone on a cell phone? Or a VHF/UHF ham radio if not on a main route? BPL (consumer style) most likely has very little to do with the supposed scenario you are talking about since consumer BPL affects the long haul radio frequencies and this is a bit higher up in the spectrum.
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Re: Why hide the evidence? nope

You forgot to specify that much of that equipment is probably for the low bandwidth and non-interfering control systems that have been in use for years, not the polluting consumer grade BPL.
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These nerds are going rule the world!
Umm, pardon me for pointing out something, but the nerds are the computer/internet users. The radio guys aren't really nerds. Either way, I hope they get their info, and prove the FCC is a bunch of idiots with thumbs up their asses..
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said by brooklynman4 See Profile :

When u get into a car accident who u think calls the for help that trackter trailer passing by they should not be left out.
If I can translate correctly into English "When you get into an accident, who do you think calls for help when the tractor trailer passes by without helping?" (Reminds me of the spam I get from all the non-english speaking countries.)

Um...someone on a cell phone? Or a VHF/UHF ham radio if not on a main route? BPL (consumer style) most likely has very little to do with the supposed scenario you are talking about since consumer BPL affects the long haul radio frequencies and this is a bit higher up in the spectrum.
true, I am an Amateur Radio operator and HF is 1-30MHZ... That is where BPL is mainly causing problems, and hams don't just use that spectrum, the majority of it is used by the government and companies...

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Re: Ham is up!

Radio guys aren't nerds? We write software, argue about what semiconductor devices are best, love the smell of solder and warm vacuum tubes, track satellites, and put big pieces of aluminum and steel that rotate in the air. I think that qualifies us as nerds

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Tzale, it will be interesting to see what happens with the influx of new HF privilege Hams in regards to the complaints on BPL. I know that at the one session I was at on the 23rd they had 26 people testing for G and E, and that session was advertised mainly by word of mouth. My club's test session on the 7th already has over 30 people stating an interest and they are expecting at least that many more as walk-ins. Makes me wonder, the FCC loosens up the entry requirements for users of HF, yet on the other hand is actively promoting consumer BPL technology that ruins the frequencies of interest.
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