kyramilan
join:2006-11-26
Pensacola, FL | Oh, Brother
Maybe an explosion is needed to kill off this pipe dream! |
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explosion
@cox.net | Ready To Explode
Yeah, it'll explode all right. Right off the face of the earth. =) |
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battleop
join:2005-09-28
00000 | reply to kyramilan
Re: Oh, Brother
Heh I wouldn't call 2.5M by 2011 an explosion. |
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FiL
Premium
join:2005-08-16
Silver Spring, MD | Ham Radio
guys must being going nuts over this.  |
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MysticGogeta
The Robot Devil
Premium
join:2005-03-14
League City, TX
clubs: |  Sigh is right
I lost count how many years have people speculated an explosion now?
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brianiscool
join:2000-08-16
Miami, FL | The only explosion they are going to see..
Is a power surge lol |
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cableties
Premium
join:2005-01-27
 ·Verizon FIOS
| esplode!
-Maine and Canada loss power to millions when hit by Noreaster a few years back. Powerlines forzen and towers collapsed.
-Midwest hit by icestorms. Power to tens of thousands out for several days.
-California still to implement rolling blackouts (though not on the scale Enron did).
-Summer months in the states use most electricity and most demand on grid. Resistance increases and signal strength drops.
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Power is unclean and unreliable. BPL is more ambitious for developing countries that have newer systems going inplace. Even then, they opt more for wireless than using electric utility.
Another point: since a utility company is reselling communications, how does this play with the Public Utilities Commission? |
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brooklynman4
join:2004-09-07
Brooklyn, NY | Yeah ready to explode over powered power lines thats about it lol. |
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fonzbear2000
Premium
join:2005-08-09
Saint Paul, MN
| you would be happy about this.....
and wouldn't be critisizing it if you lived in an area where nothing else was available
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Siryak
join:2005-11-26
 ·WildBlue
| said by fonzbear2000  :and wouldn't be critisizing it if you lived in an area where nothing else was available What he said. ^^^^ Plus who would not want a symmetrical connection?
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Dagda1175
join:2001-06-17
Goleta, CA | Shut up, hams!
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rf_engineer
join:2003-08-04
USA
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Re: you would be happy about this.....
said by fonzbear2000 :and wouldn't be critisizing it if you lived in an area where nothing else was available I wouldn't be holding out hope for BPL. All of the trials except perhaps one or two have been in suburban areas with other access available. BPL has distance limitations that are worse than DSL. The economics for pulling BPL into areas that haven't been wired with cable and DSL aren't good. |
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rf_engineer
join:2003-08-04
USA | reply to FiL
Re: Ham Radio
Not really. There's been talk about BPL subscriber explosions for the last four or five years. I think the last FCC report said there's about 8K subscribers. |
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n2jtx
join:2001-01-13
Glen Head, NY
 ·Optimum Online
| reply to fonzbear2000
Re: you would be happy about this.....
said by fonzbear2000 :and wouldn't be critisizing it if you lived in an area where nothing else was available Well if you are in area that is not being served by any broadband, I wouldn't count on BPL either. There would be no economic incentive for it either.
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jdracer47
join:2005-10-16
Auburn, PA | Again
The only explosion will be the one from Hams detonating the ISPs
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ctceo
Premium
join:2001-04-26
South Bend, IN
clubs:
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·AT&T U-Verse
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 ·AT&T Midwest
·HughesNet Satellit..
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Re: you would be happy about this.....
The economics are only good if the customer base is informed properly. Of course nothing sells if it isn't properly advertised.
In places where BPL could be deployed that Cable and/or DSL haven't been installed, properly advertised, would be a very lucrative decision. This would also force Cable and DSL companies in the area to expand their coverage in the name of competitiveness. |
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olegy
join:2003-06-02
San Diego, CA | reply to jdracer47
Re: Again
Don't you want 3Mbps symmetrical?
I'd give up my higher download in favor of 3Mpbs upload. |
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WhyZeeGuy
Premium
join:2004-06-06
Addison, TX | Job Interview
Wow, I was interviewed today by a company who wants me to sell BPL.
Maybe I should pass? |
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rob2006
join:2006-11-07
Austell, GA | they should offer over 100 mbps over that and multi gbit links |
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rf_engineer
join:2003-08-04
USA
| reply to ctceo
Re: you would be happy about this.....
said by ctceo :The economics are only good if the customer base is informed properly. Of course nothing sells if it isn't properly advertised In places where BPL could be deployed that Cable and/or DSL haven't been installed, properly advertised, would be a very lucrative decision. This would also force Cable and DSL companies in the area to expand their coverage in the name of competitiveness. Customer penetration isn't the issue. If there was money to be had in these areas, cable and DSL would be there already. This is especially true for cable as they can also sell TV service and they have much higher penetration rates with TV service than broadband. Telcos already have copper pairs to every home in these areas. Broadband companies aren't stupid; they have whole departments that look at business development and would be in these areas in a heartbeat if it was profitable.
Think about this logically for a second. Why would cable and DSL chase a competitor into an area just to expand their coverage area when it wasn't worth it to go into the area in the first place? It's even less enticing with a competitor in the area as the already meager customer base is divided and because of competition prices are driven down making it less economically viable than before.
BPL in rural areas is wishful thinking. BPL in rural areas encouraging competition is delusional thinking. |
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