vpoko
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The government needs to go after RIAA for racketeering, this is like the mob selling protection. |
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1 edit | said by vpoko  :The government needs to go after RIAA for racketeering, this is like the mob selling protection. No this is racketeering - "Pay now or we don't break your legs we won't sue you"
Someone needs to step on them. It's like if I own a small coffee shop in a strip mall, and Starbucks wants to move in, but Starbucks comes to you and says "Pay us $3500 bucks, and we won't put you out of business". Somehow this isn't legal, but yet the *IAA's get away with it.
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TKJunkMail
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Avalon, NJ |  He paid, so I guess he was guilty
Well this student knew a deal when he saw it. He was guilty so he settled. |
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salahx
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Re: He paid, so I guess he was guilty
People settle all the time and even confess to crimes they never committed, not because they are liable/guilty, but because its cheaper to give up or they can't afford to fight. |
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Re: Wow
said by djtim21 :...Somehow this isn't legal, but yet the *IAA's get away with it. ...and here I thought the downloading without royalty payment part was the illegal stuff....
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Re: He paid, so I guess he was guilty
said by salahx :People settle all the time and even confess to crimes they never committed, not because they are liable/guilty, but because its cheaper to give up or they can't afford to fight. It does happen, but rarely. Usually they plead because they are guilty.
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DownTheShore
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| Tired of the RIAA Taunting?
Then take some action.
I reported the site as racketeering to my state's Attorney General's office. Don't know if it'll do any good, but it made me feel better. 
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salahx
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Re: He paid, so I guess he was guilty
Its worse than you think.
With the advent of DNS DNA testing, almost 200 people on death row have been exonerated. About 20% of them had confessed.
That the extreme case. This is only a civil suit; not criminal. Copyright infringement isn't a capital offense (yet).
DNS testing might more applicable to the defendants in test cases, though. If the subnet mask doesn't fit, you must acquit....
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kaila
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| It's hard to imagine the RIAA having interests.....
any farther apart from most artists and consumers than they are right now.
I'm not advocating piracy, but something has got to change. Think about this- we are living with the distinct possibility that nothing in our creative culture will be put in the public domain within my or my childrens lifetime. Where non-commercial public access to our culture is only available if we pay for it. Do we really want this?
You know, as first written in the Constitution, copyright law was never supposed to effect ordinary citizens. I know technology has changed the terrain since then, but I miss the original spirit.
Sorry for the rant.... |
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lesopp
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Land O Lakes, FL | reply to salahx
Re: He paid, so I guess he was guilty
Yeah I remember when my DNS was tested. The result was 172.30.255.4 |
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vpoko
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Re: Wow
said by calvoiper :said by djtim21 :...Somehow this isn't legal, but yet the *IAA's get away with it. ...and here I thought the downloading without royalty payment part was the illegal stuff.... calvoiper Two wrongs don't make a right. |
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Re: He paid, so I guess he was guilty
There's no place like 127.0.0.1! |
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jtudor
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Morganton, NC | reply to lesopp
Mine was 192.168.1.100. |
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Re: Tired of the RIAA Taunting?
said by DownTheShore :Then take some action. I reported the site as racketeering to my state's Attorney General's office. Don't know if it'll do any good, but it made me feel better. I am going to as well in my state, so you aren't alone. |
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Re: It's hard to imagine the RIAA having interests.....
You know, as first written in the Constitution, copyright law was never supposed to effect ordinary citizens.
Errrr. Small problem.
The Copyright Clause in the Constitution never says anything about not affecting ordinary citizens. It allows Congress to enact statutes "To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries."
It really doesn't say anything the statutes should contain, aside from that. As the current copyright is a limited duration of 'Life Of Author + 75 years' with the option for extensions (which are themselves composed of limited timeframes), that meets the requirements listed in the Constitution. The Supreme Court affirmed it in Eldred v. Ashcroft in 2003.
*shrugs*
While I think the RIAA is being a bit arrogant about the whole thing, I cannot deny that they have the legal right to sue on behalf of the authors of the copyrighted work - unless the author decides/is able to intervene. If they want to set up a fast-food settlement drive-thru, they're within their legal rights to do so. It's not the way -I- would do it, but then, I'd want to see the law firm I'm working for make more in billable hours for negotiating settlements. |
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Re: He paid, so I guess he was guilty
said by salahx :Its worse than you think.With the advent of DNS DNA testing, almost 200 people on death row have been exonerated. About 20% of them had confessed. From the link above YOU chose:
Q: How do we know that false confessions occur in the real world? A: The breakthrough was DNA testing. Already, 187 people (as of November, 2006) convicted of crimes have been exonerated by DNA. To the amazement of almost everyone, more than a fifth of them had confessed. quote:
that is convictions, NOT death row cases, and that is over 20 yrs
Q: Drizin and Leo claim 125 cases of false confessions, but the Innocence Project, which does DNA testing, has only uncovered about 30 cases.
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Bobcat
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looking forward to future business together
After paying that much, who can afford to buy CDs? |
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Re: Wow
said by vpoko :The government needs to go after RIAA for racketeering, this is like the mob selling protection. It is Fascism pure and simple. The political hacks are sharing in the shake down. Why do you think they let it be done. |
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perrymason
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Re: Tired of the RIAA Taunting?
lawyers chasing lawyers? good luck with it. |
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