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Comments on news posted 2007-03-05 18:17:33: The longstanding debate between webcasters and the RIAA really hasn't been a hot topic since 2002-2003, when the RIAA pushed hard for some significant royalties that threatened to put smaller operations out of business. ..

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TKJunkMail
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 United States Copyright Royalty Board ??

For those who have heard of the Copyright Office and the Library of Congress and their parts in copyright management, but have never heard of the United States Copyright Royalty Board, here is a link to their web site:
»www.loc.gov/crb/

Here are the 3 guys who make the decisions on royalty rates:
»www.loc.gov/crb/background/crb-judges.html

Here is the web page with links to written testimony that led up to this decision:
»www.loc.gov/crb/proceedings/

Participants in the hearings that led to the decision:
»www.loc.gov/crb/proceedings/2005···icipants
A question I have is where were all these music streaming groups with their comments on the hearings that have been ongoing thru 2006? They had their chance to make their case, but they didn't take part. NOW, they are all running around and whining. Where were they for the last year?
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I agree I never heard of it until now.

markopoleo

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Yawn, just start in other countries like most do already.

Stream from russia or some other nation don't have to worry. problem solved. I listen to most stations now that just rebroadcast songs from the USA stations now.


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Increase price to kill "unlicensed" webcasters

I guess RIAA wants to destroy smaller webcasters so only left will be large RIAA-partners like maybe iTunes. That way RIAA can control what's played and encourage specific tracks for users to buy, by for example, cutting them in half or interfering with messages, ads.

Now small webcasters promote less known music not heard on mainstream radio stations and offers HUGE variety and decent quality.

It's like radio and RIAA doesn't get it, they still think webcasts are threat to radio like mp3s to CDs even though older offers more flexibility.

If only DI.fm was offered on satellite radio, I would get it right now.
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daslog

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So what's the problem?

They own the rights to the content, they should be able to charge for it.

Or is this another "we should be able to pirate it becuase it's easy to" post?

DJC2006

join:2006-10-10
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 ummmm....

I said this to the last post about the RIAA and I'll say it again. FUCK YOU!


AnnaS8

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Annapolis, MD
Just the usual...

RIAA bending them over. Greedy bastards.


jwardl

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Spring, TX

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Man, the RIAA is slowly digging their own grave -- they just don't see it yet.

Every radio (internet, satellite, or conventional) station playing a song amounts to an advertisement for the RIAA's products. Most producers of a product have to PAY OTHERS to get their product publicized.

I know a guy who invented a new water filtration system. Maybe he should produce an entertaining commercial, then charge TV and radio stations to air his ad. That way, he can't fail!

Sheesh -- even people who sell through mass marketers have to give away free samples.

Good going, RIAA. Drive your advertisers out of business by nickel and diming them to death, and keep blaming college students for your declining sales. Heck, extortion is much more profitable, anyway.


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Re: So what's the problem?

said by daslog See Profile :

They own the rights to the content, they should be able to charge for it.

Or is this another "we should be able to pirate it becuase it's easy to" post?
If you read about monopolies and how they relate to destroying the theory of capitalism you will see why this should not be allowed.
Adam Smith is a good starting point to start reading.
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Think of schools....

A friend of mine who now works on air for Cox Radio used to be the program manager at a local college station. About 10 years ago they had almost shut down the station because of these fees. At the time something was worked out, to tell the truth - since it really didn't impact me at the time I didn't pay to much attention to what he was telling me. But now looking at this, it would seem to me that this might cause many schools to shut down their stations to aviod paying these higher royalties.

In the end this hurts everyone.


Boricua65

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Keep on keeping on.

I just keep listening to songs I downloaded, and burned on a CD, on my 10-disc CD changer.

RIAA can kiss my dark Puerto Rican a33. They are nothing but a two-bit thug trying to get as much money as possible. "Damn, Guido, I taught I told you to take care of it?"

EDIT: for clarification.

Carnivore

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reply to daslog
Re: So what's the problem?

said by daslog See Profile :

They own the rights to the content, they should be able to charge for it.

Or is this another "we should be able to pirate it becuase it's easy to" post?
daslog, nobody is looking for a way to pirate music here. Webcasters currently pay high rates for the rights to legally stream music. The RIAA and their copyright board just jacked those rates so high that it will now cost the webcasters more than twice as much in royalties to play those same songs as they can make in revenue. The copyright board has made their business model unsustainanble for all but the richest mega-corporations. This is RIAA greed to the max.

If anything the RIAA is encouraging piracy, because now the only way for these legitimate webcasters to stay in business now is to move offshore and skirt U.S. law.


Dagda1175

join:2001-06-17
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Charge them like a radio station

just make the same rules apply that always have for regular fm radio stations. i dont think a new system is needed.

averagedude

join:2002-01-30
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Re: Think of schools....

Now do you understand why so many Comm Colleges go "talk radio/news" or "sleepy time classical (semi/public domain)?


NowVOIP
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Another example...

Of how America moves closer to being a communist country.


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Killing them softly

Seems to be these guys are just alienating themselves and the artists they promote/own from the direction that media and content is heading to in this Digital Age. But apparently they are only interested in short-term profit.

Solution: Don't play RIAA artists on your stations.

They must have A LOT of crazy bald heads working in that firm. No up and coming marketing Guy/Gal would be coming up with these wacky ideas, policies and procedures to lead the company forward.

Eh, what do i know though..


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Re: So what's the problem?

said by daslog See Profile :

They own the rights to the content, they should be able to charge for it.

So the power co. decided to raise your rates- would it be ok if they made it retroactive- after all they own the power?

Dydion

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Re: Killing them softly

So where is a list of non-RIAA musicians that we can listen to?


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reply to Tomek
Re: Increase price to kill "unlicensed" webcasters

The RIAA could care less who is playing the music whether its a small time site or something like iTunes (although I don't beleive they stream, you get the idea). All they care about is getting their money. And because streaming doesn't get them nearly as much as you buying a CD, they don't like streaming.
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reply to Dydion
Re: Killing them softly

You can start here »www.riaaradar.com/
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