DaveNJ
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New Jersey
1 edit | Bad PR for Verizon
Beside Verizon's "were always better" attitude, and were the phone company!, "opps just lost Peoria. " mindset, I am grateful for cable voip. Hey verizon $20 a month unlimited, with voicemail and other features can you match ? |
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Loker
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| said by DaveNJ  :Beside Verizon's "were always better" attitude, and were the phone company!, "opps just lost Peoria. " mindset, I am grateful for cable voip. Hey verizon $20 a month unlimited, with voicemail and other features can you match ? ok you asked for it »media.putfile.com/Lily-Tomlin-As···mmercial
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NOCMan
Verizon Fios User
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join:2004-09-30
Flower Mound, TX
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That 4.93 would put Vonage as more expensive than verizon's VOIP product.
Sounds exactly how the telco's put mom and pop ISP's who introduced most people to the real internet, out of business. They did this by offering us the ability to provide DSL services, but after their fees we could not match their prices and make a profit that could keep us open.
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N3OGH
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join:2003-11-11
Philly burbs
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| This is a deal breaker for Vonage.
Quoted from the article.
"Vonage has said that the outcome of the case would not disrupt its business."
Yeah, right. Vonage loses this case, they're baked.
I'm not patent attorney, and I don't know all the facts in the case. That said, if Verizon wins, good for them, and look for the "for sale" sign to be hanging up at Vonage.
If Vonage wins, shame on Verizon for this type of heavy handed go for the jugular use of the court system.
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jtel
join:2005-06-28
Bristol, RI
| This is Crazy
I understand that Verizon uses another company for its VoiceWing service (iconnect?). Do they license their technology to them? Do they pay Verizon $5/mo for their own customers?
Verizon buys out Vonage as part of a settlement.  |
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scrummie02
Bentley
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join:2004-04-16
Arlington, VA
| Seems the customer gets it the worst.
I have used Vonage for over two years. It's been reliable and the service has been good. Their customer service sucks, but I've only ever had to call them twice. I only pay about 27 a month because Virginia decided to tax VOIP. Even with that, it's still cheaper than anything offered by Comcast/Verizon, and I get all the features.
If this puts Vonage out of business that means I'll have to settle for a service that will cost me more money yet offer me no more benefits. This is horrible. I hope Vonage wins, their small business package is a great deal....
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odreian615
join:2006-01-18
Chicago, IL | I keep saying this on here and Digg
Comcast will buy Vonage along with Sprint |
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lesopp
join:2001-06-27
Land O Lakes, FL | Seems Fair?
That should be the same compensatory amount when someone sues Verizon for handing over privacy information to he NSA. |
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inurenegade
join:2006-06-11
Wilmington, DE | I suddenly...
suddenly i feel like getting vonage's service for the hell of it |
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Jeffrey
Merry Christmas
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1 edit |  Sunrocket? Packet8? Other VoIP?
I read the article, but there wasn't really enough information in there to describe why other VoIP's aren't being brought into the mix...What is Verizon specifically saying that Vonage did that other VoIP's have not? I'm a little confused there as to both issues (what specifically is it, & why it's only Vonage.) |
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Primis1
join:2005-06-13
Coldwater, MI
| Interesting.
I'm a Verizon DSL user that also then uses Vonage for my voice services.
That said, if Verizon wins and I lose Vonage, so be it. If Vonage loses it means they infringed and I can't feel too sorry for them I guess. Such is the price of infringement. I can't say I have any special attachment to Vonage at this point... |
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woody7
Premium
join:2000-10-13
Torrance, CA
·EarthLink
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| hmmmm.......
why didn't this lawsuit happen as soon as Vonage started, I thought you had to defend your patents in an expeditious manner? these kinds of lawsuits are what makes us a #ucked up country in regards to technology and innovation...JMT
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JamesPC
join:2005-10-12
Orange, CA | reply to N3OGH
Re: This is a deal breaker for Vonage.
they have millions to waist on legal bullshit. They act like a damn government agency but try to get all the perks of private ownership. |
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soccerguy
join:2004-06-28
Seattle, WA
|  reply to Jeffrey
Re: Sunrocket? Packet8? Other VoIP?
Excellent question. I have Speakeasy VOIP. Does that mean Verizon will target them (or Covad) next? If their claims are true, and the patents are essential to VOIP, then isn't every non-Verizon VOIP provider (including Comcast, Qwest, EarthLink, Charter) at risk? |
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Toguro
join:2003-10-23
Ottawa, IL | reply to Loker
Re: Bad PR for Verizon
That's how they still act 21 years later.  |
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Jeffrey
Merry Christmas
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Dix Hills,NY
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| reply to inurenegade
Re: I suddenly...
said by inurenegade :suddenly i feel like getting vonage's service for the hell of it I can only say great things about them. The occasional (a few times per year) hiccup for 5 or 6 hours a day, but other than that, rock solid performance. I recommend them constantly to people who have good performing cable or dsl connections.
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RadioDoc
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join:2000-05-11 | reply to woody7
Re: hmmmm.......
Verizon did not own MCI at the time.
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nixen
Rockin' the Boxen
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join:2002-10-04
Alexandria, VA
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Re: This is a deal breaker for Vonage.
said by N3OGH :Quoted from the article. "Vonage has said that the outcome of the case would not disrupt its business." Yeah, right. Vonage loses this case, they're baked. I'm not patent attorney, and I don't know all the facts in the case. That said, if Verizon wins, good for them, and look for the "for sale" sign to be hanging up at Vonage. Doubtful. Look more for a Chapter 11 or, even more likely, a Chapter 7 sign. I mean, really, who's going to want to buy Vonage's patent liabilities?
-tom
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD | Wonder if other cable companies are next?
This could get interesting.  |
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
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·buckeye cable
1 edit | reply to nixen
Re: This is a deal breaker for Vonage.
Cable providers may like to add some of the customers to their Digital Phone, AT&T would like some for their CallVantage and VZ would like the rest.
But this whole thing does suck. With Vonage having the USB Softphone that you can use anywhere its really saved me a ton of money calling my brother thats over in the UK as an exchange student. |
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