nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD | competition the american way
that's the spirit, don't compete on price, product or service - sue their @sses! |
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bfncbs1
join:2005-11-16
Charlotte Hall, MD
| Forgotten DWAY subscribers
this is exactly why there so called broadband service is horrible. OVERSUBSCRIBED!!! Speed use to be only a issue at night for direcway now it's all day everyday. The absolute worse service there is. I was a 5 year subscriber to direcway and was happy for the first 4. Now I am a ex customer because of this. Thank god for EVDO.
I know the money is in HD and DTV is banking on the fact that if they can offer it the customers will come. My question is what about the DWAY customers have you forgotten that we pay and average of 59.99 each? Guess so. Pitiful. |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| reply to nasadude
Re: competition the american way
said by nasadude  :that's the spirit, don't compete on price, product or service - sue their @sses! Well as a consumer if a company is promoting something that is not true, hell yes I'd sue. Say what you mean and mean what you say. DirectTVs HD isn't even REAL HD anyways. It's called HD Lite. So I'm not sure how they are going to offer 100X more channels when the 6-8 they offer aren't even in real HD. |
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hobgoblin
Sortof Agoblin
Premium
join:2001-11-25
Orchard Park, NY
clubs:
| How about the Networks DirecTV
Having just moved and traded in a DirectTV system for TWC I am blown away by the Networks in HD. Of course DirectTV never was able to offer the Buffalo Networks.
TWC Line up is way better!
Hob
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CycloneGT
join:2001-11-15
Boyds, MD
1 edit | Battle of Vaporware
This is funny.
TWC is Suing DirectTV (D*) because Time Warners's non-existent (Switched Digital Video is not in service yet) is just as capable as DirectTV's non-existent (Satellites aren't even up in space) New HDTV service (not including their existing low capacity offering).
So TWC is suing because their will be is just as good as D*'s could be. If TWC wanted to really smack down D*, they should just point out how terrible the Picture Quality looks on the HDTV channels that DirecTV currently carries. They have decreased the resolution (1280x1080i instead of 1920x1080i) and starved the bandwidth on their HD channels to the extent that they are now referred to as HD-Lite. If TWC or Comcast just drove that point home, they could do some serious damage. |
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woody7
Premium
join:2000-10-13
Torrance, CA
 ·EarthLink
·DSL EXTREME
| hmmmmm.....
"Simple" we need a truth in advertising law.. 
There was a movie with Carrot Top and he invented a "Bull$hit" shirt that lighted up when the wearer told a lie. That is what consumers need now...JMT
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golfgeek
join:2005-11-21
Bryans Road, MD
| That is true also......you pay what $11 a month for 10 channels and out of that 10 only 2 or 3 are worth watching. Half the HD channels are so porr in PQ it's pathetic.
Plus all this advertising for 150 channels reeling customers in...people spending anywhere from $100-300 for equipment that will break every other day. Amazing! |
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Da Geek Kid
join:2003-10-11
Mclean, VA
| Furthermore....
TWC, CANNOT produce all those channels and give them to their existing customers free of charge by EOY of 2007... It is something that a Monopoly business will do to compete with others... I feel so bad for the folks who have cable. The cable providers thinks that they're doing you a favor by charging high and providing mediocre quality service... |
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brooklynman4
join:2004-09-07
Brooklyn, NY | Well get ready to see ure bills get a hike due to this. |
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DaSneaky1D
one wall to block them all
Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-29
The Lou
 ·Charter Pipeline
2 edits | reply to BF69
Re: competition the american way
"HD Lite" is a concocted term meant to spread FUD. The quality is just fine.
EDIT - Yes, resampling is there, but it is nonetheless HD.
Incidently, according to Wikipedia, TWC resamples in this fashion as well:
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hd_lite
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NOCMan
Verizon Fios User
Premium
join:2004-09-30
Flower Mound, TX
| Care to prove HD Lite is FUD?
I've seen plenty examples to prove that the satellite providers dumb down the signal to skimp on used bandwidth.
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dispatcher21
join:2004-01-22
united state
| reply to DaSneaky1D
No, it is not HD. HD is 1280x720 or 1920x1080, not 1280x1080 that Directv is trying to pass as HD. There is no FUD about it, Directv does not offer true HD, but neither does Dishnetwork or many other cable providers. To my knowledge(as a few years ago), only Comcast offers HDTV channels without altering the data stream from the source. |
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DaSneaky1D
one wall to block them all
Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-29
The Lou
·Charter Pipeline
| reply to NOCMan
I'm not saying re-sampling is not happening. Saying that any re-sampling is totally destroys the picture is FUD. The quality (of course, totally subjective) is fine.
And what's wrong with trying to conserve bandwidth? Unlike terrestrial services, you can't really upgrade bandwidth to space too easily.
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| reply to DaSneaky1D
said by DaSneaky1D :"HD Lite" is a concocted term meant to spread FUD. The quality is just fine. EDIT - Yes, resampling is there, but it is nonetheless HD. Incidently, according to Wikipedia, TWC resamples in this fashion as well: » en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hd_lite So what if TWC uses this? I'm not in TWC territory. TWC is not on TV having Dr Brown say how they are going to have 100X more HD capacity when they don't even have the capacity for 8 HD channles NOW. Here's a novel ideal, how about telling me you have 100X the HD capacity WHEN YOU ACTUALLY HAVE IT. |
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Dmoralize
join:2004-12-17
Nazareth, PA
| Sue Sue Sue
As has been mentioned before... these companies are just bitchy and annoying now. They all offer JUNK service and then sue each other and throw tantrums. It's just politics anymore. Rather than explain why their own service is good, they just explain why the other one is bad.
Instead of trying to get money by whining about DTV, why doesn't TWC put their money where their mouth is and offer all of the HD content that they claim to support?
I also don't know where this garbage about DTV's HD quality came from. My DTV HD channels look as good as anything i've seen on my friend's cable. You can point out all of the technical imperfections you want, but in real life practice, the end result is just as good. |
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golfgeek
join:2005-11-21
Bryans Road, MD | It all depends on the network and how they deliver......There's nothing as good as HDNET or Discovery HD. TNT and Universal are terrible. There not true HD |
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lovswr
join:2001-09-15
Stockbridge, GA | reply to DaSneaky1D
Re: competition the american way
Yes HD lite is a term of derision used by us customers, but I can assure you the "quality" is not fine at all.
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na
@tsaadvet.com
| reply to dispatcher21
said by dispatcher21 :No, it is not HD. HD is 1280x720 or 1920x1080, not 1280x1080 that Directv is trying to pass as HD. There is no FUD about it, Directv does not offer true HD, but neither does Dishnetwork or many other cable providers. To my knowledge(as a few years ago), only Comcast offers HDTV channels without altering the data stream from the source. Wrong! Anything over 1280x720 is HD. It doesn't specifically have to be 1280x720 or 1920x1080. Another reason they call it HD lite is because it is bit starved, not necessarily because of the resolution.
»www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t···=hd+lite |
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hobgoblin
Sortof Agoblin
Premium
join:2001-11-25
Orchard Park, NY
clubs:
| reply to Dmoralize
Re: Sue Sue Sue
"Instead of trying to get money by whining about DTV, why doesn't TWC put their money where their mouth is and offer all of the HD content that they claim to support?"
and why does not Direct shut their faces about what they will have and get it done.
TWC currently kicks their ass in western NY if you want networks.
Hob
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magnushsi
join:2002-11-06
Cedar Springs, MI
| reply to CycloneGT
Re: Battle of Vaporware
said by CycloneGT :TWC is Suing DirectTV (D*) because Time Warners's non-existent (Switched Digital Video is not in service yet) is just as capable as DirectTV's non-existent (Satellites aren't even up in space) New HDTV service (not including their existing low capacity offering). I don't know what you are talking about. TWC does have SDV in service (with a couple different solutions) in several markets. With channel expansions having every week. |
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