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"Hi"
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join:2002-08-06
Boothbay, ME
clubs: | Sue Who? Who can I sue? There must be someone I can sue.
It's the "in thing" to do. You're no one until you sue someone.
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NEP1611
join:2002-03-27
Northford, CT
| Re: Sue Who? Kids, this is never going to go to trial. This is nothing more than a grandstanding ploy by Viacom to force Google's hand. Neither side wants this to go to trial, and both sides want to settle the issue. They throw around the big numbers like manhole covers so that the dolts working for the wire services will have something to sink their teeth into. (As you know, wire service dolts LOOOOOOVVVE numbers, even if they don't have a effing clue what they mean, exactly.)
Yeah, it's bullshit, but this is Corporate Big Money America, what the hell do you want. You want to sit around the campfire and sing kumbaya, go back to sixth grade. | |
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insomniac84
join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN
| Still boggles my mind. Why aren't these copyright holders just mimicking the way youTube works and setting up their own fan sites where fans can edit and alter shows/movies and post videos? If it works like youTube it probably will have no problems succeeding. It's only because they don't offer something similar to youTube that their fans go to youTube. | |
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PayUPfool
@comcast.net | Piracy can be a very expensive mistake ! You'd think YouFOOL would have seen the hand writing on the wall... but evidently not. They've got the message now. | |
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81399672
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join:2006-05-17
Los Angeles, CA | Youtube(google) got the money, they will win Google has as a lot of money and they are not stupid, if they though they would lose they would have gotten some kind of agreement with them before this lawsuit got filed.
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Rick
Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-06
Waterbury, CT
clubs: 
| Re: Youtube(google) got the money, they will win Having a lot of money doesn't always win for you though.
Just ask George Steinbrenner. Can they fight it? Sure they can fight it. But what is it they're fighting? I think anyone who's honest about it KNOWS that you tube is primarily engaged in the business of distributing copyrighted material and if they didn't have that..we probably wouldn't even know they existed.
And so, that begs the question, why would a legitimate company who's doing so well intentionally throw themselves into that snake pit...and pay a lot to even do it.
It's somewhat like someone deciding to download copyrighted songs off the net, using their real name, address and phone #..and having a note attached to it saying..c'mon RIAA, sue me. I have a lot of money to fight you.
It really seems as if, despite all costs, they were just bound and determined to own the hot company known as you tube...despite what business they were engaged in.
That could come back to haunt them big time down the road I think.
Don't get me wrong. I hope you tube is around forever. It's awesome. But, I think any honest discussion about them has to acknowledge that a great deal of what they offer up is video that they have no right to distribute.
Google needs to be careful that someday, some sympathetic jury doesn't decide that the violations were so huge and so blatant that maybe Viacom should get to own a big chunk of google as repayment.
It's just crazy to me that successful google would have stepped into this snake pit.
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NEP1611
join:2002-03-27
Northford, CT
| Re: Youtube(google) got the money, they will win said by Rick  :It's just crazy to me that successful google would have stepped into this snake pit. This is never going to trial. This is nothing more than a high-profile gambit by Viacom to assert the upper hand in any settlement. Neither side has anything to gain by a trial. It's no different than when Don King sued ESPN for $43 billion because of some perceived slight. | |
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Subaru
1-3-2-4
Premium
join:2001-05-31
Greenwich, CT
clubs: | I like what google said... "We will certainly not let this suit become a distraction" | |
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Gwailo
join:2000-07-16
Richardson, TX
clubs: | Was he right? "Mark Cuban has been a vocal opponent of YouTube, repeatedly slamming the company's upload feature and claiming only a 'moron' would acquire the company." | |
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ztmike
Mark for moderation
Premium
join:2001-08-02
Michigan City, IN | billion? Billion dollars? lol yea im sure they lost that much, or any money at that matter, youtube has shit for quality. | |
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DSLdewd
join:2004-06-05
Denver, CO | Why? Why is "copyright infringed" content always of better quality than the crap that is legitimite? | |
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join:2001-06-18
Washington, DC | Re: Why? People motivated by excitement vs. people motivated by their boss | |
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axus
join:2001-06-18
Washington, DC
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| law is on Google's side? Of course Google must follow the law, I think they are complying with the DMCA though. There is a steady removal of copyright infringing material, also a steady re-posting of it. The key is how well does Google respond to Viacom's requests, and what the law requires them to do.
Of course I can see why Viacom thinks the law is on their side, since they helped pay for it to be passed. | |
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SoFedUp
@verizon.net | Give Me A Break I work for Viacom and this is just a case of a failing mega company hoping to cash in on some other more successful business model. If Viacom had modernized its business plan YEARS ago... this would be a non issue. | |
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menumorut
BE an American.
join:2005-07-04
Queens Village, NY
| Pulse research. My opinion is kinda OT but none the less it is equally or more important that the large majority of you guys easily recognize right from wrong (and /or keep the biased opinions to a minimum).
If this was even possible on one of the socialist Euro(pee)on nations, most of the mindless population would side with Youtube.
Or even worse scream YouTube "no se cierra" (in allusion to southern Spain Delphi closing).
On topic, I hope Google put this calculated risk on the books before they acquired YouTube.If not they should pay the piper, move on and learn from their mistakes.
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Elf Wizard
Premium
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ | Re: Pulse research. if its just TV shows the the court should award Viacom nothing, since TV shows are already free to the viewer.
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ftthz
If love can kill hate can also save
join:2005-10-17 | + and - effects both sides are correct but just consider pros and cons to determine if it was a bad or good move | |
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pahuser
@comcast.net
| Enough already I think we should all live in a vacuum. Good Lord forbid we should hear or see something we didn't pay for. I guess when I walk down to the mailbox, get my mail, and hear some annoying crap on somebody's noise pollution bass pounding car stereo, they'll have to come sue me for hearing music I didn't own. You can say my analogy is valid or flawed. Doesn't matter to me. The silly nature of it all validates this statement. | |
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Doctor Four
My other vehicle is a TARDIS
Premium
join:2000-09-05
Dallas, TX
 ·AT&T U-Verse
| Viacom's Double Standard said by Valleywag :
Let me get this straight. Sumner Redstone's Viacom, outraged
at video grabs of programs such as the Daily Show, orders
Google to remove more than 100,000 clips from its Youtube
video sharing site. And then the 83-year-old media tycoon
authorizes a $1bn lawsuit against the Mountain View search
engine for "exploiting the devotion of fans" for its own
enrichment. And why not, while Viacom's at it, sue other video
sharing sites that offer copyrighted material, such as iFilm?
Ah, awkward: that particular video hub is owned by -- you've
guessed it -- a media conglomerate that just declared war on
Youtube, Viacom itself.
»valleywag.com/tech/double-standa···4874.php
Viacom are showing their true colors: hypocrisy. Just
like the other big media companies in Hollywood.
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