DufiefData
join:2006-06-13
Gaithersburg, MD
1 edit | Yikez! There's no solution!
"The FCC seems unwilling to improve their data collection methodology. Incumbent providers are not interested in providing data...and attempts to correct this are shot down by deep pocketed lobbyists. So what's the solution?"
There is no solution! Without this data, everybody's DSL modems will melt and the nation will explode from Digital Dividiosis!!! |
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shoan
join:2006-02-27
Benton, AR
| another approach
maryland could make a form or a website that the citizens of maryland could access and check boxes of what is offered to thier address. As incentive for this they could send a check for a few dollors for the citizens time. I know if I was told hey go to this state website and click yes or no to what was offered to my home be it dsl, cable, or wireless for a few dollors I would jump on it. Or they could add the question to the census that the state takes periodically. My town just recently held a special census just to see if they could get more state money since we are growing so fast. That way it is not forcing the providers to provide any information. But im sure they would lobby like hell to stop this simple way of mapping out where the broadband really is. |
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RayW
Premium
join:2001-09-01
Layton, UT
clubs:
 ·XMission
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Re: Yikez! There's no solution!
said by DufiefData  :"The FCC seems unwilling to improve their data collection methodology. Incumbent providers are not interested in providing data...and attempts to correct this are shot down by deep pocketed lobbyists. So what's the solution?" Now how can you imply that the cablecos and telcos have anything but the best interest of the people at their heart? It only looks like they are cherry picking and trying to maintain a tight grip on the infrastructure, they are doing 'phased' build-outs, honest, the scumless well off areas are being thought of. And those lawsuits and payoffs you read about are nothing more than an attempt at maintaining a high quality of service for the user.
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RIRWIN1983
join:2005-08-30
Columbus, OH | Want accurate counts
The PUC should realy know better where coverage is, or any utility locator, sinch they have to mark where the stuf is burried, why would a flag for comcast be in a yard that cant get their service, humm? |
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD | reply to shoan
Re: another approach
None of that would matter. You see, Maryland has a long tradition of taking lobby money and doing nothing for the citizens except raise their taxes and give themselves pay raises.
Maryland; If you can dream it, we can tax it. |
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Titus Pullo
I came, I saw, I slept
join:2004-06-26 | When monkeys fly out
of our arse, people will _start_ to realize just how f'd they are from corporate interests at the helm of government. Until then, it's a 'slow bleed' along a 'hard slog' until we 'round the corner' on a 'new america' at 'the end of the day'. |
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John T
@northgrum.com
| Coffee shops? Is it a paperwork argument?
close down regional coffee shops (that logic isn't explained).
Weird. Trying to understand that one. Are they perhaps arguing that coffee shops and other businesses that offer WiFi would find it too expensive and/or time-consuming to produce quarterly reports for the handful of customers who take advantage of their services, and might decide to not offer wireless rather than have to do all the paperwork? I suppose it's sort of plausible. |
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quatrix
Premium
join:2005-02-11
Davie, FL | They're running businesses
They can offer service wherever they want. It's no different from restaurants, supermarkets, etc. popping up in more profitable neighborhoods. It's called capitalism. |
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ross
join:2000-08-16
·Digizip
| reply to shoan
Re: another approach
Sorry, but your idea won't float for the following reasons:
1) Data collected from citizens would probably be incomplete, and erroneous.
2) Telco and Cableco employees would be encouraged to provide data that could be misleading for obvious reasons.
3) Paying anyone would really encourage and REWARD Telco and Cableco employees to respond.
4) Forcing the industry to release the required data is the only way an effective and accurate audit of infrastructure can be compiled and assessed. Anything less would produce sham results. |
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karlmarx
join:2006-09-18
iraq
·Fairpoint Communic..
| Not in their 'DNA'
Umm, they are corporations. By definition, a corporation tries to provide the least amount of service, for the greatest price it can charge. Naturally, that means they cherry pick the neighborhoods they serve.
If they AREN'T cherry picking, then why don't they want the data to see the light of day? Hmm.. me thinks they doth protest too much.
The solution, of course, is to have the FCC perform it's MANDATE, which is to SERVE THE PUBLIC GOOD. Note: The PUBLIC GOOD != Corporate welfare. The public good is that which helps the most number of people. Sure, the capitalists HATE the idea of an educated public. Why else would they protest the release of the raw data? Trust me, Verizon KNOWS what the raw data will show. It will show them cherry picking the areas they choose to service. It will SHOW them redlining entire communities. It will SHOW that Verizons best interest most certainly isn't the publics best interest. And THAT, of course, is what terrifies them. They are a UTILITY. PERIOD.
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
 ·Comcast
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Yikez! There is a solution!
State and local governments are left without the information needed to help improve geographical broadband coverage, and attempts to correct this are shot down by deep-pocketed lobbyists. So what's the solution? . Just put a question on the next census form asking if the household has broadband and a couple check boxes for speed. Then their will be a national map of broadband coverage.
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ieolus
Support The Clecs
join:2001-06-19
Duluth, GA | reply to quatrix
Re: They're running businesses
Except when they deny others via lawsuits/state lobbying from competing in the areas they decide to abandon (aka Muni broadband).
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bi0tech
join:2003-06-19
1 edit | reply to ross
Re: another approach
Anything less has and continues to produce sham results. |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | reply to TKJunkMail
Re: Yikez! There is a solution!
Even if they did have data on broadband in the US... would they do anything with it (anything to fix the problem that is) ? |
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N3OGH
Bear patrol must be working like a charm
Premium
join:2003-11-11
Philly burbs
 ·Verizon FIOS
·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to TKJunkMail
said by TKJunkMail :State and local governments are left without the information needed to help improve geographical broadband coverage, and attempts to correct this are shot down by deep-pocketed lobbyists. So what's the solution? . Just put a question on the next census form asking if the household has broadband and a couple check boxes for speed. Then their will be a national map of broadband coverage. Good solution for a quick snapshot, but a few problems with using the census is;
1: It's only conducted every 10 years. Pretty much an eternity in the tech world.
2: A lot of people would have no idea what broadband is, or if they have it. The data would be um, mildly unreliable...
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FCC, PLEASE KILL THE MERGER BEFORE THE MERGER KILLS SATRAD! |
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Dmoralize
join:2004-12-17
Nazareth, PA
| Big surprise...
I live in an area that was stuck with poor dial up service for a long time. I even got to the point where I wrote a letter to my representative about it because cable companies and Verizon didn't seem interested in ever getting us up to speed.
Sure enough, soon after I contacted my rep. Verizon got their DSL up and running here. Most likely a coincedence, but I figured it couldn't hurt to let the reps know what was going on. It is especially frustrating here in PA because it seems as though companies like Verizon just don't feel like servicing some areas, yet they're hell bent on preventing others from servicing them too. |
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N3OGH
Bear patrol must be working like a charm
Premium
join:2003-11-11
Philly burbs
·Verizon FIOS
·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to moonpuppy
Re: another approach
said by moonpuppy :None of that would matter. You see, Maryland has a long tradition of taking lobby money and doing nothing for the citizens except raise their taxes and give themselves pay raises. Maryland; If you can dream it, we can tax it. HMM, sounds like PA!!!!
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FCC, PLEASE KILL THE MERGER BEFORE THE MERGER KILLS SATRAD! |
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anon999
@ameritech.net
| And
New York
California
Florida
Michigan
Texas
Montana
Nevada
Alabama
Georgia
Kentucky
Minnesota
Ohio
Colorado
Maine
North Carolina
South Carolina
Oklahoma
Kansas
Massachusetts
Tennessee
Arizona
New Mexico
Illinois
etc. etc. etc.
All the same. Politicians who think of themselves and government and how they can get more money out of everybody. |
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batterup
I Can Not Tell A Lie.
Premium
join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ
clubs: | So what's the solution?
Ma Bell is dead and yet the people bitch. |
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
| reply to RIRWIN1983
Re: Want accurate counts
said by RIRWIN1983 :The PUC should realy know better where coverage is, or any utility locator, sinch they have to mark where the stuf is burried, why would a flag for comcast be in a yard that cant get their service, humm? But thats "proprietory trade secrets". The PUCs and DOTs have plenty of info on broadband but they cant release it. lol |
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