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Comments on news posted 2007-03-20 14:58:04: U-Verse, AT&T's IPTV and VDSL service, has arrived in portions of Kansas City, notes the Kansas City Star (also see press release). ..

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RideRed
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Quanity is meaningless

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...we have more than 25 channels of HD programming
One look as my DishHD lineup sums it up. Equator, Rave and Monster channels are beyond lame. Having "more" HD channels in and of itself doesn't mean much.

desreversti

join:2002-09-03
San Antonio, TX

TV quality

I do not have U-Verse myself, but a friend of mine's dad has it (he works for AT&T and has for a long time). I can easily say that I was impressed on how quick th channels changed compared to Time Warner's digital cable. Also, the picture quality was not that bad and I so far have positive impression of it.


nixen

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Re: Quanity is meaningless

said by RideRed See Profile :

quote:
...we have more than 25 channels of HD programming
One look as my DishHD lineup sums it up. Equator, Rave and Monster channels are beyond lame. Having "more" HD channels in and of itself doesn't mean much.
But think of it: with multiple streams, you'll be able to watch more than one hi-def piece of garbage, concurrently.


morbo
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multi-stream HD?


AT&T: please explain how you are going to do this without it being at the expense of the customer's internet connection?

Gilitar

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The death of satellite

Do you guys think that IPTV and On Demand cable will kill satellite? There is no way satellite providers can compete with on demand. The old way of just simply broadcasting may be in trouble.


Karl Bode
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reply to morbo
Re: multi-stream HD?

I would think the image quality has to take a pretty big hit....but I guess we'll see.

KingofCola

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reply to desreversti
Re: TV quality

The HD channel quality/clarity is impressive. These are the listed HD channels in San Antonio Market:

A&E, Cinimax, Discovery, ESPN, ESPN2, Food Network, HBO, HDNet, HDNet movies, HGTV, 4 Local HD Networks, MHD, National Geographic, NFL, Showtime, Starz, TMC, TNT, Universal, and Wealth.

Gilitar

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reply to morbo
Re: multi-stream HD?

I think they use some sort of gateway that throttles back internet to alot more bandwidth to tv when needed.


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reply to Gilitar
Re: The death of satellite

I think they're safe for 5-10 years. It will take a long time for IPTV deployments to hit any kind of critical mass. Besides: despite all the attention given U-Verse, AT&T's largest deployment will be Homezone, which is a DSL/Satellite hybrid service....

Broadband video is going to hurt all of these guys eventually, so it may be a moot point.

elijha35

join:2004-11-09
Independence, MO
reply to RideRed
Re: Quanity is meaningless

It would be nice if it was available where i live in kansas city. Guess i will need to move out of independence if i want it.

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Re: The death of satellite

Despite all the hype most people just want to watch TV, not interact with it. That includes video on demand, which can be a royal pain in the ass to use (Comcast's on this system is broken half the time). IPTV needs a lot more bandwidth than most have at home right now, and neither it's appetite nor the supply is going to change much in the near future.

The current broadcast networks may be in trouble, since they make almost all their money from advertising placed at specific times in specific programs, but that'll change once some other income model becomes viable. Product placement has been around since pictures started to move on screen, and every new technology has been touted as the death of those which preceded it. Radio was supposed to be dead how many times now?

Those TV programs in on-demand systems are produced by those same networks more and more since the prohibition on network ownership was repealed. Universal (NBC) is huge in production. They make money each time a program is shown, no matter what the venue.
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reply to morbo
Re: multi-stream HD?

said by morbo See Profile :

AT&T: please explain how you are going to do this without it being at the expense of the customer's internet connection?
If you go to www.uverseusers.com and check their forums, you will see many people syncing @ 60-70Mbps. They are not getting all of this bandwidth, its currently capped at about 26mb, but as at&t rolls out more HDTV streams later this year, you will definitely see this cap raised.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a faster internet tier emerge also by years end.


en102
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reply to Karl Bode
Re: The death of satellite

I agree with you on that one...
In a few years, the 'TV' will be nothing more than a PC with a soft TV (MobiTV, YouTube, IPTV, etc), and the traditional cable/satellite/telco/wireless will be just another data stream


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few things about this

The press release states that the launch is in Kansas City Kansas, not Kansas City Missouri. They are two different cities. Also, none of the services are available in Missouri at this time.

And yesterday I got a notice from Comcast that my rates are going up.

So this launch has done nothing for me at all. And the people who can get this service probably happen to live in very affluent areas of the cities covered.
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amungus
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Yeah, one guess as to which county got it...

Somehow I doubt they're serving, say, Prospect Ave. (or anywhere downtown) anytime in the near future.

I think the term "cherrypicking" probably applies to this new "market" area.


Neyland

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reply to KingofCola
Re: TV quality

What is the current bit rate and resolution? Any compression or is it pure OTA quality? Do they plan on maintaining that same level of service while being able to compete on Internet bandwidth when they offer multi HD feeds?

bogey780

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reply to Karl Bode
Re: multi-stream HD?

The default gateway speed is 25M. They could be planning on upping it and who knows...maybe even a VDSL2 upgrade. But for a second HD channel it's 10Mb/s more.


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reply to amungus
Re: few things about this

Concurred.

I don't see them lighting up Blue Springs, Lees Summit, Rattown...Raytown, my bad, Meth-dependents....oops, Independence or any place where the median income is below 80K a year.

And ATT has the fiber in the ground already, along with the boxes set up here in Blue Springs. I bet that ATT is waiting for the state legislature to roll over and play dead for them before we see anything being announced here.

And since that unnamed county is served by multiple cable providers already makes no sense for them to launch there, other than the fact that they can sell a mostly useless product to a bunch of sheeple that are willing to try anything so long as they can feel like they are more advanced than the people who live right across the street, even though they can't operate a can opener without a trip to the ER...Not that the people across the street are any smarter anyway.

Such is life....
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siouxmoux

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If I had Choose I Rather have Faster Net Access then Second

If I had Choose I Rather have Faster Net Access then Second HDTV Stream. Come on ATT 6mp is not fast enough for my needs. Right now Comcast could flip a switch and offer 16/2. But with those offerings from ATT. Comcast has no Incentive to Upgrade HSI speeds.

Also when Will ATT will carry FSN Bay Area. They carry every other FSN RSN nationally.

vinnie97

join:2003-12-05
Mesquite, TX
reply to moby866
Re: few things about this

LOL, cynical much?
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