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| Re: crazy said by apollo80 :Looks like little Georgie Orwell was right... About what?
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| Re: crazy said by pnh102 :said by apollo80 :Looks like little Georgie Orwell was right... About what? The Gestapo.
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| Re: crazy said by Warez_Zealot :The Gestapo. Where? Should I look busy?
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1 edit | Re: crazy Well think about it.. Apparently the FBI already do tons of inet taps/user info retrieval that are complete abuses of their powers.. Now Homeland Security wants the power access the "DNS Masterkey". I'm sure they will use that key wisely.. They will use this power to spy on the Chinese, Russians, Japanese, Canadians, etc.... if they can get away w/ it..
If I were you, I would look busy, cause that red light on your cable box, and that red light in your smoke detector are actually recording lights for the cameras "they" suck in there. 
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| Re: crazy said by Mordhem :Vary true, hell if this keeps up then hell I am convinced we should let go the internet and give it to a 3rd party like the UN. Its really stupid, we say we will not governor the web, and then look what we go and do! <sarcasm>
You might be right... maybe there just are not enough smart people here to manage DNS.
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| Re: Some group will hold master key - why not IANA ? said by nasadude :until we emerge from the current "1984" period Again, what is the USA doing that is so 1984-esque?
I've read the book numerous times. I don't see 2 way telescreens that cannot be turned off, or people who don't agree with the government being hauled to room 101, or subversive literature being banned, or food rationing, or historical revisionism...
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| Re: Some group will hold master key - why not IANA ? said by pnh102 :Again, what is the USA doing that is so 1984-esque? .. illegal wiretaps, spying on protester groups (including the Quakers), suspension of habeas corpus, torture/Guantanamo,"secret" rendition, subversion of the U.S. justice system.
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| Re: Some group will hold master key - why not IANA ? said by nasadude :illegal wiretaps, spying on protester groups (including the Quakers), suspension of habeas corpus, torture/Guantanamo,"secret" rendition, subversion of the U.S. justice system. If you need some more, let me know and I'll dig 'em up. "Illegal" wiretaps and spying on protest groups has been going on for a lot longer than the past 6 years, dude.
As for the suspension of habeas corpus, the Constitution does allow for this in times when public safety may demand it, and outside of a handful of US citizens who were declared illegal combatants, where is the massive, rampant, and unjustified subversion of this writ?
Torture at Club Gitmo? I wish! Detainees there have put on weight since they have been confinement, get medical care on our dime, and still have their limbs intact. If non-lethal waterboarding, listening to loud rap music and being subjected to the heat/AC being turned on and off is "torture," especially when compared to what other governments do, then that is pretty sad.
And again, none of these things, while controversial, parallel the actions taken by the government in the book 1984.
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| Re: Some group will hold master key - why not IANA ? said by kapil :Yes. And I beat my wife silly every time she acts out. You should listen to her...the bitch is practically asking for it! So again, you prove my point that we do not live under a government similar to that described in 1984.
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2 edits | sorry pnh102, didn't realize you were an apologist for the administration. my bad; I will calibrate my responses accordingly.
Torture at Club Gitmo? I wish! Detainees there have put on weight since they have been confinement, get medical care on our dime, and still have their limbs intact. If non-lethal waterboarding, listening to loud rap music and being subjected to the heat/AC being turned on and off is "torture," especially when compared to what other governments do, then that is pretty sad.
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| Re: Some group will hold master key - why not IANA ? said by nasadude :Torture at Club Gitmo? I wish! Detainees there have put on weight since they have been confinement, get medical care on our dime, and still have their limbs intact. If non-lethal waterboarding, listening to loud rap music and being subjected to the heat/AC being turned on and off is "torture," especially when compared to what other governments do, then that is pretty sad.April fools was yesterday - today is April 2. Dude, go look it up. Everything I've said is a verifiable fact.
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| Re: Some group will hold master key - why not IANA ? 1984 was not just about telescreens - that was surface stuff
The use of fear tactics (ANA the War On Terror) and endless politcally manufactured wars with changing enemies was a central theme of 1984, along with the endless tubthumping and flagwaving of the general proletariat (read YOU). Osama Bin Laden/Saddam Hussein as Emmanuel Goldstein?
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| Re: Some group will hold master key - why not IANA ? said by nozzer :1Osama Bin Laden/Saddam Hussein as Emmanuel Goldstein? You have got to be f-ing kidding me.
You're saying... that the US government simply made up the threats posed by OBL and Saddam Hussein...?
Because, after all, that is what the government in 1984 claimed about Goldstein.
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| Re: Some group will hold master key - why not IANA ? Nowhere in 1984 does it say that Goldstein was "made up". However, like OBL and Hussein, the threat he posed was greatly exagerated, and used as a bogeyman for the proletariat hatred to focus on, rather than question their own government and its motives. | |
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| Re: Some group will hold master key - why not IANA ? said by nozzer :Nowhere in 1984 does it say that Goldstein was "made up". You must have missed the part where O'Brian claims he wrote "the book within a book" in 1984.
said by nozzer :However, like OBL and Hussein, the threat he posed was greatly exagerated, and used as a bogeyman for the proletariat hatred to focus on, rather than question their own government and its motives. So tell me how someone who planned and executed the murder of over 3000 US residents isn't dangerous?
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| Re: Some group will hold master key - why not IANA ? You believe OBL "planned and executed" it do you? It was "his idea"?
Leaving aside the massive casualty figure (which even OBL has admitted, wasn't anticipated), at the end of the day this was a fairly unsophisticated attack that needed no hi tech, took advantage of pathetic domestic airline security, and was planned and executed by a small group of relatively wealthy middle class SAUDI nutcases, whom even in their own culture represent a cult fringe.
Even Aum Shinrikyo's attack in the Tokyo subway was more sophisticated (they managed to manufacture and deploy sarin). Yet somehow, the US administration continues to fool people into believing that there is some kind of sophisticated mass terror network waiting to strike any second, and it somehow justify's the spending of (so far) over TWO TRILLION DOLLARS of OUR MONEY.
Look past the casualty figure on that day, and examine what actually happened, and how it was executed. Any nutty group could have pulled it off. And you my friend, have been well and truly taken for a mug. Haliburton and their friends, on the other hand, are laughing all the way to the bank. | |
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| said by pnh102 :Dude, go look it up. Everything I've said is a verifiable fact. I don't believe you are intellectually capable of recognizing what is fact and what is not a fact (at least in this particular area). That's my calibration based on your previous statements; the appropriate action is to not even bother to argue with you since you are incapable of recognizing fact from fiction.
That's why I didn't bother to rebut your statement about gitmo, just pointed out that april fools day was yesterday. | |
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| Re: Some group will hold master key - why not IANA ? be careful, that's fox news you're linking to.
Unless it's leftist media outlets it's propaganda, so your links are crap
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| Re: Some group will hold master key - why not IANA ? said by scrummie02 :be careful, that's fox news you're linking to. Unless it's leftist media outlets it's propaganda, so your links are crap /sarcasm. Point... But I figured including a link to the Washington Compost would mitigate that.
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2 edits | Typical liberal here (nasadude). When presented with fact and common sense, claims the other person is not worth talking to or calls them a 1)war monger 2)racist 3)biggot...take your pick. When presented with a choice of America or the enemy, picks the enemy. When presented with a choice of calling wrong, wrong, will instead say there is no right. | |
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| Far from taking this in the "We can't trust the Americans" vein, let's focus on the opposite question. If control is not given to the IANA, who shall it be given to? What country does -not- engage in systematic security abuses?
So far we can rule out the following:
USA - by default
UK
Russia
China
France
Japan
The UN (as it is effectively controlled by the USA, Russia, and China, thus creating too much liability)
We can rule out all 3rd World countries - suspect by default, as 20th century history shows.
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| said by pnh102 :said by nasadude :until we emerge from the current "1984" period Again, what is the USA doing that is so 1984-esque? I've read the book numerous times. I don't see 2 way telescreens that cannot be turned off, or people who don't agree with the government being hauled to room 101, or subversive literature being banned, or food rationing, or historical revisionism... Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
Just as most mega-successful corporations and multi-nationals reach goals by some part corruption, so do governments. The US is just as much about how we've built ourselves up as it is how we've kept others down and beat back populist movements in all parts of the world, and the world is growing weary of it.
Democracy is now but a sideshow; an exercise in appearances to appease and placate more than anything else. It has little to do with real liberty or justice at this point, and everything to do with preserving a gilded age for the few. Your representative government is represented by con men (and not very good con men, either) who serve one business interest or another. The only way to realize their ultimate goal is like any totalitarian regime: central control of everything -- especially information.
Take a good look around you, and remember that it never appears to have happened overnight in hindsight. Never. All the signs were there but no one paid enough attention or cared enough or thought they could do anything about it anyway. Divide and conquer, the oldest in the book.
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| said by pnh102 :said by nasadude :until we emerge from the current "1984" period Again, what is the USA doing that is so 1984-esque? I've read the book numerous times. I don't see 2 way telescreens that cannot be turned off, or people who don't agree with the government being hauled to room 101, or subversive literature being banned, or food rationing, or historical revisionism... WHAT? Welcome to Guantanamo Bay, Cuba aka Room 101! Wait let's not forget Echelon (telescreens) and other devices that the NSA has at their disposal. If there was no similarity then you would not see so much comparisons going on between the book and current times. Heck, even DSLr tracks where you are logging in from, why do they need to do that? | |
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| Re: Some group will hold master key - why not IANA ? said by ossito16 :WHAT? Welcome to Guantanamo Bay, Cuba aka Room 101! Again... where is the proof of this rampant torture? Where are the people leaving being beaten up, or missing limbs or any other such things. Where is proof that all dissent is being quashed. There's practically an anti-war protest every weekend in DC. Surely if what you say is true these protesters would be shot down with live bullets.
said by ossito16 : Wait let's not forget Echelon (telescreens) and other devices that the NSA has at their disposal. Comparing Echelon to realtime in-home surveillance, which is what the telescreens did, is silly. Anyone who wants to can look at what you do online if they tried hard enough. That doesn't come close to having a telescreen in every room.
said by ossito16 : If there was no similarity then you would not see so much comparisons going on between the book and current times. That's just because no one reads the book. They simply repeat the ramblings of others.
said by ossito16 : Heck, even DSLr tracks where you are logging in from, why do they need to do that? Because they are part of the conspiracy. Bush is coming to get you. He's bringing Cheney and you know what he does with guns.
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| Re: Some group will hold master key - why not IANA ? Now I am sure you understand that whatever controls are placed on us will not be so obvious. By having a book like 1984 to compare to, it allows them to do many things as long as they do nothing exactly the way the book does people can say exactly what you are saying. Torture does not have to be a physical beating, nor does telescreens need to be so in your face. If you (and others) do not believe that things (our govt) our crazy and not as they appear then we are in trouble. | |
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| Re: Some group will hold master key - why not IANA ? said by Corehhi :historical revisionism that's happening for sure. I'll have to agree on that one. The way I hear the news these days, Saddam not only never had WMDs, but he innocent of all the charges for which he was executed.
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| said by pnh102 :I've read the book numerous times. I don't see 2 way telescreens that cannot be turned off, or people who don't agree with the government being hauled to room 101, or subversive literature being banned, or food rationing, or historical revisionism... ...Yet.
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| Re: Some group will hold master key - why not IANA ? said by kapil :said by TKJunkMail :Some new group under UN SECTY GENERAL control? No, but how about the ITU? Or is that not good enough for you because that would mean you'd cede some control to non anglo-saxons? Phones seem to work just fine.
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| Why are the internet terrorists afraid? If they have nothing to hide, they have nothing to worry about.
The USA invented the internet, so we should control it.
Opposing this measure just emboldens the terrorists.
Besides, DHS has shown itself to be an exemplary agency, staffed by only the most competent personnel, with no political objectives whatsoever, and with a superb sensitivity to other countries and cultures.
What is the problem?
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| Re: Why are the internet terrorists afraid? said by CrazyFingers :If they have nothing to hide, they have nothing to worry about. The USA invented the internet, so we should control it. Opposing this measure just emboldens the terrorists. Besides, DHS has shown itself to be an exemplary agency, staffed by only the most competent personnel, with no political objectives whatsoever, and with a superb sensitivity to other countries and cultures. What is the problem? Oh please!
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| Re: Why are the internet terrorists afraid? Stop emboldening!
The Decider has decided, and you all need to get on board and come together for the Big Win.
Everyone misunderestimates that 97% of all internets use is for smut, illegal downloadering, and getting nukular secrets, so the real question a patriotic God-fearing American should be asking all these emboldeners is this:
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1 edit | Okay government , here's master key to my domain The next thing that will happen is that the US government will want a master key to every domain name owned by Americans because of homeland security issues.
I don't agree with giving the US government access to anything because doing so will give the opportunity for misuse or abuse by hackers, crackers and Script kiddies.
The root servers should be protected by all government agencies, including the evil ones 
Don't trust the US government.
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| Wow! Rampant paranoia! What's up with this current round of paranoia? I am amused by some on this thread who trust the North Korea / China / Cuba / Venezuela types of governments out there more than their own. EU privacy and content controls are miles beyond ours.
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| . The DNS system is fine the way it is, their is no need to give Homeland security keys to anything, just like I would never hand over my keys to any stranger.
The next thing will be monitors that watch your toilet seat, and in order to stop those who abuse water restrictions will have to pay a fine and stick that turd exactly where it came from.
It has come to a point where authority are over stepping their boundaries, and the owner of those root DNS servers are the only ones who should have the key.
They never abused it nor did they ever come into any threat, so why now?
I actually think it will be now be a bigger threat since the government cannot even keep control of a government laptop which was stolen last year. So then how the hell would I trust them with a "master key".
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| Re: . said by Michieru2 :The DNS system is fine the way it is, their is no need to give Homeland security keys to anything, just like I would never hand over my keys to any stranger. I disagree, it is being highly abused by spammers, hackers and scammers.
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| ... I think things are fine the way they are. This is some sort of lame preventative measure they want to take to OMG THWART CYBAR TERRORISMS!!!! I guess it doesn't really bother me if IANA has the key and the U.S. can have access at will. Honestly, what are they really going to do? I don't think this whole thing is necessary, but I don't really see anything bad coming from it. The U.S. has an army and we don't go randomly invading other countries. | |
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clubs: | Why? Why would DHS want this? What the hell does a domain key even do? Practically speaking what sort of bad things could the US government do with this data? | |
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kapil
The Kapil
join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL
| It's time! While we can still count on some posters, who I'm convinced are paid RNC operatives, for blind support of the current state of affairs in this country and the effect of that around the world, it just gives me a warm tingly feeling to see that posts questioning the motives of our government and its actions have grown in number and boldness by leaps and bounds over the past couple of years.
It's time for America to start finding its way home because our ability to claim moral and intellectual superiority based on nothing but our past laurels has just about run out. | |
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kapil
The Kapil
join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL
| Let's make DHS a deal For every piece of evidence they can present to us proving that they have any semblance of common sense or competence, we can grant one of it's overreaching, grossly-unconstitutional wishes.
Want the "master key" to DNS root? Sure...as soon as you can tell Gatorade and C4 apart. | |
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kapil
The Kapil
join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL
| Poll How many of you posting random, useless, nationalistic and racist crap actually know a damn thing about DNS and how it works?
I can't stand assholes who let a holy book or a flag get in the way of knowledge because they are just that damn stupid. | |
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McDonuts
@nctv.com | Re: Poll Having been raised as a "Bible Thumper"™, struggling with it for years, and finally throwing it off completely just a couple years ago, I agree wholeheartedly. | |
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guitarzan
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join:2004-05-04
Skytop, PA
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| said by kapil :How many of you posting random, useless, nationalistic and racist crap actually know a damn thing about DNS and how it works? I can't stand assholes who let a holy book or a flag get in the way of knowledge because they are just that damn stupid. I don't let assholes who, through their own self "enlightenment" put down Religion or the Holy Bible, nor America and the American flag.
Either move to a communist country you idolize and adore, or better yet make sure you get your whole head in front of a shotgun before you pull the trigger. It's about time religious people take a stand and go jihadic on you atheist azzes.
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birdfeedr
Premium,MVM
join:2001-08-11
Warwick, RI | Re: Poll said by Guitarzan:
It's about time religious people take a stand and go jihadic on you atheist azzes. Are you serious? I missed the tags in your post. | |
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Anonywho
@cox.net | It's about time religious people take a stand and go jihadic on you atheist azzes. Wow, just, wow... Been hanging out with OBL much lately ? | |
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designwebs
join:2007-04-02
Franklin, OH | UN - Houthouse.... I would not let the U.N. guard my outhouse if I had one. Talk about a bunch of crooks...
Hey I know lets let the Iranians have it. They are developing a bomb I mean a nuclear reactor for power. | |
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| DraconSlayer
join:2004-03-03
Schiller Park, IL | Re: UN - Houthouse.... are they.... or do they want you to belive they are =Þ... | |
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| nozzer
join:2004-06-25
Waltham, MA
| No - The original *messaging protocols* were invented in the US at DARPA.
The Web protocol (HTTP) was invented/designed by a Brit (Tim Berners Lee) working for a European venture (CERN), and the political legislation to make "The Internet" happen (i.e laying the groundwork so we could all have connections to it) was crafted by, among others, Al Gore.
Without either of these (and a few other things) the "internet" as we know it today simply wouldn't exist. | |
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designwebs
join:2007-04-02
Franklin, OH | Al Gore You are right, he did create the internet. Now he is cleaning up the environment. What will he think of next? | |
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WileEC
mindtaker, macky cat, etc.
join:2002-02-07
Yonkers, NY
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| Paranoia rampant on BBR... news at 11 Just LoOOOOOOVEEEEEEE all the paranoid people here! So entertaining! I have read this entire thread, and some of you really could use an extended visit from men in white coats. The arguments against the US having a "master key" to DNS is weak and illogical at best. I would suspect that most of you who are so dead against it, first of all, don't know WTF you're talking about. Second, have, at some point in your past, been abducted by aliens who probed your butt. And finally it is most likely that those who speak out so feverishly about this in the manner which has been demonstrated in this thread have something to hide. Paranoia is sign of guilt or insanity and some of you have clearly demonstrated both qualities.
Here's a thought. If you don't like living here in the USA, then leave. Leave now. While the US is not perfect, it is now and will likely remain the most desirable place to live in the world (not counting private islands and the like). This will be even more apparent in the years to come when Europe changes into a Islamic state (yes, there's oh so much freedom to be found in Islamic countries, no worries at all there... unless you like free thinking!) Any person who chooses to believe there is paradise in hell holes such as Venezuela, Cuba, N.Korea, Iran and nations like them, should just pack their bags or shut it. Here's a handy tip for the stupid: any nation which has massive billboards and statues everywhere which depict the CURRENT POLITICAL OR RELIGIOUS LEADER IS NOT, I repeat, IS NOT a place you want to live. The day that happens in the USA is the day I will listen to the paranoid, tinfoil-hat club. | |
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antiphishing
Phishing Scam Terminator
Premium
join:2004-06-09
Wilkes Barre, PA
| Re: Paranoia rampant on BBR... news at 11 said by WileEC :Just LoOOOOOOVEEEEEEE all the paranoid people here! So entertaining! I have read this entire thread, and some of you really could use an extended visit from men in white coats. Okay! and you trust the United States Government.
The same government that allows illegal aliens to come into the country to take American jobs. The same government that recently admitted to monitoring American telephones, for no reason. It's the same huge pork barrel spending that our wonderful government does to fund the war in Iraq when it could be better used to fund higher education,feed the homeless, rebuild our infrastructure, build a huge wall between the the US and Mexico, help American born citizens to get good paying jobs, fix and better fund health care, help children with better education, stop the WalMart-zation of America, and prevent terrorism is this country.
Wow, I should run for President
Does that sound like I should see a person in a white coat?
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join:2004-07-19
Pittstown, NJ
| Re: Paranoia rampant on BBR... news at 11 Yes, yes it does. Your ideas are too intelligent and possibly useful to be anything more than the inane ramblings of an insane man.
Take him away boys!
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antiphishing
Phishing Scam Terminator
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Wilkes Barre, PA
| Re: Paranoia rampant on BBR... news at 11 said by MASantangelo :Yes, yes it does. Your ideas are too intelligent and possibly useful to be anything more than the inane ramblings of an insane man. Take him away boys! They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa!!
They're coming to take me away, ho-ho, hee-hee, ha-haaa
To the funny farm. Where life is beautiful all the time and I'll be happy to see those nice young men in their clean white coats and they're
coming to take me away, ha-haaa!!!!!
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| krayzie bone
join:2006-09-03
Marietta, GA
| you know what they say about how to boil a frog? You put a frog in a pan and close the lid. You then SLOWLY turn the heat up, as the frog will not notice the slow increase in heat versus a sudden heat change. That is what is happening today: The US government is SLOWLY, but SURELY, centralizing it's power and taking away our rights. Soon enough, we'll just be boiled frogs. And when that time comes, it will be too late. You may now return to watching Fox News. Thank you. | |
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joebarnhart
Paxio evangelist
join:2005-12-15
Santa Clara, CA | Is NSA inept? I'm confused.
Why is the government ASKING for the master key. I thought NSA was smart enough to get into anything. Was my faith in their technical prowess misplaced?
If they have to ASK, maybe they don't deserve the master key. | |
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bjl
Premium
join:2002-05-02
Newport Beach, CA
| Re: Is NSA inept? said by joebarnhart :If they have to ASK, maybe they don't deserve the master key. "Uh... Why do we need the master key? Well... uh... Well we figured out what it is, and want to verify our results. Yeah! That's it! Now, give us the key." | |
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| russotto
join:2000-10-05
Collegeville, PA
| Left hand of government probably doesn't know what the right hand is doing. If the NSA wants the key (and I'd bet they do), they'd get it. Perhaps even something simple like someone with access to it gives it to them.
But that wouldn't make the key available to the FBI and the rest; the NSA is part of the DoD, not the DHS. | |
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kenyg
join:2001-02-09
Hatboro, PA
| re: master key I am like - so what. If they want the "master key list" so what. What does that mean to me in a world where people are cracking major retailers sales records and stealing millions of credit card numbers. You are all in a huff over a bunch of nonsense. Grow up and grow pair.
Some of the comments here would have me thinking that the US is the cause of most of the problems in the world.
I think you are blinded by your hate.
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RideRed
Vista needs a popup blocker for Vista
Premium
join:2005-06-18
USA
2 edits | Yer panties in a wad over a request I can make the request too. So F-ing what.
It's the response that matters.
No point in getting all excited just yet unless you are just generally an anti-Bush / anti-America guy in which case you would rant anyway. The DHS may just be told to take a leap and a rolling donut in which case all the boo hooing is over nothing and you'd have to find something else to bash America about.
If they don't, then let the panties start twisting and give it to the ITU.
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Some group will hold master key - why not IANA ?
