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Comments on news posted 2007-04-02 09:07:44: Rumors began circulating last year that EMI, one of the smallest of the major record labels, would be dropping DRM from their music catalog. In February, reports emerged that said EMI had walked away from such discussions with online retailers. ..

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PhoenixDown
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A good start

Any list of what groups are currently being offered DRM free?


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 Am I dreaming?

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"By providing DRM-free downloads, we aim to address the lack of interoperability which is frustrating for many music fans. We believe that offering consumers the opportunity to buy higher quality tracks and listen to them on the device or platform of their choice will boost sales of digital music."
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Someone pinch me, I gotta be dreaming, someone finally got a clue!


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 DRM free music; will people pay or will they still pirate?

Well, the 1st step in what everyone has proclaimed as a necessary part of paying for music has been taken. There will be legal DRM free music from a major music provider. Now, the question is - will people pay for the music or will they find other reasons to keep pirating it?

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BF69

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Re: A good start

Yep. Though $1.29 is a bit pricy, no DRM and better sound is probably worth an extra 30 cents. They should drop the price of the DRMed songs. EMI should also do this with other places like Napster, Yahoo Music, Urge and Rhapsody.

Once more companies find that people are willing to pay a bit extra for DRMless songs you'll see how fast the others drop it. Less face it, the people that are willing to buy music in the first place are probably the LEAST likely to pirate the stuff.


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Re: DRM free music; will people pay or will they still pirate?

When a taboo has become accepted in mainstream society, its hard to make it a taboo again.
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As a music lover, I like the idea of DRM free music. They have some good artists such as Marvin Gaye, Nirvana, Sting (older stuff), Foo Fighters and the Yardbirds. I already have those albums, but the idea of being able to put them on my iPod, CD and play them on my work and home PC without having to crack the DRM is good.

Unfortunately I think the people that pirate are still going to pirate. People have a sense of entitlement and feel everything should be free.
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quetwo
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April Fools?

Hrmm... Maybe?


BF69

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Re: DRM free music; will people pay or will they still pirate?

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

Well, the 1st step in what everyone has proclaimed as a necessary part of paying for music has been taken. There will be legal DRM free music from a major music provider. Now, the question is - will people pay for the music or will they find other reasons to keep pirating it?

You know what I think!!
People NOW pay for music that is of lower quality and is full of DRM. The pricing structure needs to change instead of this one price fits all mentality. That'll help. I have a subscription to Yahoo Music because I've never been a big music owner and I can buy songs for 79 cents, there's alot of older songs I like to listen too so I do on my subscription and I might actually own them outright, but not for 79 cents. A song from the 60's, 70's or 80's should not cost as much as a new song. Go to wal-mart, new DVD $15-$20. Older movies from the 80's $5. I do see where exception can be made of popular older artists where demand is such you could charge full price, but seriously some song I happen to like from 1983 that never made higher than #25 on the charts is 99 cents? I'm sure that guy or band that wrote that song rather have a small % of 49 cents than 0% of 99 cents.

Some people will always pirate even if you offer the songs for a nickel, because some people are jerks.

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Yes, the same core groups will be out there, with their loyal followings. But if you could get a Yahoo Unlimited account that provided high quality DRM-free downloads, it would actually be MORE work to pirate. Appealing to peoples general feeling of laziness is an easy sell. Plus a flat rate ~$10/mo is easy to justify.


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Re: A good start

How could this work at Napster, etc.? They require DRM to make sure you pay each month. Otherwise I could sign up for one month, download every single song on there and then cancel my subscription and without DRM I would get to keep all those songs.
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They could adopt eMusic's model. You get to download a
limited number of tracks per month for a flat rate fee.


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The key I guess would be the # of tracks... That model favors someone who downloads songs very frequently (someone who likes to download the newest albums) rather than someone who likes a few particular bands or songs of a genre. Not saying I don't like a lot of modern bands, but I probably don't download enough songs consistently to save money via that approach.
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Re: April Fools?

Yep, because everyone knows April 2nd is the real April Fools Day and not April 1st...


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 What quality?

Unless I missed it in the article, I can't find what quality they are increasing to? Higher bitrate? Or is the iTunes codec less quality than MP3 at same bitrate?
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Johnny
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256 AAC and also WMA and mp3.

Nobody will choose WMA, now that AAC is DRM-free. 100 million iPods means everyone will go AAC to get that market.

WMA is dead. Halle-freaking-lujah.


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reply to TKJunkMail
Re: DRM free music; will people pay or will they still pirate?

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

will people pay for the music or will they find other reasons to keep pirating it?
yep.

At least the paying consumer gets a break here.


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Re: A good start

said by Count Zero See Profile :

How could this work at Napster, etc.? They require DRM to make sure you pay each month. Otherwise I could sign up for one month, download every single song on there and then cancel my subscription and without DRM I would get to keep all those songs.
The press release stated that DRM would still be enforced for subscription based services that are designed to cut off access when you cancel your account.

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I doubt that anyone would agree that less than eight songs a month would be "very frequently". That's what you'd get from iTunes for what eMusic charges for considerably more.
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BF69

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said by Count Zero See Profile :

How could this work at Napster, etc.? They require DRM to make sure you pay each month. Otherwise I could sign up for one month, download every single song on there and then cancel my subscription and without DRM I would get to keep all those songs.
I'm not talking about subscriptions. Napster does sell songs too.


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Re: What quality?

So if I'm not a iPod owner, I can get a 256Kbps MP3, OK

What was the previous bitrate? Sorry if the question is dumb, but I've never tried iTunes, since I don't have an iPod.
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