ptrowski
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Now let's get the last problem solved and give a mighty middle finger to Verizon... |
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qworster
join:2001-11-25
Los Angeles, CA | Prior art?
Verizon filed for these patents in 1997. Jeff Pulver was doing VOIP LONG before that, and he was one of the founders of Vonage. Seems to me that prior art might apply here. |
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AJICQ499087
join:2001-12-01
Louisville, KY
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Re: Good....
$58 million in damages, and a 5.5% royalty rate on each Vonage customer...where is Vonage going to get the $ 
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MxxCon
join:1999-11-19
Brooklyn, NY
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| is it really good on 2 patents?
"Vonage has signed an agreement with a VoIP network services provider to carry calls placed by Vonage customers" so wouldn't verizon now go after that other voip provider?
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aztecnology
O Rly?
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join:2003-02-12
Murrieta, CA
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| said by MxxCon  :"Vonage has signed an agreement with a VoIP network services provider to carry calls placed by Vonage customers" so wouldn't verizon now go after that other voip provider? Not if they are not violating patents...
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mindfrost82
join:2003-04-19
Cortland, IL
| Royalty rate only if they continue using the technology?
Isn't the 5.5% royalty rate only if they continued to use their same technology? If they switch their technology then they won't have to pay the royalty rate right?
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TKJunkMail
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Avalon, NJ
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| reply to ptrowski
Re: Good....
said by ptrowski :Now let's get the last problem solved and give a mighty middle finger to Verizon... Even if Vonage finds a way around the last patent, they still come out losers. Their deal to use another VOIP provider will cost them a lot of money. Their customers are going to be paying more for service no matter what happens in the future hearings. I'd say Verizon has already won, no matter what happens from now on.
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ppp
@faa.gov | Who's the new provider...
Sunrocket ??? !
lol |
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brooklynman4
join:2004-09-07
Brooklyn, NY | reply to mindfrost82
Re: Royalty rate only if they continue using the technology?
I picture vonage buying that company out in the future. |
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Loker
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join:2004-07-11
Fargo, ND
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Re: is it really good on 2 patents?
said by aztecnology :said by MxxCon :"Vonage has signed an agreement with a VoIP network services provider to carry calls placed by Vonage customers" so wouldn't verizon now go after that other voip provider? Not if they are not violating patents... LOL like that matters...
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AJICQ499087
join:2001-12-01
Louisville, KY
| reply to brooklynman4
Re: Royalty rate only if they continue using the technology?
I picture Vonage going out of business within 2 years as they run out of money and get wiped out by new competition such as magicJack. »www.magicjack.com/
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AnonProxy
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join:2001-05-12
ß | Well hopefully this works
Because if not, they would prolly leave a lot of customers high and dry. |
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dodgetech2
join:2002-01-01
Gouldsboro, PA
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| reply to TKJunkMail
Re: Good....
said by TKJunkMail :said by ptrowski :Now let's get the last problem solved and give a mighty middle finger to Verizon... Even if Vonage finds a way around the last patent, they still come out losers. Their deal to use another VOIP provider will cost them a lot of money. Their customers are going to be paying more for service no matter what happens in the future hearings. I'd say Verizon has already won, no matter what happens from now on. I don't think they have won at all..All they have succeeded in doing is insuring if Vonage were to go away, those current Vonage customers will never go back to Verizon, just as a mater of principle........I see it as a lose lose for Verizon......
Also, I have it on pretty good authority, that Vonage will be making an announcement on Friday...
Rest assured Vonage customers...we are going to be fine.
On top of that, even if the Vonage bill were to go up $5.00 a month..Its still WAY cheaper than Verizon... |
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Yippz Voip
join:2005-05-04
Atlanta, GA
| reply to AJICQ499087
Re: Royalty rate only if they continue using the technology?
said by AJICQ499087 :I picture Vonage going out of business within 2 years as they run out of money and get wiped out by new competition such as magicJack. » www.magicjack.com/ Uh huh... A unit that needs a computer to function will "wipe out" a technology that needs NO computer to operate whatsoever.
Yeah. Not quite... |
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Camelot One
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join:2001-11-21
Sarasota, FL
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| reply to AJICQ499087
Re: Good....
said by AJICQ499087 :$58 million in damages, and a 5.5% royalty rate on each Vonage customer...where is Vonage going to get the $ $58 million, thats what, their weekly advertising budget? I hate Verizon, but I'm so sick of that "Woohoohoo" song, I could use a week without it.
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sporkme
drop the crantini and move it, sister
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join:2000-07-01
Morristown, NJ
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| reply to aztecnology
Re: is it really good on 2 patents?
said by aztecnology :said by MxxCon :"Vonage has signed an agreement with a VoIP network services provider to carry calls placed by Vonage customers" so wouldn't verizon now go after that other voip provider? Not if they are not violating patents... Everyone doing voip is violating these patents. The case with verizon did not address whether or not the patents were valid,
Now verizon needs to sue someone bigger so that the whole mess can be overturned. |
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DaBavarian
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join:2006-02-22
Saginaw, MI
| reply to AJICQ499087
Re: Good....
Yeah, this company, Vonage, never posts a profit...(however the execs on their board seem to be doing fine)... and Vonage has little in regards to assets not even having their own network that they operate on. How can you keep paying for legal fees, a huge advertising budget, and regular business expenses and NEVER make a profit but STILL keep your doors open???
Only in America. I love it. |
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dodgetech2
join:2002-01-01
Gouldsboro, PA
·ProLog
·Vonage
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Re: Royalty rate only if they continue using the technology?
said by AJICQ499087 :I picture Vonage going out of business within 2 years as they run out of money and get wiped out by new competition such as magicJack. » www.magicjack.com/ Yeah..Ok......Ill stick with my Vonage thats been working fine for 2.5 years over something that quite possibly will NEVER even become available.....
or wont work without a PC.....Vaporware anyone?
The only thing we know about "majicjack" is he can build a website......My 13 Year old daughter can do that. |
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cdru
Go Colts
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join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
| reply to AJICQ499087
Re: Good....
said by AJICQ499087 :$58 million in damages, and a 5.5% royalty rate on each Vonage customer...where is Vonage going to get the $ What royalty rate? The $58 was for past infringement. The 5.5% was for future royalty payments if Vonage continued use. The deal with VoIP Inc would negate 2/3 of the reason for that 5.5% of royalty in the event appeals did not reverse the original jury verdict.
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JammerMan79
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join:2004-05-13
Prince George, BC | Which 2 of 3?
which 2 of 3 patents do they have a workaround for? |
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