ninjatutle
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join:2006-01-02
San Ramon, CA | -
I hope its not coming, I just bought a sling box  |
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Maxo
Your tax dollars at work.
Premium,VIP
join:2002-11-04
Tallahassee, FL
clubs: | What about Video?
Once video hits, is the available bandwidth going to be enough? |
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JamesPC
join:2005-10-12
Orange, CA
| Broadband
Yes it will, still a lot of dark fiber. The major ISP's have planned for this and will act accordingly. Not to mention the new types of fiber coming out now(FAST SHIT, dont make me get a link). The report on fiber was on BBR a couple weeks ago. The only real broadband problem in this country, is the last mile (from the CO to your house). Once that is all fixed, the rest will fall in line. |
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brianiscool
join:2000-08-16
Miami, FL |  Great solution
At least this is forcing the United States and ISP's to upgrade our bandwidth in a quicker rate. If people were not really into video content on the web I bet we would still be on 1Mb download lines. |
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antiphishing
Phishing Scam Terminator
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join:2004-06-09
Wilkes Barre, PA
1 edit | The Bandwidth Apocalypse 'Now' Is Not Coming
Cyber-Space Apocalypse 'Now' |
The horror... the horror...
Specializing in "takes downs" of phishing and advance fee scams
Send your Phishing/Advance fee scams to: phish@antihotmail.com
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Jamuka
join:2005-06-06 | Now that is the best reply I've seen yet! |
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CLEVELTECH
join:2006-12-21
02107
| CRUNCH DATA
Eventually all ISPs are going to come to a crunch or limit. That's to be expected. The issue id what technologies are going to be implemented to control the number of users on a network and and to balance the network for everyone to use without it being degraded. |
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loled
@bell.ca | reply to antiphishing
Re: The Bandwidth Apocalypse 'Now' Is Not Coming
hahaha |
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N3OGH
Bear patrol must be working like a charm
Premium
join:2003-11-11
Philly burbs | reply to antiphishing
Best...post....EVER..... |
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JamesPC
join:2005-10-12
Orange, CA | reply to Jamuka
Everyone wants to hear nonsense. Cant think about reality when you stuck in fantasy. |
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hcvst
@co.za | reply to CLEVELTECH
Re: CRUNCH DATA
Why is that (to be) expected - what is the limit? |
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cableties
Premium
join:2005-01-27 | Just add more
tubes! |
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bamabrad
join:2006-01-27
Port Orange, FL
| Just an opinion (undocumented)
There is plenty of bandwidth- the mega corps just want to max profits on as little as possible. They want as few customers as possible with high dollar services. If they went after the masses (Light up all the fiber) with low dollar services and entice them to upgrade over time, every one would win! |
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calvoiper
join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA
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Re: Broadband
Agreed. The Cringely article linked to in the main item clearly indicates he's talking about last-mile, local ISP issues, not backbone. The main article link, to "CIO Insight", deals primarily with corporate users.
While I agree with much of the "CIO Insight" which trashes the Deloitte (out-of-)Touche Tohmatsu white paper, I can't agree with their approach that "prioritizing traffic" will be the easy answer for all latency and jitter problems in the residential arena. Additionally, were I to seek out an expert on ISP capacity issues, I'm not sure I'd use one from Earthlink as representative of the entire sector.
Is "CIO Insight"'s support for "prioritization" of traffic just another shot against Net Neutrality?
calvoiper
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VoIP--the death knell of remaining voice monopolies! |
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gh4456
Premium,VIP
join:2004-04-07
Beverly Hills, CA
1 edit | reply to Maxo
Re: What about Video?
I think the limitations of fiber is the routers/switches they connect too. Hell, just on BBR a week ago, there was the ability to multiplex 160 channels (colors) on a single strand of fiber and download 26tb/s!!!! - Think of what can be done to turn existing facilities into HUGE PIPES. |
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JamesPC
join:2005-10-12
Orange, CA
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Re: Just an opinion (undocumented)
The reality is, you can build this kind of network with low paying services. Just not going to happen in a, first of all the ISPs offer more than they can actually deliver consistantly. The rates they sell (marketing)you on are the best possible, while still trying to be fair to other customers (your neighbors). With that said, "I think we will never have a problem with the bandwidth available in the GREAT USA, but instead have problems with PRICE." We need "COMPETITION" (like I have said MANY times before), some good kick ass competition. That will be the issue, for example, say Time Warner decides to limit use (cap). There needs to be another ISP that can have there "own network" that competes with the incumbents. Having your own network is key to competing with the cable co's and Telco. On a personal note, I would like to see some of the backbone operators (like level3) get into the residential ISP business. Even tho I dont blame them for staying FAR away. |
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JamesPC
join:2005-10-12
Orange, CA | BIG TYPO
CANT* |
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hcvst
@co.za
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Re: CRUNCH DATA
I am sitting on my balcony in Johannesburg, South Africa, enjoying a beer, looking forward to a long weekend and using for the first time since I moved down here for a project in June 2006 internet from home. I bought some 3G network card today and went fairly straight to dslreports. The home page took ages to load. I cannot be asked to try and run the speed reports. Bandwidth is fairly costly too (good point, let me disconnect).
Yet the lack of speed made me read the news entry on the front page while I waited for the navigation to load. Bandwidth apocalypse sounded catchy. So I click and wait and read on and understand nothing. What are they talking about? I study the headline, follow a few painfully slow links and still understand nothing.
What is the context of this debate? Is there a technical|logical|temporary|potential|... limit to bandwidth? What is the political aspect?
If anyone can be bothered to answer these questions briefly I would really like to read it.
hc@bandweite.de (a bit more spam won't hurt)
Thanks. (Now let me reconnect... and copy this to the clipboard first M^A M^C) |
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JamesPC
join:2005-10-12
Orange, CA | reply to calvoiper
Re: Broadband
The funny thing is....I did not even read the article until after I wrote my statement. Looks like we think alike. |
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tmc8080
join:2004-04-24
Floral Park, NY
| lost concept
Is it a lost concept that it is not a bandwidth crunch, but a cost problem.. ie the bandwidth people are demanding cost too much to make a clear 5-10x monthly fee on the price charged versus what isps pay for the bandwidth each month (a closely guarded secret) ?
Once you get up in the 10+megabits down, 5+ megabits up, we're talking about hundreds of gigabytes per month per subscriber, so can that be delivered for $29.95-59.95 (unlimited, all you can eat)? Well, the best the incumbents can come up with is calling the apocalypse a bandwidth crunch... more a cost crunch because lack of competition and investment in tier-1 - tier-3 providers. |
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