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Comments on news posted 2007-04-11 10:07:21: The SafeMedia website proclaims the company has developed "impregnable" core technologies which eradicate illegal P2P copyrighted content transmissions on networks and between subnets. ..

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TKJunkMail
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 EFFs position: Thieves will win so give up

Looks like the EFF's position on this and similar products is that the thieves(or sharers in EFFspeak) will eventually find a way around the product, so they shouldn't be used at all. Of course, they don't have any solution to how the copyright holders get paid for their work, but they have little interest in that.
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DrModem
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lol

I wonder if it's as clumsy as Clouseau?


GlennAllen

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A shot in the dark?

Well, it's good to see that they have a sense of humour about it.

Hmmm... wasn't 'Clouseau' copyright'd by Blake Edwards? Are they in-fringe-ing?


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Great name...

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Re: EFFs position: Thieves will win so give up

Oddly, the EFF post doesn't say that at all.

When I read it, it sounds more like an exposure of marketing hype which can't possibly be true than any commentary on file trading. Their illustration of how easy it is go get around "Clouseau" just shows how silly the product is, and how outrageous Safemedia's marketing claims are.

As for getting copyright holders paid, at least the EFF mentions it. Safemedia is only interested in getting themselves paid, and from public funds at that. The specs on this product indicate no interest in anything else.
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said by RadioDoc See Profile :

Safemedia is only interested in getting themselves paid, and from public funds at that. The specs on this product indicate no interest in anything else.
The nerve of them! Selling a product to get paid. What is this world coming to?
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The nerve of them! Selling a product to get paid. What is this world coming to?
Apparently to a point where lying is acceptable?

I believe TCH mischaracterizes the EFF's position. Their real position is to outlaw puppies.


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"Clouseau: Does your monkey bite?"


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Re: EFFs position: Thieves will win so give up

Actually, more along the lines of misrepresenting their product in order to get paid. THAT is what's wrong.
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said by Cabal See Profile :

said by RadioDoc See Profile :

Safemedia is only interested in getting themselves paid, and from public funds at that. The specs on this product indicate no interest in anything else.
The nerve of them! Selling a product to get paid. What is this world coming to?
Being a business owner and landlord, I am certainly not against anyone getting paid. What I am against is fly-by-night shysters kiting irrational and flat-out false product claims in an effort to get paid.

There's a difference even if you don't see one. Nice try.
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frost203

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Pointless???

I don't see the point. It's copyright holders that should be footing the bill to "protect" there content. for Clouseau to work it would have to be adapted at the ISP level and more to the point at hub level to prevent user at individual hubs from sharing amongst themselves..And how many ISPs are going to spend more money than they have to.

I can see that maybe large corps or universities might want to use it to prevent high bandwidth consumption due to p2ps but thats it. "Copyright holders can finally make the Internet available as a safe, viable distribution channel for all content industries" bunch of BS to me.


Jehu
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Hmm

Browsing through the "safemedia" website, it reads like hoax.

I think in a few days we'll find this was set up by some 16 year old.
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patcat88

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steganograph

Wait until P2P moves from encryption to steganograph. Then the collateral damage will make impossible for anyone to view anything except text HTML in english. The only real way to stop P2P is using a whitelist of IPs and protocols, and disallow all encryption to permit inspection. The collateral damage will be huge, and those "internet" connections nobody except conservative christians who miss their dial up connections will buy.

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Re: Possible product tag:

You said "minkey"???

(ROTFL...)


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Re: EFFs position: Thieves will win so give up

TCH you're so predictable, i don't think i seen you not reply to any topic that had to do with pirating or critizing riaa or any other organization. Do you work for one of those organizations ,do you get paid to post here?
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